I can't believe there hasn't been a fan page created for Cool yet!!!?! This guy is just beastly. His aggressive yet solid zerg play style, I'm sure, inspires many of us wee-little-Zerglings. He gives us hope, and makes us want to play ladder and get destroyed by Terran imbalance. lol jk. no. really.
This is a page created with the intent of showing him your support, love and infinite worship.
If you guys have any art work, pictures, replays, vods and/or suggestions!... ANYTHING to contribute to this page, please leave me a PM and I will put it up on this main page. ^__^ Thanks guys. <3
Cool has done such a plumb job, cherry-picked his strategies to perfection and left every one of his opponents sucking a lemon. His opponents carefully constructed plans seem to turn pear shaped whenever Cool is on the other side of the map. Whether it's the forbidden fruit of the six pool, or just going bananas with banelings, this man knows how to upset an apple cart and there has surely been some sour grapes left in his wake.
If he wins the GSL I'll only have one thing to say....
lol, in korea, there are people who sell fruits on the streets, in trucks or near train stations people selling yogurts, just about everything its really nice in korea how you can get things easily and for a good cheap price
When I heard artosis mention how he spoke with Cool and how his parents were fruit sellers, it just got my respect. He's taking on professional gaming and hes making his parents proud, complete respect, especially player zerg
I won't give him my love and infinite worship, but he certainly is one hell of a zerg player. His games against oGsTOP were part of the reason why I recently switched to zerg.
"Cool, you're playing against oGsInca, one of the best Protoss players in the entire world. What strategy could you possibly use against him?" + Show Spoiler +
"I figured I'd just six pool him. Don't worry. I got this."
Whoa, I think the GSL RO 8 results were was just spoiled for me, but if it meant cool wins I wouldn't mind someone posting "hey cool just won the GSL . This guy is such an amazing player, as Tastosis say I get nerd chills just watching him play.
"Fruitdealer, everything is on the line here. To make it to the semi's of the GSL you have to go through the protoss powerhouse known as oGsInca. What is your plan? Rush to Broodlords? 3 Base Muta?"
On September 28 2010 21:24 Kishkumen wrote: "Cool, you're playing against oGsInca, one of the best Protoss players in the entire world. What strategy could you possibly use against him?" + Show Spoiler +
"I figured I'd just six pool him. Don't worry. I got this."
On September 29 2010 02:28 ActualSteve wrote: I want to see a ZvZ between him and IdrA.
No doubt Cool would crush him. When the GSL started I had high hopes for Idra, I imagined him winning the whole thing. However seeing some of the players he could have faced I really doubt he would have made it.
On September 29 2010 02:28 ActualSteve wrote: I want to see a ZvZ between him and IdrA.
No doubt Cool would crush him. When the GSL started I had high hopes for Idra, I imagined him winning the whole thing. However seeing some of the players he could have faced I really doubt he would have made it.
+1
Cool would deal IdrA a bigass banana and make IdrA QQ.
Look on the bad side, if cool wins this tournament then blizzard might decide to keep Zerg at their current status.
In addition, Cool made a not so cool move by deciding to switch to a new race after this tournament. Maybe a good thing because Blizzard is so insistent that Zerg is balance. Maybe when nobody plays zerg anymore, Blizzard might finally decide to make some major changes.
Maybe it'll be a good thing if Cool suffers a humiliating defeat next round.
On September 29 2010 10:59 aztrorisk wrote: Look on the bad side, if cool wins this tournament then blizzard might decide to keep Zerg at their current status.
In addition, Cool made a not so cool move by deciding to switch to a new race after this tournament. Maybe a good thing because Blizzard is so insistent that Zerg is balance. Maybe when nobody plays zerg anymore, Blizzard might finally decide to make some major changes.
Maybe it'll be a good thing if Cool suffers a humiliating defeat next round.
False. He decided after winning ro16 that he'd be staying with Zerg. That post was just a QQ moment.
I see Cool as someone who has completely embraced the way zerg are meant to be played in SC2. Basically, he has mastered the art of being reactionary. Minus that awesome six pool, he simply counters what his opponents throw at him perfectly. He has showed me that the key to playing zerg, is knowing the other races.
It seems he has a perfect sense of knowing what the enemy can and can't have based on his scouting information and then reacts exactly the way he should.
Cool has done such a plumb job, cherry-picked his strategies to perfection and left every one of his opponents sucking a lemon. His opponents carefully constructed plans seem to turn pear shaped whenever Cool is on the other side of the map. Whether it's the forbidden fruit of the six pool, or just going bananas with banelings, this man knows how to upset an apple cart and there has surely been some sour grapes left in his wake.
If he wins the GSL I'll only have one thing to say....
Wow, those were the best games of SCII I've watched so far. Cool is just way better than everyone in the GSL aside from maybe Tester and IntotheRainbow. Maybe.
I think you should point out the fact he's 3-0 against NaDa in televised games and include the game with the infested CC's in the VOD's section. Because he's such a baller.
Can we change this to Fruit Dealer? Tastosis said something about him not using Cool anymore, and having Fruit Dealer as his new official name. :3 Also, Fruit Dealer is super good manner.
That being said, Cool is clearly the best zerg in the world. Great player, awesome interviewer with a sweet deep voice. He is the only one who can beat ITR imo. Whoever wins the other semi will be a huge challenge. ITR and Ensnare are prob the best 2 terran in the world and will play at a MUCH higher level than liveforever did I think.
On September 29 2010 10:59 aztrorisk wrote: Look on the bad side, if cool wins this tournament then blizzard might decide to keep Zerg at their current status.
In addition, Cool made a not so cool move by deciding to switch to a new race after this tournament. Maybe a good thing because Blizzard is so insistent that Zerg is balance. Maybe when nobody plays zerg anymore, Blizzard might finally decide to make some major changes.
Maybe it'll be a good thing if Cool suffers a humiliating defeat next round.
It's no humiliation when you lose because of imbalances... And he winning just proves he's damn good, because it will just make the winratio for Zerg champions after the beta from 2% to 4% =P
fruitdealer is so good ! his style reminds me of Broodwar Zerg which was always ma favourite back in the days ... Hope he wins the whole thing ! that'd be cool ^^
On September 29 2010 17:50 Wargizmo wrote: Do you like apples?
Cool has done such a plumb job, cherry-picked his strategies to perfection and left every one of his opponents sucking a lemon. His opponents carefully constructed plans seem to turn pear shaped whenever Cool is on the other side of the map. Whether it's the forbidden fruit of the six pool, or just going bananas with banelings, this man knows how to upset an apple cart and there has surely been some sour grapes left in his wake.
If he wins the GSL I'll only have one thing to say....
He is like the sAvior or sc2, maestro of the swarm, impeccable micro and timing and winning on what seems to be un winnable maps, leader of the Zerg race with second place no where to be seen.
Games 2 and 3 from GSL 2010 Semi's vs NexLiveForever. You can add to the VoDs section. Note: the audio is Tastless and Artosis, but the VoD is from the Korean commentators.
this dude is bitchslapping noobs left and right with the zergs. but he convinced every1 that he might switch race bc zergs is too hard and too weak and needs patch?
Cool might just turn out to be the sAviOr of SC2 if he continues his ways. This man is just prue amazing, Rainbow or Ensnare is gona have an EXTREMELY hard time trying to beat this guy.
I knew this guy was a top zerg before but i didn't really see anything special in his play from the replays i watched in the beta. But damn, how could i not become a huge fan after seeing his play from the GSL. He is the new maestro for sc2!
Son: Why's he playing Zerg, Dad? Father: Because we have to follow him. Son: He didn't do anything wrong! Father: Because he's the hero the Zerg deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll follow him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A fruit dealer.
You got to admit, It was genius of him to go for a base race because he considered these 2 factors:
1. Broodlings. He knew that he had broodlings to take out the marines and destroy the marauders with his mutalisk right after. Any other player would have thought, "Nooo! the Terran player can lift and only my mutalisk can kill it. I won't be able to win this base race!"
2. He knew that his opponent was gonna counter him. He had a ground army. Instead of microing it with the other spine crawlers, he decided to sneak his army by and assault the main.
In other words...genuis
Top 2 Zerg Broodling plays 1. MasterAsia vs DuckloadRa 2. Set 3 Round 8 Cool vs Nexliveforever
Artosis: You seem so dominant today. Can you explain the mistakes that your opponent made that allowed you to achieve such decisive victories?
(Interpreter mistakenly adds a phrase "and your strategic point today")
Fruit Dealer: I had only one day to prepare today's match, and I only practiced against protoss for a few days. So I just tried to recover my game sense against Terran, and did not prepare for today's maps or openings. Instead I relaxed thought I'd just play as practiced. mistakes my opponent made? um... In the first game, after destroying my natural, it would've been better if he went expo, or hellion drop would be good one. Choosing Banshee gave me a chance to win.
In around ro16, I thought I would switch race unless blizz balanced things, after SemiA, I'm staying Zerg the rest of my life. Kim Won Ki, such a beast! COOL HWAITING!
That first game against LiveForever was soooo baller! Fruitdealer is so cool*, I am going to eat 3 pieces of fruit every single day as a tribute to the hero of the swarm.
* Teeheehee
Edit: OH EM GEE i posted right after watching the VOD for the first game... The 2nd game was even more epic.. As a tribute to this game I will name my firstborn 'Bannana'
Edit 2: Ok, I just watched the 3rd game.. OH EM GEE..
On September 30 2010 20:22 FaLLeNaNg3L wrote: i totally neeeeeeeed the replays of him vs ogsTOP and him vs NEXLiveForever anyone know where to find those? FRUIT DEALER FIGHTING!!!!!
Instead of practicing on the ladder like I should I instead put together this recap of The Fruit Dealer's GSL games. My editing skills (and movie making skills in general) are non-existent.... but whatever, go Fruit Dealer!
On October 01 2010 04:06 Accer wrote: Instead of practicing on the ladder like I should I instead put together this recap of The Fruit Dealer's GSL games. My editing skills (and movie making skills in general) are non-existent.... but whatever, go Fruit Dealer!
Watching this guy just makes me grin ear-to-ear. The only play in this GSL that has entertained me as much as Cool's is tester's rush handling. (oh my god those stalkers) But still. OH MY GOD COOL
I must unfortunately admit that until these finals I had never truly watched Cool play, and just heard (and trusted) the hype.
However this is beyond comprehension. The kid is amazing. He's making Rainbow look like a fucking joke right now. My god.
A fucking joke.
<-- Instant fan. Terran player. Nuff said.
3set edit: I DONT UNDERSTANDDD. Cool is. A phenom. Everyone needs to play like this omg. He makes me want to play zerg, which I will probably do all weekend for shits and giggles. This is absolutely ridiculous.
All I can say right now...I stayed up all night just to watch these finals and hope that, despite everyone saying ITR would take it, Cool would pull it off. I am just absolutely amazed at the level of play he is putting out.
On October 02 2010 19:52 DarkShell wrote: HOLY SHIT!
All I can say right now...I stayed up all night just to watch these finals and hope that, despite everyone saying ITR would take it, Cool would pull it off. I am just absolutely amazed at the level of play he is putting out.
On October 02 2010 19:52 DarkShell wrote: HOLY SHIT!
All I can say right now...I stayed up all night just to watch these finals and hope that, despite everyone saying ITR would take it, Cool would pull it off. I am just absolutely amazed at the level of play he is putting out.
That was amazing congrats to you Fruit Dealer. I will always be a Terran guy, but I love a good show when I see one. And I love a good player when I am able to witness there astounding ability.
Incredible games, jesus... What a legendary way to end it (although rainbow winning a few more and making it a lil closer would've even more awesome ^^). Gogo FruitDealer!
that guys is seriously good, loved the last match were al the marine were stuck on the island expansion and couldn't leave cause of the mutas and @ the same time he attacks the main and kills all the mech units there , fast decisions, almost perfect timings ,loved it
Congratulations once again, GJ entering SC2 History as a first GSL winner Maybe not a underdog as player, but underdog when talking about race choice, every next round people thought "Oh well Cool plays good, but he is playing Protoss/Terran, they are stronger he will prolly lose" But he didn't. This really mans alot to Zerg community, he deserves all the fans he is about to get, and that he got allready..
fruitdealer is beyond awesome, but poor GSL1 translator guy has no fanclub :'( he's like the only guy in korea that speaks english, he needs respect. D:
While watching the game on kulas I was all like "oh wow he managed to hold against that tank drop on the cliff now maybe in 15 minutes he can slowly overpower terran through superior management...."
After hearing where his nickname came from, you cna't not love this guy and how he comes from adversity and be the first to ascend the throne of what is surely going to be a long lasting tradition within ESPORTS, namely the GSL.
This is why MBS ect were good for starcraft. So people with the brilliance of cool who don't happen to have been born freaks with 9001 apm can still show us amazing games and dominate.
BTW did you guys notice in games 1 and 2 of cool v NEXLiveForever when Tasteless and Artosis went "OH MY GOD" in perfect unison? I did that with them when I watched, lol.
On October 03 2010 09:06 mint_julep wrote: This is why MBS ect were good for starcraft. So people with the brilliance of cool who don't happen to have been born freaks with 9001 apm can still show us amazing games and dominate.
BTW did you guys notice in games 1 and 2 of cool v NEXLiveForever when Tasteless and Artosis went "OH MY GOD" in perfect unison? I did that with them when I watched, lol.
Cool has remarkably high APM bro... Probably one of the highest in SC2... You still need a lot of APM, to macro+micro at the same time.
On October 03 2010 15:22 LyRa wrote: i play zerg because of this guy.
QFT. Right now zerg is my worst race in terms of skill, but my favorite race in terms of fun factor. The only thing holding me back was having to play ZvT if I played Zerg, but now it's time for me to switch to full time zerg!
OMG FRUIT i want ur children....... Skillzzz that killz. Gives hope and tactical inspiration to all us zerg players contemplating going back to protoss or terran. Well done man
This guy is $85K riches. I mean can you guys even grasp how fucking huge this is?!?!?! It's far beyond ZvT imbalance or anything else... it was probably some cut-throat type of shit in Korea!!!
GJ, Cool. You better win the next one too!!! Then get JaeDong's attention... have him switch... and unleash hell on these punks!!! (Until Flash switches over ^^)
Hiding zerglings in smoke to catch reapers (IntoTheRainbow G5) (4)
6%
Defending all expos (IntoTheRainbow G1) (0)
0%
Other (0)
0%
68 total votes
Your vote: What was your favorite GSL1 FruitDealer moment?
(Vote): 15 ultralisks in production (oGsTOP G1) (Vote): Ultras splashing thor ball (oGsTOP G3) (Vote): 6pool out of nowhere (oGsInca G1) (Vote): Baneling+infestor+ultra massacre (NexLiveForever G1) (Vote): Flank+baneling carpet bomb (NexLiveForever G2) (Vote): Defending all expos (IntoTheRainbow G1) (Vote): Surprise nydus worm during micro battle (IntoTheRainbow G3) (Vote): Hiding zerglings in smoke to catch reapers (IntoTheRainbow G5) (Vote): Other
If you vote "other" tell us what it was ^_^
EDIT: Tastosis commentary for each moment below! Every one has "OMG" in it! + Show Spoiler +
15 ultralisks in production (oGsTOP G1) Artosis: "Cool has no mutas right now... and he's producing, HE IS PRODUCING, let's take a look at it-- FIFTEEN ULTRAS!" Tasteless: "Oh my god!" Artosis: "He is making fifteen ultras right now, Cool is so good! This folks, is how you play against terran." Tasteless: "Okay the ultras are out, the terran's in for a surprise--" Artosis: "Yeah that's right, he's gonna be CRUSHED here! SO many ultras!" Tasteless: "Oh my god!" (laughs)
Ultras splashing thor ball (oGsTOP G3) Artosis: "Here come the ultras!" Tasteless: "Can he do it though? Is it enough?!" Artosis: "I think it might be! The splash damage on the ultras is--" Tasteless: "OOOHHHHHHH!!!" Artosis: "Doing sick damage! And Cool, showing us zerg! Crushes right through!" Tasteless: "Oh my god!"
6pool out of nowhere (oGsInca G1) Artosis: "Guess what he's doing. It's called a 6pool, what's up." Tasteless: "Oh my god. No, no way."
Baneling+infestor+ultra massacre (NexLiveForever G1) Artosis: "Uh oh, here we go! Ultras in battle! Fungals all the marines, here come the banelings, wiping through everything! Ultras surrounding the tanks..." Both: "OH MY GOD!" Tasteless: "FruitDealer..." Artosis: "I have geek chills all through my body, tears in my eyes! This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen..." (chokes up) Tasteless: "I can't believe he's coming back from a position that was so bad--" Artosis: "Loses his hatchery, and he just comes back with ultras and fungals and banes and everything you can think of, and just rolls right over LiveForever." Tasteless: "Comes back and deals fruit you cannot refuse to buy!"
Flank+baneling carpet bomb (NexLiveForever G2) Artosis: "And look at this, they're gonna retreat... the [terran] army, through the little choke... and now he's gonna chase'em down, through! This is so amazing--" Tasteless: "He's coming back over here!" Artosis: "Here he goes! Cool is going for the kill right now. Fungal growth on the marines, flanked by the roaches and lings, WHAT IS UP!" Both: "OH MY GOD!" Artosis: "This is amazing play by Cool, completely, completely outclassing LiveForever!"
Defending all expos (IntoTheRainbow G1) Artosis: "Some ultras up there, but he's gotta bring more. Looks like these ultras are gonna fall very quickly to these marines... but FLANKED! Beautiful, look at this! The infestors fungaling and just surrounding everything! Oh my god, this is how you play zerg." Tasteless: "The FruitDealer's fruit is just too good. You gotta buy it, and it's being sold this game."
Surprise nydus worm during micro battle (IntoTheRainbow G3) Tasteless: "Got a viking out here!" Artosis: "Niiiiiiice. Super good timing right here, and as he kills that [overlord], no vision." Tasteless: "He can't see up there--" Artosis: "That's right!" Tasteless: "Meanwhile we got--" Artosis: "At the same time--" Both: "NYDUS WORM!" Artosis: "Oh my god, beautiful move right here! And a lot of speedlings coming out, SCVs coming, but he needs to kill the nydus! The nydus is the important thing to kill here." Tasteless: "There was so much attention being played over here that we actually didn't see--" Artosis: "Wow, I didn't even notice that." Tasteless: "Yeah, that's unbelievable. Uh, this, I think it's gonna be GG. *chuckles* He did it again!" Artosis: "This is so awesome."
Hiding zerglings in smoke to catch reapers (IntoTheRainbow G5) Artosis: "Zerglings going for the counterattack, the reapers have to chase. 'Cause if those zerglings-- OHH! They turn right around in the smoke! Beautiful move--" Tasteless: "Oh my god!" Artosis: "Using the smoke! That is SO amazing, that is what that smoke is for: ambush! Amazing play here!" Tasteless: "I can't believe that. I cannot believe he turned around. I was positive that he was just gonna go for the counterattack, but that was such... oh my god, that was so high level."
Hiding zerglings in smoke to catch reapers (IntoTheRainbow G5) (4)
6%
Defending all expos (IntoTheRainbow G1) (0)
0%
Other (0)
0%
68 total votes
Your vote: What was your favorite GSL1 FruitDealer moment?
(Vote): 15 ultralisks in production (oGsTOP G1) (Vote): Ultras splashing thor ball (oGsTOP G3) (Vote): 6pool out of nowhere (oGsInca G1) (Vote): Baneling+infestor+ultra massacre (NexLiveForever G1) (Vote): Flank+baneling carpet bomb (NexLiveForever G2) (Vote): Defending all expos (IntoTheRainbow G1) (Vote): Surprise nydus worm during micro battle (IntoTheRainbow G3) (Vote): Hiding zerglings in smoke to catch reapers (IntoTheRainbow G5) (Vote): Other
If you vote "other" tell us what it was ^_^
EDIT: Tastosis commentary for each moment below! Every one has "OMG" in it! + Show Spoiler +
15 ultralisks in production (oGsTOP G1) Artosis: "Cool has no mutas right now... and he's producing, HE IS PRODUCING, let's take a look at it-- FIFTEEN ULTRAS!" Tasteless: "Oh my god!" Artosis: "He is making fifteen ultras right now, Cool is so good! This folks, is how you play against terran." Tasteless: "Okay the ultras are out, the terran's in for a surprise--" Artosis: "Yeah that's right, he's gonna be CRUSHED here! SO many ultras!" Tasteless: "Oh my god!" (laughs)
Ultras splashing thor ball (oGsTOP G3) Artosis: "Here come the ultras!" Tasteless: "Can he do it though? Is it enough?!" Artosis: "I think it might be! The splash damage on the ultras is--" Tasteless: "OOOHHHHHHH!!!" Artosis: "Doing sick damage! And Cool, showing us zerg! Crushes right through!" Tasteless: "Oh my god!"
6pool out of nowhere (oGsInca G1) Artosis: "Guess what he's doing. It's called a 6pool, what's up." Tasteless: "Oh my god. No, no way."
Baneling+infestor+ultra massacre (NexLiveForever G1) Artosis: "Uh oh, here we go! Ultras in battle! Fungals all the marines, here come the banelings, wiping through everything! Ultras surrounding the tanks..." Both: "OH MY GOD!" Tasteless: "FruitDealer..." Artosis: "I have geek chills all through my body, tears in my eyes! This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen..." (chokes up) Tasteless: "I can't believe he's coming back from a position that was so bad--" Artosis: "Loses his hatchery, and he just comes back with ultras and fungals and banes and everything you can think of, and just rolls right over LiveForever." Tasteless: "Comes back and deals fruit you cannot refuse to buy!"
Flank+baneling carpet bomb (NexLiveForever G2) Artosis: "And look at this, they're gonna retreat... the [terran] army, through the little choke... and now he's gonna chase'em down, through! This is so amazing--" Tasteless: "He's coming back over here!" Artosis: "Here he goes! Cool is going for the kill right now. Fungal growth on the marines, flanked by the roaches and lings, WHAT IS UP!" Both: "OH MY GOD!" Artosis: "This is amazing play by Cool, completely, completely outclassing LiveForever!"
Defending all expos (IntoTheRainbow G1) Artosis: "Some ultras up there, but he's gotta bring more. Looks like these ultras are gonna fall very quickly to these marines... but FLANKED! Beautiful, look at this! The infestors fungaling and just surrounding everything! Oh my god, this is how you play zerg." Tasteless: "The FruitDealer's fruit is just too good. You gotta buy it, and it's being sold this game."
Surprise nydus worm during micro battle (IntoTheRainbow G3) Tasteless: "Got a viking out here!" Artosis: "Niiiiiiice. Super good timing right here, and as he kills that [overlord], no vision." Tasteless: "He can't see up there--" Artosis: "That's right!" Tasteless: "Meanwhile we got--" Artosis: "At the same time--" Both: "NYDUS WORM!" Artosis: "Oh my god, beautiful move right here! And a lot of speedlings coming out, SCVs coming, but he needs to kill the nydus! The nydus is the important thing to kill here." Tasteless: "There was so much attention being played over here that we actually didn't see--" Artosis: "Wow, I didn't even notice that." Tasteless: "Yeah, that's unbelievable. Uh, this, I think it's gonna be GG. *chuckles* He did it again!" Artosis: "This is so awesome."
Hiding zerglings in smoke to catch reapers (IntoTheRainbow G5) Artosis: "Zerglings going for the counterattack, the reapers have to chase. 'Cause if those zerglings-- OHH! They turn right around in the smoke! Beautiful move--" Tasteless: "Oh my god!" Artosis: "Using the smoke! That is SO amazing, that is what that smoke is for: ambush! Amazing play here!" Tasteless: "I can't believe that. I cannot believe he turned around. I was positive that he was just gonna go for the counterattack, but that was such... oh my god, that was so high level."
Reading that commentary again brought back so many great memories from those games. Fruit Dealer is just a beast. This poll definitely needs more attention
On October 14 2010 15:55 ZaaaaaM wrote: "I have geek chills all through my body, tears in my eyes! This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen..." Gotta love artosis <3
My favorite moment of the GSL so far. Artosis seemed to legitimately be moved by that play (as was I)!
On October 26 2010 01:55 Chriamon wrote: @Wargazmo, What about the queen healing mutas + lings vs Thor Marine game. That was so awesome.
That was in NexLiveForever game 1 but I only wanted to include one "best" moment in each game. The queens healing mutas play got overshadowed by the baneling+infestor+ultra massacre.
On March 16 2011 23:49 DongWang wrote: I think fruit's domination of the up/down matches showed us all that he's back.
Best zerg out.
I hope so, just read his TSL interview and it looks like he is trying to get back in his groove. He is such a fun player and his interviews are always hilarious, I await his return to power.
Oh just when I decided to bump this thread cause FD's Fanclub needs to be active again You guys did it already. We still love FD :x:x And shouldn't this thread be moved to Fan Clubs? The name is a bit confusing too
On March 20 2011 08:33 Affluenza wrote: I have no idea what has happened to Fruit but damn he needs to step up his game and return to his past level...
Fruit is the only players to have given me nerd chills....
He has really strong macro play, he just all-ins too much because he feels behind :o
I think Fruit peaked in season 1. I'm a huge fan, because his season 1 GSL games were the most exciting with the way he man handled zerg. He's right though, the reason he was doing so well was because he was playing far longer than most at that point. It's sad but I don't think he'll be winning anything major anymore. : (
Although I hope I'm wrong and somehow practices his ass off and pulls of another season 1, hehe.
Fruit dealer could easily have beaten Thorzain. He held off the 2 rax bunker rush beautifully and did an incredible job trying to come back in game 1. If he hadn't attempted the baneling bust (which can work wonders when a terran expands straight after a two rax), he would have been in a great position. Terran's are just really aware of the fact that zergs like to counter attack and know how to hold it off. He should never have tried it because he was never in a position that he needed to.
I'll sign up, Fruitdealer is what turned me Zerg and can't wait to see him hit stride. I will definitel follow him even if he starts to suck (which he won't!)
I cheer for fruit dealer all the time. This season he hopefully makes it out of his group and can show once again what zerg can do if played right.
As zerg had their darkest time, he kept up the hope. As zerg were falling left and right in tournaments, he crushed his opponents. As the maps promoted insane tank positioning, he went nydus. As he faced thors built in numbers like SVCs, he had his ultralisk force already in place. As it was common sense to consider zerg UP, he won the hardest SC2 tournament at that time.
Now he is under cover. His army is burrowed in the sands. Make no mistake, war is coming. He will rise again. The zerg revolution has just began.
Fruitdealer and Idra are the only 2 players which are keeping me playing zerg. Idra is a macro god that plays like a computer, and fruitdealer does such fun things and crushes anything the opponent has.
I am so sad that Nestea and Fruitdealer have to battle to the death tonight. My heart and hope goes with you FD I will never forget the trials you went through in GSL 1 and no matter what happens I will always have faith and always remember!
NesTea's amazing (e.g. Game 1 vs. anypro; very good timing and placement, though I've seen the strat before elsewhere), but it's hard to get any sort of emotional connection to him, like you get with FruitDealer.
I hope FD pulls off some sick games in the upcoming Supertournament. The guy who made Zerg viable (and, ironically enough, inspired NesTea to go for the gold in the GSLs) really shouldn't fade back into the woodwork, if the powers that be have any sense of justice left in their old bones.
All that aside, I was really impressed by how much he cleaned up his ZvP act for today, actually. I was expecting a few cheeses from him, but ... nope! Went completely standard and god, that first game he played was sexy as hell. Game 3 was pretty damn well-played too; unfortunately he made a few blunders that cost him the victory, but I'm hopeful (and will remain ever hopeful) for the rest of his future appearances now.
That expression on his face at the end of that series was absolutely crushing though. I hope he doesn't beat himself up too much over it.
On May 27 2011 06:38 damahammer wrote: i think his time is over
Depends what you mean by "his time." Sure, he hasn't won a second GSL, but he is still one of the most (If not the most consistent) progamers in Korea. He has been in the top 32 of EVERY GSL season, both opens and code S. He was consistently taking down tournaments in Beta and winning show matches against players like Boxer in between. + Show Spoiler +
and if today showed anything, he can still compete against solid players even in his worst matchup
It's not like he is losing to low-level players either. In season 2 he lost to MarineKing, who then went on to get 2nd place in a close 4-3 series and take 2 more silver medals in GSL so far. In season 3 he lost 3-2 to HongUn in the matchup he is least confident in. GSL January he lost in best of 1's to Zenio and IMMVP (Who went on to win), but beat Maka 2-0 to retain Code S. In march he lost 2 games to Anypro, who went on to the round of 4, while taking a game off genius. To get his code S status back he 2-0'd Virus. In May he beat Check and Lyn to advance to ro16 before losing to NesTea 2-1 in a ZvZ. Finally, he showed us today that his ZvP is strong enough to compete with Ace, a player who has been in Code A multiple seasons and has been destroying the foreign scene in things like IEM and NASL.
I'm done ranting now, I just feel like people are waaay to harsh on Fruitdealer. None of his losses have been to undeserving players. Even though he has not won a second GSL, he has still been a solid player since the beta.
On May 27 2011 07:50 Moderas wrote: It's not like he is losing to low-level players either. In season 2 he lost to MarineKing, who then went on to get 2nd place in a close 4-3 series and take 2 more silver medals in GSL so far. In season 3 he lost 3-2 to HongUn in the matchup he is least confident in. GSL January he lost in best of 1's to Zenio and IMMVP (Who went on to win), but beat Maka 2-0 to retain Code S. In march he lost 2 games to Anypro, who went on to the round of 4, while taking a game off genius. To get his code S status back he 2-0'd Virus. In May he beat Check and Lyn to advance to ro16 before losing to NesTea 2-1 in a ZvZ. Finally, he showed us today that his ZvP is strong enough to compete with Ace, a player who has been in Code A multiple seasons and has been destroying the foreign scene in things like IEM and NASL.
I'm done ranting now, I just feel like people are waaay to harsh on Fruitdealer. None of his losses have been to undeserving players. Even though he has not won a second GSL, he has still been a solid player since the beta.
Not sure what I should spoiler, since I think everyone already knows what's up in here. (If not, feel free to tell me to add spoiler tags.) But to add to what Moderas has said:
- PvZ is Ace's best match-up. He freaking 2-0'd Sen recently in the StarsWar tournament. That's right. Sen, whose ZvP is generally much better than FD's ZvP. - ZvP is FruitDealer's worst MU by far. Keeping this in mind, he played phenomenally today and would have won had he not made those tiny blunders that cost him the third game. I mean, sure, he lost, but he lost with fucking style right there, having played a superb, solid game up until the turning point. And if you're going to lose, that's definitely the way to go about it.
People are harsh on FruitDealer because they expect him to put out amazing results, and when he doesn't, they just rag on him. But fuck it, he's a brilliant Zerg, and after that performance today? God, that was fucking amazing play from him in his worst MU. If he continues to play at that same level or higher from here on out, then hell, with a little bit of luck, he can definitely reach the semi-finals again in another GSL season. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic here and letting my fanboyism blind me, but gosh, this is the FD fanclub, so why the hell not?
The only thing I'm worried about is the possibility that he might go into another slump after this loss today. That look on his face at the end of the match was painful, and I just hope he realizes that he played brilliantly, no matter what the results.
On May 27 2011 08:39 jongzor wrote: I'm just glad we got to see flashes of his S1 brilliance last night. EVEN THOUGH U LET ME DOWN FD, U STILL #1 IN MY HEART BRO (SOME HOMO).
wow. lol. i was gonna ask the community as a whole the reason for his name, but i kinda figure you would know. XD.
On May 27 2011 08:39 jongzor wrote: I'm just glad we got to see flashes of his S1 brilliance last night. EVEN THOUGH U LET ME DOWN FD, U STILL #1 IN MY HEART BRO (SOME HOMO).
wow. lol. i was gonna ask the community as a whole the reason for his name, but i kinda figure you would know. XD.
so whats the reasoning for his name?
before he was known as "Cool". eventually had to quit SCBW progaming to help his parent's fruitstand/whatever (since his dad got ill or something? I forgot) so then after he came back he was called himself fruitdealer.
He was a really promising Brood War player climbing his way up the ranks until his father became ill (Cancer I think) and he had to retire from Brood War to work his families fruit stand. When he started playing sc2 during the beta he named himself "Fruit Dealer" as a tribute to that, I guess. His Brood War name was "Cool" and he was known as oGsCool in sc2 for a while. His story is actually quite epic when it is written properly lol.
p.s. I really hope this is what you meant by "Reasoning for his name" >.>
On May 27 2011 08:53 Moderas wrote: He was a really promising Brood War player climbing his way up the ranks until his father became ill (Cancer I think) and he had to retire from Brood War to work his families fruit stand. When he started playing sc2 during the beta he named himself "Fruit Dealer" as a tribute to that, I guess. His Brood War name was "Cool" and he was known as oGsCool in sc2 for a while. His story is actually quite epic when it is written properly lol.
p.s. I really hope this is what you meant by "Reasoning for his name" >.>
lol yeah it was.
i was like 90% sure that it was gonna be some BS like "he thought it sounded cool" like evryone else.. but that is a pretty epic story for a name. TY
Fruitdealer is my #1 inspirator! Thanks to him I actually learned how Zerg should be played <3 I AM ETERNALLY A FAN OF THE ONE AND ONLY DEALER OF FRUIT! FRUITDEALER FOR THE WIN!
On May 27 2011 06:38 damahammer wrote: i think his time is over
I think this is a misconception.
- FD don't need to prove anything anymore. He won the GSL at a time zerg were widely considered UP with zerg. He showed us anything. Anything from sixpool on a 4-player-map to very long macro gamey with complicated tech switches. As there was no hope left for zerg, he refused to let us down. After the dust settled, he was the last man standing, losing the only map considered to favor zerg but taking all four maps which were considered to favor Terran.
- FD was Code-S top seed and stayed in Code-S since - where other champions fell down to Code-A. While his play style is unpredictable, his results are consistently high-level ones.
- Between genie and madness one often cannot differ. See his last game versus Nestea. It was supposed to work. If it would have worked, he would be praised as a genius to make banelings work versus roaches. However Nestea's roach split was too good. While we like Nestea for his results, we love Fruitdealer for his play.
The last point implies that we don't just like Fruitdealer, but love him. This love is everlasting. Fruitdealer's time will never be over, or at least not as long as zerg is played.
On May 27 2011 06:38 damahammer wrote: i think his time is over
I think this is a misconception.
- FD don't need to prove anything anymore. He won the GSL at a time zerg were widely considered UP with zerg. He showed us anything. Anything from sixpool on a 4-player-map to very long macro gamey with complicated tech switches. As there was no hope left for zerg, he refused to let us down. After the dust settled, he was the last man standing, losing the only map considered to favor zerg but taking all four maps which were considered to favor Terran.
- FD was Code-S top seed and stayed in Code-S since - where other champions fell down to Code-A. While his play style is unpredictable, his results are consistently high-level ones.
- Between genie and madness one often cannot differ. See his last game versus Nestea. It was supposed to work. If it would have worked, he would be praised as a genius to make banelings work versus roaches. However Nestea's roach split was too good. While we like Nestea for his results, we love Fruitdealer for his play.
The last point implies that we don't just like Fruitdealer, but love him. This love is everlasting. Fruitdealer's time will never be over, or at least not as long as zerg is played.
Yeah, Fruitdealer is the most consistent Champion at the moment, being the only one to consistently get to Ro16.
On June 25 2011 02:20 MrDudeMan wrote: I might be wrong but didnt FD and tester create TSL?
Basically. Which is why it's kind of weird.
I imagine that if a team picks up one of them, it will have to pick up the other. They seem to be really close friends, and I don't think they'd abandon each other.
This is all sorts of distressing, and now it's raining outside. Lol.
To be fair, that roach rush was pathetic, he could have used sheth's hatch first build in which he also gets 5 early roaches and had the same effect, with a good economy.
YOU'LL BE IN MY HEART. YES, YOU'LL BE IN MY HEART FROM THIS DAY ON NOW AND FOREVER MORE
YOU'LL BE IN MY HEART NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY YOU'LL BE HERE IN MY HEART, ALWAYS.
<3<3<3<3<3<3
Hope he finds his spark again and doesn't retire. I wouldn't have any other progamer to be obnoxious or obsessively gay over, you see. ALWAYS GONNA BE FIRST IN MY HEART, FRUITDEALER. ALWAYS, DUDE. Chin up, one foot in front of the other, sort yourself out, don't tank your health out of depression. That's the way to do it. Best of luck!
On June 29 2011 19:35 question wrote: not fan anymore.gg
Peace. Don't let the door hit your vag on the way out.
well i dont wanna be fan of a guy who gives up...I mean look at Jinro,hes doing pretty bad lately,but hes still fightning,I like that,but fruitdealer?He looked like he totally doestn give a shit...
On June 29 2011 19:35 question wrote: not fan anymore.gg
Peace. Don't let the door hit your vag on the way out.
well i dont wanna be fan of a guy who gives up...I mean look at Jinro,hes doing pretty bad lately,but hes still fightning,I like that,but fruitdealer?He looked like he totally doestn give a shit...
On June 29 2011 19:35 question wrote: not fan anymore.gg
Peace. Don't let the door hit your vag on the way out.
well i dont wanna be fan of a guy who gives up...I mean look at Jinro,hes doing pretty bad lately,but hes still fightning,I like that,but fruitdealer?He looked like he totally doestn give a shit...
Give him time. He's been in a shitty headspace for the last several months and is probably in a dark hole of depression right now. The extent to which that affects your play and your desire to win is immense.
I just hope he doesn't beat himself up too much over this. He needs to sort his mental space out right now. It's like he's trying to convince himself he doesn't care anymore, but then he loses, and you can see that he still cares, because losing fucking hurts.
Man, I wish I had a Twitter so I could Tweet him or something and come off as totally creepy.
I'm so sad for fruitdealer At the group selections he looked so sad as he said that if he didn't make top 4 this season he might retire. At the same time I can't help but feel some resentment for him, it seems like he isn't even trying anymore.
If he comes back and gets good results in whatever team he joins, i'll be happy for him, but until then, goodbye fruitdealer.
Can someone translate what happened to FD from playxp etc? Will be appreciated really. Only thing I heard from IdrA's stream is that FD hated the practice system in Estro and OGS that's why he doesn't practice much...
Yeah, it is indeed sad, But in the interview he said that if he is last in his group (so 4th in his group), then he'll retire. Not that if he doesnt reach Top 4 he ll retire.
Damn, fd, you broke my heart. It's like the zerg world went upside down from season 1 as of today. Back then everyone else was so clueless while he was using drops, nydus, fungals, t3 units and now he a-moves his mass roaches and the other zergs are variating their strats. He fell so bad that now you have to read that he won because ultralisk were imba and rainbow was a champion of fairness, ugh.
While his fall to up&down is sad, it's not the end of the world. He was in up&down before. So far he always stayed in Code-S, while other champions did fall to Code-A.
I almost thought Fruit dealer retired or something from reading the latest posts lol. up/down is still GSL, im confident he will figure something out before he hits those matches. Hell be fine!
Could somebody make a video montage of his games in GSL1 with the victory ceremony and add some snow patrol song to the background? Just to further cement the belief that he's retired.
Short after the release of the expansion, an unknown ladder player rocks the world. His laughable nick is "A GSL winner" and after he actually got through B, A and S and wins it, the tears the rubber mask from his face and it's HIM. The one, true champion. After winning every new GSL for 12 months in a row, he actually retires.
On June 30 2011 06:59 QTIP. wrote: i dont care how much he sucks, im always a fan
This. in my perspective, a fan should support his players at all times, not only when he wins.
also people tend to completely forget the accomplishments of a player has just because he is less successful in present days.
I will never forget the first GSL, and will always keep cheering for FD.
Yup, this is correct. Although i think that for most ppl, FD's weak success isnt the biggest issue, but instead it's his attitude towards playing competitively. I agree that a fan should stand by the player / team no matter if he is succeeding or not, but if the player himself couldnt care less, thats a different thing for most people.
Still, i hope that FD would somehow find the spark that would keep him going.
chillax, players with their 'own gameplay' tend to have troubles. I'm pretty sure he won't be knocked out of Code S ( hopefully win a gsl, but i don't see it )
On June 30 2011 22:02 HelloxD wrote: chillax, players with their 'own gameplay' tend to have troubles. I'm pretty sure he won't be knocked out of Code S ( hopefully win a gsl, but i don't see it )
On June 30 2011 22:02 HelloxD wrote: chillax, players with their 'own gameplay' tend to have troubles. I'm pretty sure he won't be knocked out of Code S ( hopefully win a gsl, but i don't see it )
Fruitdealer!!!!! Dun give up brah
He's in Code A now...
No, he's not. How can someone say something like this with such confidence and yet be so wrong?
fruitdealer, cool... the only reason I went from a bronze terran to a high masters zerg.. keep on fighting man, you can still do it, just put some effort into your play!
In the Code-S Group C matches recently, he looked not so well, like he was tired.
Can someone contact him and tell him that the Teamliquid.net Fruitdealer fanbase still supports him?
Wolf and Unstable made fun of him, for example that he looked like a villain. But the only thing he looks like is a badass zerg. I think FD should know that we don't judge him by his lack of shaving and that his hair-style is great.
I've been so sad for FruitDealer lately. I can see he looks tired, worn and frustrated that last match he played against Virus was so hard to watch. It was like he just gave up
You can follow fruitdealer on twitter @fruitdealar
I send him messages of support all the time before a match but he never replies. I guess he doesnt check it often or doesn't know a lot of english.
I'll always cheer for Fruitdealer though. He's my Zerg Hero
ST_Fruitdealer yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa. He assured me that I picked the right race. From bronze last year to High Diamond now, I still look up to this guy who was able to be the best when Zerg was incredibly UP. I hope July and FD would be able to exchange knowledge and make themselves better.
S'okay, bro. If you start streaming on TL like Rainbow, I'll forgive you for everything and then some.
... nahhhhh, you've already got my forgiveness. Do what makes you happy. If that means just dicking around in SC2, then just dick around in SC2. Life's too short to waste time on practicing a game you no longer truly care to practice for anymore, and that's just how it goes. Wherever you choose to go from here, whatever you choose to do, just remember to do it with conviction, and your fans will back you every step of the way.
Best of luck, O mighty dealer of fruit.
(No, but really, take a vacation and think about streaming on TL. That would be swell. Troll the NA ladder. It's fun, I guarantee you.)
The expression on his face after losing to Dream in his 3rd game was just heartbreaking. I think this is a turning point for him: Falling to Code A, new team, new chance to redeem himself again. He can either completely fall out of progaming and pursue other avenues, and if he does that, I will wish him the best. Or, he can practice like a madman, overcoming his seemingly weak work ethic and become a beast again, and that'll be awesome as well.
Fruitdealer fighting tonight! Approximately 15 minutes from now, in fact. My friend asked me if I heard of One Republic, and I asked him if he's heard of Fruitdealer.
Whatever the result is tonight, FruitDealer is fucking FruitDealer and will always be the first GSL champion, the first Zerg hero in the hearts of many. Can't say that for anyone else.
Well played fd :D Unfortunate for Maru though, first game in code a vs fd is just unlucky. Hopefully comes back strong. Fd handled everything that was thrown at him well, hope he builds on this :D
Edit: Woops. FD looking good in his code A matches, but his opponent was choking. I wanna be inspired like I am watching DRG/Losira/Nestea. Nestea's friends with FD after all.
GanZI smashed FD today. GanZI is one of the very few terrans I actually admire. Still I cheered for Fruitdealer, but he was not able to slay that SlayerS-terran.
I hope that Fruit feels well at StarTale. Imagine him training and sharing tips with July makes me fuzzy and warm inside.
I think Fruitdealer played very well. Relentless marine pressure seems to be what Terrans do to Zerg these days to beat them. And with good reason. I enjoyed the games nonetheless, and I think FruitDealer is on a rise again, even if he is "already" out of this.
FD looked pretty good today. Especially in the first game he was doing things a lot of things that i really liked. They didn't mention it but he was using his overseer to contaminate that robo as often as he could.
Also Creeping the 3rd base vs Terran and Toss is something Zergs should be doing more of. Not to mention constant scouting of Sase base.
On September 20 2011 23:53 Cyanocyst wrote: FD looked pretty good today. Especially in the first game he was doing things a lot of things that i really liked. They didn't mention it but he was using his overseer to contaminate that robo as often as he could.
Also Creeping the 3rd base vs Terran and Toss is something Zergs should be doing more of. Not to mention constant scouting of Sase base.
That is right. I watched the games with sound disabled, so I don't know about the commentary.
As I watched Fruitdealer's play, I saw the powerful zerg again which abuses his race to the max. He did not pull off a gimmick, instead he played smart and with awareness. He played like Fruitdealer.
When Fruitdealer doesn't do stupid cheeses and play patiently he's actually decent.
But yeah people doubting FD against Sase are kind of delusional, FD sucks by Champion / Code S standards but foreigners suck even more. When foreign SC2 fans talk shit on weaker GSL players such as Hongun or TheBest don't realize that they're Masters / GM in the KR server and can wipe the floor with foreigners most of the time.
Artosis saying "Rain used to be a cheeser but he's improve a lot, how is he so good now?" after Rain owning in MLG kind of made me lol. Foreigners aren't worth cheesing against compared to let's say, Nestea.
On September 21 2011 05:51 ppshchik wrote: When Fruitdealer doesn't do stupid cheeses and play patiently he's actually decent.
But yeah people doubting FD against Sase are kind of delusional, FD sucks by Champion / Code S standards but foreigners suck even more. When foreign SC2 fans talk shit on weaker GSL players such as Hongun or TheBest don't realize that they're Masters / GM in the KR server and can wipe the floor with foreigners most of the time.
Artosis saying "Rain used to be a cheeser but he's improve a lot, how is he so good now?" after Rain owning in MLG kind of made me lol. Foreigners aren't worth cheesing against compared to let's say, Nestea.
You put Koreans on a pedestal that is really way too high. It is disgusting, seriously. I'm not going to start an argument, but you are way too delusional to how small the skill gap really is.
On September 21 2011 05:51 ppshchik wrote: When Fruitdealer doesn't do stupid cheeses and play patiently he's actually decent.
But yeah people doubting FD against Sase are kind of delusional, FD sucks by Champion / Code S standards but foreigners suck even more. When foreign SC2 fans talk shit on weaker GSL players such as Hongun or TheBest don't realize that they're Masters / GM in the KR server and can wipe the floor with foreigners most of the time.
Artosis saying "Rain used to be a cheeser but he's improve a lot, how is he so good now?" after Rain owning in MLG kind of made me lol. Foreigners aren't worth cheesing against compared to let's say, Nestea.
You put Koreans on a pedestal that is really way too high. It is disgusting, seriously. I'm not going to start an argument, but you are way too delusional to how small the skill gap really is.
It's been a while since i watched the FD tribute video. I still get teary-eyed when i see it. I don't think i will every be as emotional about Starcraft/zerg as i was back then and every time i watch this video.
On September 21 2011 05:51 ppshchik wrote: When Fruitdealer doesn't do stupid cheeses and play patiently he's actually decent.
But yeah people doubting FD against Sase are kind of delusional, FD sucks by Champion / Code S standards but foreigners suck even more. When foreign SC2 fans talk shit on weaker GSL players such as Hongun or TheBest don't realize that they're Masters / GM in the KR server and can wipe the floor with foreigners most of the time.
Artosis saying "Rain used to be a cheeser but he's improve a lot, how is he so good now?" after Rain owning in MLG kind of made me lol. Foreigners aren't worth cheesing against compared to let's say, Nestea.
You put Koreans on a pedestal that is really way too high. It is disgusting, seriously. I'm not going to start an argument, but you are way too delusional to how small the skill gap really is.
I wouldn't say disgustingly high. I do admit he may have gone a bit overboard....
But seriously, until the day Foreigners actually ovecome Koreans, you can't say he's "delusional".
Fruitdealer still continues to show flashes of his previously brilliant play, even though he has fallen from grace I still always cheer for him, hoping one day he will make it back to the top.
To me he is the SaviOr of SC2, without the match fixing scandal of course. In his time he showed brilliance and domination in a way that was unheard of for the underdog race. But yet, he fell as swiftly as he rose. I feel it is just his passion isnt there, you could see the emotion in his wins in GSL S1, after that not so much, however I feel like I am starting to see it in him again and have hopes he will pull through.
He honestly looked great vs Sangho. He did great denying the third in game 1, and game 3 he honestly looked like a solid korean zerg. Maybe he won't make it back to code S before, ok he'll never make it back to code S, but he's definitely not in bad shape ZvP.
Fruitdealer is looking so good right now... and it's not just that he's winning left and right, it's that he isn't showing any fear of playing macro games like he has in recent months. I'll be so happy if Fruitdealer wins IEM
On September 26 2011 15:48 Phtes wrote: Fruitdealer still continues to show flashes of his previously brilliant play, even though he has fallen from grace I still always cheer for him, hoping one day he will make it back to the top.
To me he is the SaviOr of SC2, without the match fixing scandal of course. In his time he showed brilliance and domination in a way that was unheard of for the underdog race. But yet, he fell as swiftly as he rose. I feel it is just his passion isnt there, you could see the emotion in his wins in GSL S1, after that not so much, however I feel like I am starting to see it in him again and have hopes he will pull through.
... dude
Zerg was never an underdog race in StarCraft 1. The maps at the time of sAviOr's OSL win were Terran favoured, but Protoss was doing wose than Zerg at the time. Protoss was the underdog race then, not Zerg, because of PvZ. When FruitDealer won GSL, Zerg was actually legitimately underpowered, not just behind in strategies like Protoss was in Brood War for PvZ.
Also, FruitDealer won one GSL, sAviOr was a fucking bonjwa for more than a year.
I always see Fruitdealer play reasonably well and then he loses to something unexpected, as if he never consciously practiced against that strategy/tactic. One thing that comes to mind is the supply depot wall-off of the Xel Naga Caverns backdoor of Thorzain in their game in TSL3. Fruitdealer clicked behind the wall-off and suddenly his army confused its pathing and got slaughtered. This is not the kind of mistake you make twice, but it's also something that can lose you games and should have been dealt with in practice.
Actually, I didn't think his games versus SangHo were that amazing. He kept winning with early-game attacks and seemed wasteful with his army and lost for where to transition to sometimes. Maybe he does have the raw talent to be one of the best, I don't know, but I'm not seeing it with his current form/play.
What a baller, I loved Fruitdealer after GSL Season 1 and will always be his fan. I thought he played really well vs Sangho and he just has a very fun playstyle to watch. Fruitdealer fighting!
Every time I see this fanclub I read the name like an actual sentence... You know, cool, there's a fruit dealer over there. We can get something tasty.
Sad that he couldn't make taking down DRG to make IEM NY his major comeback but beating the only toss to survive the group stages in code S and the guy who beat TOP gives me newfound hope for fruitdealer, come on man make the next code A your big comeback.
On October 17 2011 02:41 Fusilero wrote: Sad that he couldn't make taking down DRG to make IEM NY his major comeback but beating the only toss to survive the group stages in code S and the guy who beat TOP gives me newfound hope for fruitdealer, come on man make the next code A your big comeback.
yeah all fanboyism aside, i think he looked really good this tournament, excited to see his future games after this performance :D
On October 17 2011 02:40 xtfftc wrote: Every time I see this fanclub I read the name like an actual sentence... You know, cool, there's a fruit dealer over there. We can get something tasty.
I got a chance to chat with him a bit after the match - he's a really nice guy, and said that he was surprised but really happy to find that he had fans here in New York. It actually turns out that he lives very close to where I used to live in Seoul, and we had a good laugh about the idea of us being neighbors. I even promised to buy my groceries from his parents the next time I go back. He was gracious enough to take a picture with my friends and I and sign my friend's copy of SC2 as well. Hopefully his silver at IEM will get him some momentum and confidence going into next Code A.
(He's also, as a side note, the only Korean pro I've ever spoken to who wasn't shocked to hear a white man speak Korean.)
Always a fan but lost hope for this guy, looks like he just doesn't care about sc2 after winning 50k. I still remember his perfect game vs oGsTop on scrap station vs mech play, was beautiful. Hoping he starts playing again
His victory in the first GSL will always rank as #1 for me. I switched from T to Z when I saw him play that season and I haven't looked at another race since. Hopefully he'll bounce back up to the top soon.
Fruit Dealer's win is still the best. Even a year and like 14 GSL's later his storyline and creative play make it the best still. I mean, I loved MMA vs DRG this month (definitely second in the GSL finals) but it doesn't compare to FruitDealer's first win =)
If this guy streams I will tune in all of the time with adblock off.
I will be really sad if FruitDealer moves to LoL, I feel he can do so well if he practiced hard(although he could be...). FruitDealer if you read this please dont quit SC2<3.
I know alot of people don't take Fruitdealer seriously anymore in SC2, but he still played such a role in help building the game up and helping it get established in the first Open Season of GSL. I would hate to see him move to LoL, but if that's what he does, I hope he finds success there like he did for a while in SC2.
I lost so much respect for FD for quitting sc2 and moving on to LoL. He gave the swarm hope when they in trouble. He won when protoss 4gate was viable in any matchup and terran was... well... terran.
Guys, calm down, there's no official word yet. We should probably wait before we start to take "respect points" away from Cool for switching to another game that he enjoys and is quite possibly passionate about.
On January 17 2012 05:25 SaltTheWound wrote: I talked to destiny at the homestorycup and since he practice at the ST house he told me that fruitdealer is only playing LoL right now.
But wasn't Destiny in Korea around StarTale's vacation though? In the StarTale house tour video (By Up Close Gamers), it was stated that Fruit Dealer was playing LoL to relax. I won't believe anything until we have strong proof that he will switch to LoL. I don't really see the switch happening unless one of the players on StarTale's LoL team is quitting. Honestly, if it does happen, then I won't be too surprised. A lot of former strong beta players are struggling or nonexistent in the SC2 scene lately
On January 04 2012 14:58 Kluey wrote: FruitDealer is going to LoL.
Proof or GTFO
at iem ny he was playing alot of lol, lol
He didn't participate in the qualifiers :'(
This keeps going around that FD didn't play in the last Code A qualifiers, but apparently he did and got eliminated in the semi finals of his group by TSL Ragnarok, who lost in the final to Jjun, who lost to July in Ro48 of Code A.
On February 18 2012 02:33 raf3776 wrote: Fruitdealer got 2nd in a tourny near the end of last year didnt he? lost against DRG. Though it wasnt a stacked tournament he still beat good players
was IEM NY. he will also play on IEM WC because he qualified for it through IEM NY.
On February 18 2012 02:33 raf3776 wrote: Fruitdealer got 2nd in a tourny near the end of last year didnt he? lost against DRG. Though it wasnt a stacked tournament he still beat good players
I did realize this until I saw it on liquidpedia, Fruitdealer recently(not really to recently but still...) got 4th in the IGN ProLeague Season 4/Pacific Qualifiers. Hopefully that means he is atleast trainign and will be ready for IEM World Champ! :D!
On March 03 2012 09:50 Goldenfighter wrote: What happened to FruitDealer? Anyone knows why he isn't playing in IEM?
I assume it might be because Code A qualifiers are around that same time, and as well GSTL for his team, both of those are sadly more important then IEM.
Yeah I'm really sad that he isn't going to be playing as well..But Code A qualifiers and GSTL match is much more important. Heck if they win GSTL they all get a IPL4 spot anyway.
Fruitdealer was the proof that SC2 is a game of skill. As he won the initial GSL championship, the game was not only considered still imbalanced, it also seemed doubtful that this BrowderCraft actually rewards skill. Also his storyline probably got people to watch. A noname BW pro who had one good series televised, forced to take a break in pro gaming, only to return in SC2 as the mysterious ladder god who wins the GSL with the race which was considered too weak in those days.
It's undoubtably sad to see him go. I am often disappointed in SC2, and while a chunk of that is related to Brood War, I can't deny another part was wholly Fruitdealer's fault. For every uninteresting game in the first GSL, he had 2 amazingly interesting ones. He set the bar high for what I would expect out of the game. Sadly, it took almost a year before the game truly got going in a manner that even approached the level of "fun to watch" that Fruitdealer brought in the first season.
What?! How depressing! Fruitdealer was the first zerg I ever watch really dominate the scene, and is who inspired me to really work on my Zerg play. It's super sad to hear he's moved on.