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Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
October 04 2012 14:44 GMT
#3221
Did anyone else ever notice that the second there is any drama involving anyone in the community a ton of people seem to appear from nowhere specifically to scream personal insults and stuff?

It's strange. People are too angry.

Ain't no thang though. Gogo Nony <3
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
October 04 2012 14:55 GMT
#3222
yeah, so true. alot of people with nothing better to do than hate on others.. sad to see.

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Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 15:02:43
October 04 2012 14:59 GMT
#3223
On October 04 2012 12:31 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 12:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I hope every word you're saying is a parody of someone else, or that a 16 year old girl who just got dumped is hacking your account. We don't need more drama at this point in time.

theres nothing fucked up about my message. if you cant keep a clear mind when reading a message without letting its manner of communication fuck you up then that's your fault. i've written enough graduate level english in the sc community to know that there's no point to it. the assholes that require it to pay you any attention arent worth it. i've got legitimate reasons to be upset about both the gsl and diamond.



From reading this forum for awhile I can say what sets it apart and makes it special is the level of maturity that's expected here. Now, like every other place on the internet there's a lot of unintelligent post etc etc.
But Im under the impression that TL.net aspires to be a community above the norm. Your own video on the Carrier is one of thousands examples of quality posts on this site.
And now your calling those in the community who prefers good manner and ok language assholes? Some community representative you are... (maybe im drawing this abit far, but still)

Also, GSL's main tournament is the nr 1 tournament in the world, where coincidently your teammate has just made the semifinals. Telling your fans, TL fans, to boycott a GSL tournament seems pretty far out.

That TL and their sponsors pay you, and then you come off with this kind of behavouir and publicity is pretty damn unproffesional.

I hope the reason for this outburst is that you got angry and then decided to have a few drinks. Because this is kinda below what i thought was expected of Liquid players/employees/staff.


EDIT: I just saw the mod warning on the other page. I'll let the post stand, as i see it as OT as to what Nony himself responded to and wrote.
Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
October 04 2012 15:05 GMT
#3224
On October 04 2012 23:42 Barrin wrote:
Chill out people. This is a fan club thread - keep it on topic. Warnings/etc are coming.

(1) Apologies for Ragoo's words Nony, he gets a little jumpy sometimes - from the mapmaking community.
(2) Ragoo is already a proven mapmaker and his intention is not attention-whoring or sucking up to anyone.

Take this back to twitter.


The map-making community is entirely irrelevant to the discussion as it is about what Nony said to Diamond, not what Nony said to the map-making community.
I don't understand why he felt he needed to bring this up or why anyone from the map team is saying anything at all.
Savant
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
October 04 2012 15:08 GMT
#3225
Well this was just horribly depressing to read, from every person involved.
We know nothing.
Perchloric
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil163 Posts
October 04 2012 15:26 GMT
#3226
I find very intriguing how some posts were spared of warnings/bans in a fanclub thread.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 04 2012 16:05 GMT
#3227
insane that people from the mapmaking community defend diamond's right to give me shit for not fully explaining a situation to him that doesn't concern him at all on twitter. if you're gonna say anything at all, it should be a promise to put a leash on that bitch
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Diffe
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 16:30:37
October 04 2012 16:29 GMT
#3228
But if this situation doesn't concern Diamond and others at all, why did you even tweet it? ._.
If you think this is your personal private business, and he has nothing to do with it, then posting about it on Twitter wasn't the best idea in the first place?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 04 2012 16:32 GMT
#3229
you seem to be making a big deal out of something that is quite irrelevent nony, u need to pipe down
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 04 2012 16:41 GMT
#3230
On October 05 2012 01:05 Liquid`NonY wrote:
insane that people from the mapmaking community defend diamond's right to give me shit for not fully explaining a situation to him that doesn't concern him at all on twitter. if you're gonna say anything at all, it should be a promise to put a leash on that bitch


Nony, though I don't think you are at your best, I do agree it is odd that people "defending" Diamond. I personally have only interacted with him one time on TL, when he was trying to defend on of the largest, dumbest map pools ever created. At the time he was very dismissive of everyone's complaints, stating that "everyone" was just repeating what they heard on SotG and implied that they could not think for themselves.

My real issue with this one is this:

Why would Diamond make a snarky comment to a clearly upset person through twitter in the first place? I think when people are clearly upset about something, people should avoid "poking the bear". It is just common courtesy to not make snarky when you know that the post was made when in anger. Nony has never asked people to boycot anything in the past, so a reasonable person would ask "What is his problem with this event?" If Diamond wanted information, he could have just asked. Instead he posted this:

16m Patrick Soulliere II ‏@ESVDiamond
@LiquidNonY Great post full of details on why to boycott it instead of a standard progamer QQ rage post. Oh wait.......
Expand Reply Retweet Favorite


There is no way in the world that can be taking as anything but a passive-agressive jab at Nony. I don't know what Diamond's plan was, but it likely involved irritating Nony. Sure, Nony's first tweet lacked specific information, but it was pretty clear that he was pissed about something. Twitter is a public forum, but it is still an interaction between people. You don't have to respond.

If someone yells "God damn it, this phone is a peice of crap. People should never buy it.!" in the middle of a busy train station, no one goes up to that person and says "Great comment...I could have used more details about the phone you are using and why it is bad." You know why? Because that person is clearly having a bad day and you don't poke the bear.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 04 2012 16:45 GMT
#3231
because people are interested even if they get only little bits of info and it's nice for me to vent when im upset. it doesnt make them entitled to full stories and explanations. if we're all using a service that allows us to say only a little bit at a time, and i choose to say a little bit over a matter, and he chooses to use the service to read my little bit, then it's fucked up on his part to complain that i said only a little bit, and to call out all other progamers who do the same. that's the nature of the format. and the nature of the relationship is we say however much we're willing to say. and saying a little doesn't mean we have to say a lot. people can ask for more information, but they shouldn't insult us because we didn't give more information in the first place.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 04 2012 16:51 GMT
#3232
Just block his ass and be done with it
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 16:54:13
October 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#3233
I love how this turned into NonY vs Diamond and noone is talking about the actually issue.

@NonY: When you tweet something like that, people will always be eager to learn the full story. Especially when it smells like drama. You're better off venting in private. You're not doing yourself or TL a favor here.
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 17:01:21
October 04 2012 16:57 GMT
#3234
On October 05 2012 01:53 lefix wrote:
I love how this turned into NonY vs Diamond and noone is talking about the actually issue.

@NonY: When you tweet something like that, people will always be eager to learn the full story. Especially when it smells like drama. You're better off venting in private. You're not doing yourself or TL a favor here.

It's perfectly reasonable to want to learn the full story. I wanted to learn the full story, but I didn't reply to NonY's tweet with a sarcastic remark making fun of him. I waited to see if NonY was going to explain himself through a post of some sort. If he didn't explain then that's his business, he just wanted to vent and Twitter is just as good a place as any to do that.

At first I thought Diamond was actually involved in some way, like he was the one organizing the event. I thought it was absurd when I found out that he was nobody in this conversation and had absolutely nothing to do with anything.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 04 2012 17:01 GMT
#3235
On October 05 2012 01:57 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:53 lefix wrote:
I love how this turned into NonY vs Diamond and noone is talking about the actually issue.

@NonY: When you tweet something like that, people will always be eager to learn the full story. Especially when it smells like drama. You're better off venting in private. You're not doing yourself or TL a favor here.

It's perfectly reasonable to want to learn the full story. I wanted to learn the full story, but I didn't reply to NonY's tweet with a sarcastic remark making fun of him. I waited to see if NonY was going to explain himself through a post of some sort. If he didn't explain then that's his business, he just wanted to vent and Twitter is just as good a place as any to do that.


Yeah, this can all be summed up with:

Nony: Made the mistake of venting about something he was upset about in a public forum.

Diamond: Taunted the upset person because he coud.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BuuurN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 17:03:18
October 04 2012 17:02 GMT
#3236
yeah i'd just like to reiterate the fact that diamond had absolutely nothing to do with the event, and if he didn't want to be called a bitch he should not have made some snide remark towards nony. It's diamonds own fault so every1 defending him should just stop
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 04 2012 17:05 GMT
#3237
On October 05 2012 02:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:57 garbanzo wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:53 lefix wrote:
I love how this turned into NonY vs Diamond and noone is talking about the actually issue.

@NonY: When you tweet something like that, people will always be eager to learn the full story. Especially when it smells like drama. You're better off venting in private. You're not doing yourself or TL a favor here.

It's perfectly reasonable to want to learn the full story. I wanted to learn the full story, but I didn't reply to NonY's tweet with a sarcastic remark making fun of him. I waited to see if NonY was going to explain himself through a post of some sort. If he didn't explain then that's his business, he just wanted to vent and Twitter is just as good a place as any to do that.


Yeah, this can all be summed up with:

Nony: Made the mistake of venting about something he was upset about in a public forum.

Diamond: Taunted the upset person because he coud.


I wouldn't say Nony made a mistake.
He can use his personal twitter however he likes.

If I see a Korean progamer tweet a shitload in Korean, chances are I unfollow.
If I see a celebrity advertise too much then I unfollow.

If you don't like what you see just unfollow.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 04 2012 17:11 GMT
#3238
On October 05 2012 02:05 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:01 Plansix wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:57 garbanzo wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:53 lefix wrote:
I love how this turned into NonY vs Diamond and noone is talking about the actually issue.

@NonY: When you tweet something like that, people will always be eager to learn the full story. Especially when it smells like drama. You're better off venting in private. You're not doing yourself or TL a favor here.

It's perfectly reasonable to want to learn the full story. I wanted to learn the full story, but I didn't reply to NonY's tweet with a sarcastic remark making fun of him. I waited to see if NonY was going to explain himself through a post of some sort. If he didn't explain then that's his business, he just wanted to vent and Twitter is just as good a place as any to do that.


Yeah, this can all be summed up with:

Nony: Made the mistake of venting about something he was upset about in a public forum.

Diamond: Taunted the upset person because he coud.


I wouldn't say Nony made a mistake.
He can use his personal twitter however he likes.

If I see a Korean progamer tweet a shitload in Korean, chances are I unfollow.
If I see a celebrity advertise too much then I unfollow.

If you don't like what you see just unfollow.


I was more saying that venting in a public forum is generally not a good idea. I don't do it at work or on twitter. But your points are valid, you don't need to follow people on twitter.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
October 04 2012 17:11 GMT
#3239
On October 05 2012 02:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:57 garbanzo wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:53 lefix wrote:
I love how this turned into NonY vs Diamond and noone is talking about the actually issue.

@NonY: When you tweet something like that, people will always be eager to learn the full story. Especially when it smells like drama. You're better off venting in private. You're not doing yourself or TL a favor here.

It's perfectly reasonable to want to learn the full story. I wanted to learn the full story, but I didn't reply to NonY's tweet with a sarcastic remark making fun of him. I waited to see if NonY was going to explain himself through a post of some sort. If he didn't explain then that's his business, he just wanted to vent and Twitter is just as good a place as any to do that.


Yeah, this can all be summed up with:

Nony: Made the mistake of venting about something he was upset about in a public forum.

Diamond: Taunted the upset person because he coud.



nony in response to diamond: total meltdown revealing how unbalanced he is right now
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 04 2012 17:13 GMT
#3240
On October 05 2012 02:05 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:01 Plansix wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:57 garbanzo wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:53 lefix wrote:
I love how this turned into NonY vs Diamond and noone is talking about the actually issue.

@NonY: When you tweet something like that, people will always be eager to learn the full story. Especially when it smells like drama. You're better off venting in private. You're not doing yourself or TL a favor here.

It's perfectly reasonable to want to learn the full story. I wanted to learn the full story, but I didn't reply to NonY's tweet with a sarcastic remark making fun of him. I waited to see if NonY was going to explain himself through a post of some sort. If he didn't explain then that's his business, he just wanted to vent and Twitter is just as good a place as any to do that.


Yeah, this can all be summed up with:

Nony: Made the mistake of venting about something he was upset about in a public forum.

Diamond: Taunted the upset person because he coud.


I wouldn't say Nony made a mistake.
He can use his personal twitter however he likes.

If I see a Korean progamer tweet a shitload in Korean, chances are I unfollow.
If I see a celebrity advertise too much then I unfollow.

If you don't like what you see just unfollow.

so wait, you're saying Nony can't possibly make a mistake by posting on his twitter cuz it's his personal space?

so he could post literally anything and it wouldn't be a mistake

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