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On May 11 2013 04:36 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Now that he isn't on EG, can we finally get an Idra flair?
I think TL's requirements are that we need to clone him 4 times and enter him into a teamleague. Any scientists out there :p
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You have my undying support IdrA. I`ve been a fan for years and I ain`t ready to back down! Stay strong and know that you have earned more fans through your honesty and dedication than most of these hypocrites white-knighting you ever will.
Know that there are tons of people like me who respect you and don`t take the things you sometimes say so goddamn personal. We know you`re a decent guy and we`ll keep on cheering for you! Thank you for staying true to who you are.
-“Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armour yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you.” -
Regards
Your fan from Norway
-Kim-
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On May 11 2013 04:28 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:02 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished? That will drop fast. On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall? I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly. Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did. I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing. idra hated the game when he was winning too I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops. he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so. I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long. loving to win and loving the game are two completely different things
So I guess you have it all figured out: he hates the game, he wants out of it.
Why is he still around after 3 years of playing this awful game?
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On May 11 2013 04:47 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:28 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 04:02 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished? That will drop fast. On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall? I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly. Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did. I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing. idra hated the game when he was winning too I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops. he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so. I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long. loving to win and loving the game are two completely different things So I guess you have it all figured out: he hates the game, he wants out of it. Why is he still around after 3 years of playing this awful game?
Because it's his job and he put so much time and effort into it?
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On May 11 2013 04:47 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:28 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 04:02 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished? That will drop fast. On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall? I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly. Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did. I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing. idra hated the game when he was winning too I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops. he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so. I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long. loving to win and loving the game are two completely different things So I guess you have it all figured out: he hates the game, he wants out of it. Why is he still around after 3 years of playing this awful game?
because he makes 96k a year
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On May 11 2013 04:58 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:47 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 04:28 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 04:02 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished? That will drop fast. On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall? I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly. Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did. I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing. idra hated the game when he was winning too I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops. he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so. I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long. loving to win and loving the game are two completely different things So I guess you have it all figured out: he hates the game, he wants out of it. Why is he still around after 3 years of playing this awful game? because he makes 96k a year
Are you just making shit up or is that the actual number?
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i hope idra releases a statement saying something like...
"to all the people saying i need to manner up and act more professional -- guess what? i'm going to say and do whatever i want because, honestly, i don't give a fuck about what you think."
the resulting war between fans and anti-fans would rip apart the internet -- making idra the most famous and badass sc2 player of all time.
edit: oh wait he might already be.
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Idra, stay strong! 
I really liked it when I learned you like cooking from InControl. Would be awesome if you would record a video of you making some delicious meal. :D
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Thank you Idra for pulling me into SC2, i will be forever grateful for that.
Good luck in whatever You'll choose to do, I hope You'll stay with us, and get to the top again, everyone knows You can.
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On May 11 2013 05:03 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:58 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 04:47 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 04:28 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 04:02 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished? That will drop fast. On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
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I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.
Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did. I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing. idra hated the game when he was winning too I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops. he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so. I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long. loving to win and loving the game are two completely different things So I guess you have it all figured out: he hates the game, he wants out of it. Why is he still around after 3 years of playing this awful game? because he makes 96k a year Are you just making shit up or is that the actual number?
Yeah, Source on that, player salaries are pretty obscure so I would love to know where the 96k figure is from.
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Idra man, keep your head up. You inspired alot of people!!!!!
Hope you find happiness soon!
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idra in the news on International Business Times
ibtimes.com
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Hes unbanned now, maybe he will say something.
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On May 11 2013 05:38 Juggernaut477 wrote:
Hes unbanned now, maybe he will say something.
Maybe if we do the ritual where we repeat the word three times he will show up
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On May 11 2013 04:47 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:28 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 04:02 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished? That will drop fast. On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall? I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly. Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did. I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing. idra hated the game when he was winning too I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops. he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so. I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long. loving to win and loving the game are two completely different things So I guess you have it all figured out: he hates the game, he wants out of it. Why is he still around after 3 years of playing this awful game?
He's stated that he enjoys competing.
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Man this sucks ass. Having mulled it over for a bit, I still think it's a cop out by EG, but then we don't know how this went down internally. I just hope he can somehow use this. It's always darkest before the dawn and such. SC2 needs a Gracken. I bloody need a Gracken. Stay strong man.
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On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?
Game design more than anything. The "this unit counters this unit hard" is aggravating compared to BW which had unit counters but they were more like "if you have X unit and you micro your ass off you will win vs even number of Y unit". Then the changes to damage types and efficient attacks (like marines will do exact damage to kill something then go to next) and de-emphasis on positional play (shooting up a hill in sc1 made your units miss like 40% or something). This all combined with the "ball" of units that is practically unavoidable makes sc2 less mechanically challenging to win and more emphasis on strategy. Not to say bw didn't ahve strategy and sc2 doesn't have mechanic necessity. it's just that you can 6 pool your way to masters or even GM whereas playing macro "Standard" is much much harder than 6 pool.
This translates to him being mad when someone is able to use a build that doesn't require as much "skill" and relies more on chance or gimmicks to win to beat the "Safe" standard play he gets annoyed. I don't think it is nearly as prevalent now as it was in like 2010 and 2011 so the game is doing better but still. Then the counter thing really comes into play when you ahve banelings, WM, and Colossi (examples) that become rediculously cost efficient with not as much effort. The unit to look at atm is the WM that can be burrowed somewhere and forgotten (75/25 1f is pretty cheap) and wreak, whereas the counter play to it is running small batches of lings into it or w/e.
This goes to another point. The balance of SC2 is always going to be a little off; This wasn't so much of a problem in BW because you could diminish the effects of early cheese and aspects of races that were deemed OP by changing the map size. In SC2 a number of changes like saturation numbers and the power of late game units makes this harder if not impossible in SC2. As an example of this, it feels like most pros don't like maps with easy to take 4ths because it promotes passive 200 deathball protoss armies. 3 base is fairly optimal for terran because the race prefers smaller skirmish type battles and the 5/6th gases are not really needed. These are just some examples of balance/game design problems someone like IdrA might have, and they might be wrong, after all this is based on my perception.
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EG changing rosters left and right.
+ alive, oz
- LZgamer, Puma, Idra
And that's just in the last two months.
Previously, in like the last year.
+JYP, Huk, Thorzain, Stephano, JD, revival
-strifecro, Axslav
Maybe Naniwa will start a team with Idra, (maybe nony), white-ra, Rmdx, Ruff, Puma, and Grubby.
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On May 11 2013 05:57 tokinho wrote:
EG changing rosters left and right.
+ alive, oz
- LZgamer, Puma, Idra
And that's just in the last two months.
Previously, in like the last year.
+JYP, Huk, Thorzain, Stephano, JD, revival
-strifecro, Axslav
Maybe Naniwa will start a team with Idra, (maybe nony), white-ra, Rmdx, Ruff, Puma, and Grubby.
NaNiwa is already on EG part 2
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On May 11 2013 04:02 Umuryum wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:54 MimeTIC wrote:
thats a fall! i just hope idra don't go work in mcdonalds now, i love eating there... You know he probably still has a lot of money, and prolly he is going to attend to a college that you probably would not get an acceptance from. Just sayin'. He is or was a progamer, don't know if he is going to quit, he is not an idiot. His intellectual capacity is higher than yours. Wouldn't be surprised if IdrA would be the one who is ordering you a Big Mac, instead of you ordering him.
rofl.
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