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Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
April 21 2012 20:05 GMT
#4201
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.
bgrN.
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden66 Posts
April 21 2012 20:08 GMT
#4202
On April 22 2012 05:05 Seldentar wrote:
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.


How can you not understand why he did it? They even explained on stream.

This is way WAY different from the Nestea "incident", this is showing that Naniwa has brains and takes the competition very serious and aims to win.

He´s hiding his builds, since he knows he´ll win vs the other weaker players in the group and get to bracketplay anyways. This way he´ll have even a better chance to win .

Can´t believe people don´t understand that.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
April 21 2012 20:08 GMT
#4203
Actually the goal for him is to win the whole thing, so if he thinks he has better chance of winning it by not showing his strat in an almost winningless series it is okay for me.
When Idra forfeited all his matches at IPL 3 everyone was like :" Oh this guy is such a genius, he prefers rest and not show his strat than playing bad games because of jet lag" but when it is Naniwa ...
It's good to be back
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 20:11:35
April 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#4204
On April 22 2012 05:05 Seldentar wrote:
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.


Somehow i feel like it has to do with him not wanting show his best play due to Code-S ro8. But that's just my feeling.

NaNiwa never plays that a sloppy (apart from his probe rush). Those games felt like masked probe rushes. He played out those games instead of making the same mistake again.

Eventually though he will need to play better if he goes further in the tournament. But i believe he feels like it's unnecessary to show his best until later because other players in ro8 will study his play.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
April 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#4205
On April 22 2012 05:10 Waterflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:05 Seldentar wrote:
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.


Somehow i feel like it hads to do with him not wanting show his best play due to Code-S ro8. But that's just my feeling.

NaNiwa never plays that a sloppy (apart from his probe rush). Those games felt like masked probe rushes. He played out those games instead of making the same mistake again.

Eventually though he will need to play better if he goes further in the tournament. But i believe he feels like it's unnecessary to show his best until later because other players in ro8 will study his play.

There is no point if doing it because of GSL since there is no more Zerg but it is more for dreamhack tourney, he really wants to win an event in Sweden.
It's good to be back
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
April 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#4206
On April 22 2012 05:12 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:10 Waterflow wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:05 Seldentar wrote:
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.


Somehow i feel like it hads to do with him not wanting show his best play due to Code-S ro8. But that's just my feeling.

NaNiwa never plays that a sloppy (apart from his probe rush). Those games felt like masked probe rushes. He played out those games instead of making the same mistake again.

Eventually though he will need to play better if he goes further in the tournament. But i believe he feels like it's unnecessary to show his best until later because other players in ro8 will study his play.

There is no point if doing it because of GSL since there is no more Zerg but it is more for dreamhack tourney, he really wants to win an event in Sweden.


oh lol.... my bad yeah your probably right.
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
April 21 2012 20:18 GMT
#4207
On April 22 2012 05:08 bgrN. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:05 Seldentar wrote:
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.


How can you not understand why he did it? They even explained on stream.

This is way WAY different from the Nestea "incident", this is showing that Naniwa has brains and takes the competition very serious and aims to win.

He´s hiding his builds, since he knows he´ll win vs the other weaker players in the group and get to bracketplay anyways. This way he´ll have even a better chance to win .

Can´t believe people don´t understand that.


I didn't say I don't understand why, I said I cannot explain why. There's a difference T.T

Every time I say Nani is hiding builds some troll comes out and says something along the lines of "lolol you just can't admit Nani is bad - hiding builds is BS nobody does that"
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 20:31:46
April 21 2012 20:29 GMT
#4208
I dont understand why people are hating on NaNiwa for hiding his killing blow builds in a groupstage where its 110% sure he will advance anyway. He had already beaten one opponent 2-0 without any problem, and this guy went on to beat the last guy 2-0... so he will smash face in the last game and get thru the group stage.

Now he has hidden his true potential for future games that might actually matter, perhaps he might even be able to win this tournament without showing anything too special, just to keep MVP from figuring him out before their Code S ro8 match which imho is 100 times more important.

Even professional fotball teams save their best strategies and try to save their best players untill the playoffs. Its not every game u see zlatan sweating when he play, but when he is up against a team that he knows will give him a hard time... he plays for his life.

NaNiwa going strong, next Code S champ, from what i've seen so far from nani in GSL i can say he has potential to even beat MKP.

edit: also, ofc it still matters for code S even there are no zergs left, any slight sign of good play, blink stalker micro, multitasking, weaknesses... or anything. Can be used by future code S opponents.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
April 21 2012 20:30 GMT
#4209
On April 22 2012 05:08 bgrN. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:05 Seldentar wrote:
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.


How can you not understand why he did it? They even explained on stream.

This is way WAY different from the Nestea "incident", this is showing that Naniwa has brains and takes the competition very serious and aims to win.

He´s hiding his builds, since he knows he´ll win vs the other weaker players in the group and get to bracketplay anyways. This way he´ll have even a better chance to win .

Can´t believe people don´t understand that.


God. Please fucking chill. : )
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
Mindor
Profile Joined December 2011
169 Posts
April 21 2012 20:30 GMT
#4210
On April 22 2012 05:18 Seldentar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:08 bgrN. wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:05 Seldentar wrote:
I'm 90% sure Nani wasn't trying vs Hyun, though I cannot explain why.

In both games I couldn't stop thinking about Naniwa saying he wished he had just 4 gated Nestea instead of probe rushing because then nobody would've cared.


How can you not understand why he did it? They even explained on stream.

This is way WAY different from the Nestea "incident", this is showing that Naniwa has brains and takes the competition very serious and aims to win.

He´s hiding his builds, since he knows he´ll win vs the other weaker players in the group and get to bracketplay anyways. This way he´ll have even a better chance to win .

Can´t believe people don´t understand that.


I didn't say I don't understand why, I said I cannot explain why. There's a difference T.T

Every time I say Nani is hiding builds some troll comes out and says something along the lines of "lolol you just can't admit Nani is bad - hiding builds is BS nobody does that"


Well, I don't think he's vZ is very much in shape due to the lack of Zs in GSL, so it makes a whole lot of sense not showing the builds that he whipped up in 0.5 days. And he didn't proberush, so there's that. :D
Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
April 21 2012 20:49 GMT
#4211
I dunno how I am now in this fanclub yet.. sign me up!
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
April 21 2012 21:53 GMT
#4212
Brutal group for Naniwa tomorrow with Genius, Nerchio and slivko, I have faith though.
DennizR
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden653 Posts
April 21 2012 22:01 GMT
#4213
On April 22 2012 06:53 ladyumbra wrote:
Brutal group for Naniwa tomorrow with Genius, Nerchio and slivko, I have faith though.


Why is it brutal? I'd say Naniwa is favored vs all of them. Of course it COULD be easier but...
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
April 21 2012 22:04 GMT
#4214
On April 22 2012 07:01 DennizR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 06:53 ladyumbra wrote:
Brutal group for Naniwa tomorrow with Genius, Nerchio and slivko, I have faith though.


Why is it brutal? I'd say Naniwa is favored vs all of them. Of course it COULD be easier but...


He just won vs Genius. Slivko shouldnt be a problem and Nerchio lost to SaSe. Ofc it could go either way, but i think Nani could go 3-0.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
April 22 2012 01:28 GMT
#4215
On April 22 2012 06:53 ladyumbra wrote:
Brutal group for Naniwa tomorrow with Genius, Nerchio and slivko, I have faith though.


NaNi 3-0 easy.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
April 22 2012 01:45 GMT
#4216
On April 22 2012 06:53 ladyumbra wrote:
Brutal group for Naniwa tomorrow with Genius, Nerchio and slivko, I have faith though.

3 - 0 6 - 0 EZPZ
"!@€#" - as some guy said
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
April 22 2012 02:00 GMT
#4217
On April 22 2012 07:04 Morale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 07:01 DennizR wrote:
On April 22 2012 06:53 ladyumbra wrote:
Brutal group for Naniwa tomorrow with Genius, Nerchio and slivko, I have faith though.


Why is it brutal? I'd say Naniwa is favored vs all of them. Of course it COULD be easier but...


He just won vs Genius. Slivko shouldnt be a problem and Nerchio lost to SaSe. Ofc it could go either way, but i think Nani could go 3-0.


Hey now I totally believe he can ace the group I just think it's really not what he would have wanted and harder than some of the other groups he could have been in. Then again Nani does seem to love a challenge.
Keidy
Profile Joined June 2009
253 Posts
April 22 2012 08:08 GMT
#4218
I feeling a fail comming here, i simply dont trust his PvZ that much atm

Hope he proves me wrong, no one would be more happy if he did but i fear the worst
bgrN.
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden66 Posts
April 22 2012 09:06 GMT
#4219
The bad games he had vs hyun makes even more sense now, he´d end up in the same group as SaSe if he won them.

Really can´t blame him for it !
ThorZainWeTrust
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden205 Posts
April 22 2012 09:11 GMT
#4220
Bra jobbat mot Genius!!! Kämpa på King of the north!
ALL HAIL NANIWA - KING OF STARCRAFT 2! SLAYER OF KINGS AND DRAGONS...DESTROYER OF GODS AND CHAMPION OF FOREIGNERS!!!!! KING OF THE NORTH...WE SALUTE YOU!!!!!
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