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On December 13 2010 02:54 Fantistic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 02:42 Sfydjklm wrote:On December 13 2010 01:23 Jakalo wrote:That drone rush was epic, I cant believe he actually did that in a prized tournaments semifinals :p On December 13 2010 00:01 BritishBeef wrote:On December 12 2010 23:07 doerit wrote:
Thats just what i thought, and Idra predicted that to come if he played Zerg. Until now, he seems to be right.
Idra did that? Source plz I can just remember Idra writing something like "If Morrow wins a tournament with Zerg..." Actually i recall somewhere on teamliquid idra saying some smartass comments about morrow when he swapped, and for the record Morrow has already achived legend status with zerg, he RAPED strelok 2-0 **(HE ALSO 12 DRONE RUSHED Him.. thats 12 drones 1 overlord 0 spawningpool and won) So give the boy some of the respect he deserves There are these quotes, I`m saving them for that special occasion. On September 14 2010 16:41 IdrA wrote:On September 14 2010 10:22 MorroW wrote:On September 14 2010 08:15 Raiznhell wrote:this clearly shows that MorroW is OP not terran  ah thank you, im happy i could find at least 1 comment like this on 14 pages  its annoying me so much that everyone talk so much about imbalance we have no zerg players in general. who used to win as zerg when zerg was OP? like dimaga, who else ? haypro and zpux? i cant even name any other zergs that were on top of their game... we simply have few zergs participating in each tour and i think thats a bigger factor than the actual imbalance i almost wanna switch to zerg just to show it is possible, its not a coincidence dimaga is by far best zerg atm, he simply has alot more skills than the other zergs. i pity these lower level players that blame their losses on imbalance when dimaga still manages to win. we have 30 terrans who can fight nicely on the top in tvt but who can compete in zvz? the skill gap is huge there and so few players... youd be gold league if you played zerg not just as a switch, if youd been playing zerg since the beginning youd still be gold right now if you honestly think that you and 90% of the other terrans who are currently doing well deserve to win tournaments you're a joke. On September 16 2010 22:05 IdrA wrote:
lol
morrow wins a single prized tournament with zerg and ill never say the word balance again
morrow has won the HomerJ christmas Cup qualifier #3 which offered senheiser headphones as a prize I think IdrA meant a significant prized tournament. No offense, HomerJ.
that would be my first inclination too but if you read carefully he's talking about morrow being in gold.
And you can't jump from being in gold to winning gsl. Any prized tournament has to do.
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Morrow's zerg is actually looking to be shaping up well, given that he only recently switched.
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OP updated with members list, I signed in all who exoressed positive opinion towards Morrow in this thread (This is Fanclub thread after all, if I have included you against your will then please PM me Ill edit you out) not only ones who wrote sign me up as I assume most forgot as there was no members list at the start.
From now on formal ''sign me in'' of sorts is required.
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By the way, I'd like to sign up. Loved Morrow's play as T, loving it as Z as well even though it's still got ways to go. The general feel of his Zerg is great, and I love how he's always centered around amazing Overlord and creep spread. With a bit more experience, he's going to be a force to be reckoned with.
Not to mention his amazing rush against Strelok, #1 play this year in my opinion. In semifinals, none the less.
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On November 28 2010 03:22 Knix wrote:
I'm really confused on this. As to why MorroW should get a fanclub, that is. He seems like an okay guy, but.. MorroW's performance at dreamhack was absolutely horrible. He played like a 2k Zerg, which is funny, because he is a 2k Zerg. I was honestly shocked as to why he got an invite given his terrible performance. His games against Mana were just laughable. Bad decision making, bad creep spread, etc. I see how he's basically trying to defend his reputation by playing the "UP" race after just abusing shit like 5 rax reaper to win tournaments, but this is just silly.
He should just accept that he'll only be a mediocre Zerg at best and go back to being a slightly more than mediocre Terran.
User was warned for this post
Are you aware of the fact that he beat Mana 3-0 last time they faced in a tournament finals a couple of days ago?
On December 10 2010 16:18 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2010 15:59 Yusername wrote:
QFT. IdrA just got butthurt because he lost, and started a hate campaign against MorroW. MorroW admitted the 5 rax reaper build needed to be nerfed, and that should be enough. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Like you said, MorroW himself stated it was an overpowered build, which basically leads everyone to believe he wasn't at the same level as IdrA. That, compounded with the fact that Blizzard themselves nerfed that build horribly, make it seem like MorroW was simply just using imbalance to win. His switching to zerg (and playing it far worse than other pro zergs) hasn't helped his position at all. User was warned for this post
Around the same time that he switched to Zerg he also went back to school for his final year of high school. No one can continue performing on the same level when they first switch race, then go from spending all day focusing on Starcraft to all day focusing on studies.
Oh and btw, sign me up
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Sign me up. Morrow is cool (and swedish). :D
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Sign me up.
My only condition was he got a haircut (last saw him in IEM)and those iPhone photos have given that knowledge. Anyone who goes through a race switch , subsequent huge loss streak and sticks it through has definitely got the right attitude.
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Beyond his starcraft play morrow actually seems like a nice guy. He's chatty, he can be found in the cups IRC channels talking strategies and what not. It's hard not to like the guy. Idra on the other hand is what he is. And I don't think he really cares all too much what people think. And of course he shouldn't feel as if he has too.
But in terms of who deserves a fanclub and who does not, we have the following to compare:
- A guy who, when he's literally at the top of the foreign scene decides to switch race because it'll be more fun; comes back a month later and plays on par with other top foreign players and throws in a drone rush on steppes of war ZvT versus a pretty damn good terran in the semifinal of a big online weekly tour.
- A guy who spends most of his time complaining about perceived imbalances that affect his chances of winning negatively while almost never commenting on perceived imbalances that affects him positively; all the while being knocked out of GSL prematurely to the expectations hyped up by himself.
Don't want to add more to the list because it's unnecessary. But I really don't get the people stepping into this thread and posting comments on how they respect Idra more or whatever. Well good for you! Nobody cares, now leave the thread !
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On December 14 2010 01:31 ParasitJonte wrote:
- A guy who, when he's literally at the top of the foreign scene decides to switch race because it'll be more fun; comes back a month later and plays on par with other top foreign players
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
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On December 14 2010 01:31 ParasitJonte wrote:
- A guy who spends most of his time complaining about perceived imbalances that affect his chances of winning negatively while almost never commenting on perceived imbalances that affects him positively; all the while being knocked out of GSL prematurely to the expectations hyped up by himself.
Don't want to add more to the list because it's unnecessary.
That whole thing was unnecessary. -__-
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On December 14 2010 04:14 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 01:31 ParasitJonte wrote:
- A guy who, when he's literally at the top of the foreign scene decides to switch race because it'll be more fun; comes back a month later and plays on par with other top foreign players
! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
Which part of what he said are you disagreeing with? He was definitely among the best foreigners as terran and I can't see how you could say he's not comparable to other top foreigners now. He 2-0'd Strelok, Sjow has said that Morrow's zerg is some of the scariest to him, etc...
But to be fair I'm not sure how his other match ups are.
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On December 14 2010 04:21 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 04:14 Thermia wrote:On December 14 2010 01:31 ParasitJonte wrote:
- A guy who, when he's literally at the top of the foreign scene decides to switch race because it'll be more fun; comes back a month later and plays on par with other top foreign players
! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Which part of what he said are you disagreeing with? He was definitely among the best foreigners as terran and I can't see how you could say he's not comparable to other top foreigners now. He 2-0'd Strelok, Sjow has said that Morrow's zerg is some of the scariest to him, etc... But to be fair I'm not sure how his other match ups are.
I would say that he was certainly among the best foreign terrans in the TvZ matchup, though it's difficult to say how much of that was because of the reaper imbalance (and yes, I am aware that the reaper micro took skill that he was very much able to pull off - but we can't say that he would definitely be as good of a TvZ player after the nerf. He could probably 2rax allin just as well, but again, does that make a good player overall?).
Accordingly, it also makes sense that he would then be good at ZvT when he switched, and I don't deny that it does look good. However, every other matchup I've seen him play since switching to zerg has seemed quite lackluster compared to that of other pro zergs.
So, I agree that Morrow was good at TvZ and now ZvT, but from watching him stream and play in dreamhack, etc. I think that his other matchups are still pretty poor compared to most foreign pro zergs. In my opinion, that makes him more of a sniper, so to speak, than a "best player" overall.
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Guys you have already been warned about this, Fanclub thread remember?
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I take back every bad thing I said about MorroW. He made me eat my words lol. His ZvZ against MaDFroG was amazing, his play against mana when he won 3 0 was too. He has the potential to easily be a top Zerg play.
GOGO MORROW FIGHTIGN :D!
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On December 14 2010 04:28 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 04:21 Bibbit wrote:On December 14 2010 04:14 Thermia wrote:On December 14 2010 01:31 ParasitJonte wrote:
- A guy who, when he's literally at the top of the foreign scene decides to switch race because it'll be more fun; comes back a month later and plays on par with other top foreign players
! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Which part of what he said are you disagreeing with? He was definitely among the best foreigners as terran and I can't see how you could say he's not comparable to other top foreigners now. He 2-0'd Strelok, Sjow has said that Morrow's zerg is some of the scariest to him, etc... But to be fair I'm not sure how his other match ups are. I would say that he was certainly among the best foreign terrans in the TvZ matchup, though it's difficult to say how much of that was because of the reaper imbalance (and yes, I am aware that the reaper micro took skill that he was very much able to pull off - but we can't say that he would definitely be as good of a TvZ player after the nerf. He could probably 2rax allin just as well, but again, does that make a good player overall?). Accordingly, it also makes sense that he would then be good at ZvT when he switched, and I don't deny that it does look good. However, every other matchup I've seen him play since switching to zerg has seemed quite lackluster compared to that of other pro zergs. So, I agree that Morrow was good at TvZ and now ZvT, but from watching him stream and play in dreamhack, etc. I think that his other matchups are still pretty poor compared to most foreign pro zergs. In my opinion, that makes him more of a sniper, so to speak, than a "best player" overall.
Yeah I guess I'm not really in a position to argue since I've seen his ZvT almost exclusively. But I will still disagree that only his TvZ was good. His other terran matchups were fine as well, though I'd certainly admit his TvZ was his best. I would think of Morrow kinda like Light from BW.
Edit: On December 14 2010 04:35 Jakalo wrote:
Guys you have already been warned about this, Fanclub thread remember?
Oops, I'll stop. Sorry.
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On December 14 2010 04:28 Thermia wrote:I would say that he was certainly among the best foreign terrans in the TvZ matchup, though it's difficult to say how much of that was because of the reaper imbalance (and yes, I am aware that the reaper micro took skill that he was very much able to pull off - but we can't say that he would definitely be as good of a TvZ player after the nerf. He could probably 2rax allin just as well, but again, does that make a good player overall?).
Reaper imbalance? That was one series. People need to look past that series at all of his other accomplishments. People think all he did was reaper play based off of one series of games (when in fact he beat Idra in straight up macro despite the reaper harass in that series as well) should look at many of his other games.
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On December 14 2010 04:28 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 04:21 Bibbit wrote:On December 14 2010 04:14 Thermia wrote:On December 14 2010 01:31 ParasitJonte wrote:
- A guy who, when he's literally at the top of the foreign scene decides to switch race because it'll be more fun; comes back a month later and plays on par with other top foreign players
! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Which part of what he said are you disagreeing with? He was definitely among the best foreigners as terran and I can't see how you could say he's not comparable to other top foreigners now. He 2-0'd Strelok, Sjow has said that Morrow's zerg is some of the scariest to him, etc... But to be fair I'm not sure how his other match ups are. I would say that he was certainly among the best foreign terrans in the TvZ matchup, though it's difficult to say how much of that was because of the reaper imbalance (and yes, I am aware that the reaper micro took skill that he was very much able to pull off - but we can't say that he would definitely be as good of a TvZ player after the nerf. He could probably 2rax allin just as well, but again, does that make a good player overall?). Accordingly, it also makes sense that he would then be good at ZvT when he switched, and I don't deny that it does look good. However, every other matchup I've seen him play since switching to zerg has seemed quite lackluster compared to that of other pro zergs. So, I agree that Morrow was good at TvZ and now ZvT, but from watching him stream and play in dreamhack, etc. I think that his other matchups are still pretty poor compared to most foreign pro zergs. In my opinion, that makes him more of a sniper, so to speak, than a "best player" overall.
He was a top terran player in all matchups (also after the reaper nerf). I hate it when people think they know everything about a player just because they saw one BO5. He even won makro games without starting with reapers against Dimaga at the IEM.
In this BO5 against idra he won a makro game on blistering sands and a game without reapers on steppes.
His zerg is also very good in all matchups (e.g. 3-0 against Mana).
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OMG that drone rush was SWEEEEEET damn you gotta love this guy ^^
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Sign me the hell up son 
Your drone rush was pwnzorz.
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