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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 18:13:53
May 10 2013 18:11 GMT
#56121
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.
Sqorpion
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark384 Posts
May 10 2013 18:20 GMT
#56122
On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished?

That will drop fast.

On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.

I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
May 10 2013 18:25 GMT
#56123
On May 11 2013 00:48 radurock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:33 Fortii wrote:


man i miss the old days, there is just no more excitement for me in sc2 (beside the emotional rollercoaster that is watching idra atm ^^)


if idra was the only excitement for you in sc2 you clearly are a person who enjoys these kinds of drama. And yes if you say that the biggest part of the community is made of dumbasess , the community thanks you. They might be dubm as you say but the mass is the one that sustains this structure at the moment. And it is not up to you to decide wether we shouldn't have esports because of this. No one forces you to watch starcraft and complain about it.


It's not just Idra that made 2011 so good though. It was Idra and HuK, Idra and MC, Idra and Boxer, Idra and MKP, Idra and MMA. Watching that video I am reminded of just how much excitement I felt watching that. Truth be told I probably shouldn't say whether I was usually cheering for or against him, but if he leaves starcraft I will absolutely miss him as one of the great entertainers in the game, and frequently one of the great white hopes.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 10 2013 18:27 GMT
#56124
On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished?

That will drop fast.

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.

I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing.


idra hated the game when he was winning too
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Sqorpion
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark384 Posts
May 10 2013 18:32 GMT
#56125
On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:
On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished?

That will drop fast.

On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.

I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing.


idra hated the game when he was winning too


Yeah but that's balance/gameplay I think as the first guy said ^_^
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 10 2013 18:33 GMT
#56126
On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:
On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished?

That will drop fast.

On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.

I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing.


idra hated the game when he was winning too

I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 10 2013 18:45 GMT
#56127
On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:
On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished?

That will drop fast.

On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.

I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing.


idra hated the game when he was winning too

I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops.


he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 18:51:44
May 10 2013 18:49 GMT
#56128
Funny thing is that everything he has complained about has been patched much later on

And you got to respect the man for not wanting to play - as he thought it was retarded - broodlord/infestor super turtle play.


He also praised medivacboost and things like that, I think - in what he was vocal about - it was only mines and the tempest he disliked.



Greg will find a way, he always does
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
LOveRH
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
May 10 2013 18:50 GMT
#56129
Sorry what happened to your team Greg. Don't let it get you down. Everyone makes mistakes, and ill be supporting and watching your games whatever team you decide to go to. <3

xoxo

-Anna
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 10 2013 18:54 GMT
#56130
On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.


Well if sc2 was like BW, trust me the skill gap against the koreans would be huge and almost impossible to win a game. I remember when I was playing iccup the skill gap was superior and that made you scared to play against skillful opponents while in sc2 it's more chill. Idra had a lot of success in the beginning of sc2 and was rated as the best foreigner but he hasn't had the same consistency the last two years so I guess he played it this long because he had a good salary. I don't think he will play much longer if he doesn't find a nice team soon.
MimeTIC
Profile Joined April 2013
Brazil2 Posts
May 10 2013 18:54 GMT
#56131
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Umuryum
Profile Joined February 2012
Turkey35 Posts
May 10 2013 19:02 GMT
#56132
On May 11 2013 03:54 MimeTIC wrote:
thats a fall! i just hope idra don't go work in mcdonalds now, i love eating there...

You know he probably still has a lot of money, and prolly he is going to attend to a college that you probably would not get an acceptance from.

Just sayin'. He is or was a progamer, don't know if he is going to quit, he is not an idiot. His intellectual capacity is higher than yours. Wouldn't be surprised if IdrA would be the one who is ordering you a Big Mac, instead of you ordering him.
Ordunda roach olmaya geldik, Idrajit seninle ölmeye geldik.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 10 2013 19:02 GMT
#56133
On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:
On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished?

That will drop fast.

On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.

I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing.


idra hated the game when he was winning too

I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops.


he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times

So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so.

I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 10 2013 19:07 GMT
#56134
Is whole still around? OP is gona need to be updated :3 !
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
Kallack
Profile Joined September 2012
France3 Posts
May 10 2013 19:09 GMT
#56135
On May 10 2013 20:56 chris2423 wrote:
you know, the funniest part about all this (if we can consider someone getting fired over nothing funny) is that idra's comment was 100% true, to the letter. when the "community" watches streams, they don't do it to see the best players, they do it for entertainment. idra, whitera, catz, dragon, huk, destiny when he used to play, nearly all your most watched streamers haven't won anything in forever. instead, they bring some type of entertainment. Idra just brings the bm/screw everybody entertainment and plays on the fact that his fans for the most part really are a "bunch of fucks" who enjoy watching a guy rage, whine, and tell people to get cancer or something.

so I just checked twitch. highest watched streamer currently is dragon, at 2500 viewers compared to taeja at 1000 viewers. oh look the guy who titles his broadcast "starcraft2 dragon trollgame" gets more viewers than the guy who titles it "liquidtaeja streaming"

like it or not, idra brings the "community" what they want to see, and every once in awhile he's gotta get fired to do it.


Totally agree. Idra created a popular "BM" character in a certain way and sometimes, he pushes the game a little too far... but I think he does it because he knows it brings him viewers.
What he said in his post is true.. because he's the hero SC2 community deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Streamer.

Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
May 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#56136
I love you IdrA.

Just that.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Sqorpion
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark384 Posts
May 10 2013 19:24 GMT
#56137
On May 11 2013 04:22 Junichi wrote:
I love you IdrA.

Just that.


*hug*
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
prettyhatemachine
Profile Joined March 2012
Austria27 Posts
May 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#56138
I still love and support him no matter what he decides to do next. IdrA fighting!
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 10 2013 19:28 GMT
#56139
On May 11 2013 04:02 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 03:45 nkr wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:33 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:27 nkr wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:20 Sqorpion wrote:
On May 11 2013 02:57 Merik wrote:
idra only got like 3 -5 k viewers lately, when he will stream now he will get 20k again, mission accomplished?

That will drop fast.

On May 11 2013 03:11 Bagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 03:03 Chinesewonder wrote:
Anyone know what about the game Idra doesn't like? Balance? Or that it just wasn't fun overall?

I think he hates the fact that it's not as skill based as BW, and inferior players can take games by cheesing/all-inning much easier than they could in BW. A one- or two-base economy is quite easy to manage in SC2, whereas in BW even that took quite a bit of skill to pull off properly.

Then again he would rage against most things in BW too, so I doubt he really *hates* the game. He wouldn't have played it for this long if the did.

I think it's a factor. But mostly I guess it's just losing. Let's be honest, noone likes losing.


idra hated the game when he was winning too

I've watched his stream quite a bit and I can't recall a time where he said "this game is fucking terrible" when he was winning. Mostly it was against protoss players all-inning or terrans getting cheeky with mines/drops.


he has said it plenty of times on talkshows, and people close to him (incontrol) have also stated it several times

So does that mean he hates the game if he's winning? I don't think so.

I think he is fiercely competitive and small things like bad players getting easy wins against him really gets into his head. If he truly hates the game even when the likes of Innovation vs Life are playing, I admire his patience to stick with it for so long.


loving to win and loving the game are two completely different things
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 10 2013 19:36 GMT
#56140
Now that he isn't on EG, can we finally get an Idra flair?
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
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