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On March 07 2012 21:49 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:39 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:37 Azarkon wrote:On March 07 2012 21:36 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:30 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:28 Angelbelow wrote:On March 07 2012 21:20 shell wrote:On March 07 2012 21:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:01 shell wrote:
I'm sad also, i woke up to go to work and remember instantly "shit idra is playing, must watch" and now this.. bah
The thing that makes me sad is that he thinks so highly of himself that it seems like he refuses to learn anything from other players.. Nowadays even his macro seems to lack.
For instance vs nestea he had more drones but nestea always had more units.. Versus feast he tottaly misread the last game and went for a low economy after he held the first push into a roach all-in, by then Feast had a blink army with immortals and idra had roaches and lings lol... It seems like he plays the same shit his being playing since the last 2 years!
Fuck idra just watch DRG, stephano and violet play man.. they aren't gimmicky like you say! They are agressive when they must and passive when they can.. Where doest it say Z have to be reactive? idra is always idra i guess.. but then you are going to keep losing
His mentality is the talk of the town like he see everyday on this fanclub but idra won't ever improve unless he stops thinking others suck and there is only one way to play. People constantly outsmart him because he his predictable and he his easy to influence and play mind games. Idra has the skill but lacks creativity, ingenuity and agressive builds to his play..
Going muta against T every game is not wrong but gives the other player timings that they can explore since he always does the same shit every fucking game...
PS: I might be wrong because i'm not pro player but come one man? There isn't a single player that behaves like idra! People change and evolve their styles.. only idra remais faithfull to one style, a style that is beginning to lose every time He said in interviews that he really really wants to watch drg - Do you even follow idra? Want to watch? He shouldn't want to watch, he should watch or like he is playing now, must watch. Not tomorrow, not next week.. he should watch the day the game happens or the next day This is his job? I have MLG arena ticket+GSL so i can watch every game DRG does and so can idra! How can idra badmouth stephano like he did and then perform like this. He should study Stephano because he is so good, he wins, he plays with his own style and does stuff off the wall.. not just mass muta vs T like idra does since GSL season 1.. He has a loser mentality and i'm saying this because i'm sad and frustrated because i'm a fan.. I buy stuff so that i can see him play because he his my favourite player but he actually doesn't care about his fans and about the game.. Well benfica won last night against Zenit and it's in the quarter finals of champions league and i was in the stadium cheering my favourite team.. atleast this week was not so bad even with good old greg losing again.. I won't stop cheering for greg but I'm starting to cheer for others because idra doesn't want to learn and change When did he bad mouth stephano? I dont think hes ever said anything bad about him. Its either been good or neutral. He said Stephano was bad before he won ipl3. After he won ipl3, idra said that this is stylistic thing and its a matter of time before people start to counter his style. And he continued that quote: Stephano will still be good, but he won't win as much. Which, as we can see from Stephano's experience with Korean terrans, is a pretty accurate statement. Remember when Stephano handily won over MKP? Those times are gone, but he is still considered a top-top foreigner. Stephano has won much, much more than any other foreigner this year. WTF? How is that a relevant response to what I just said? Come on, now. Are you really trying to bring back the "who is the best foreigner" crap into Idra's fan club. Just leave and don't jump into discussions you do not bother to even read. Of course it's relevant. You said that IdrA was right about Stephano not winning as much. Up to that point Stephano only won IPL 3 and some small EU cups. Since then he's won much more. That's a contradiction - IdrA was trying to say that Stephano would do worse than he did once people figured out his style, but Stephano's rise to top foreigner status had just begun when he won IPL 3. IdrA would do well to respect his peers more - because in his current form he is much worse than they are.
He has won 2 scans, the only respectable is the shoutinvi and second place asug rog. Else its always him beating tier 2 foreigners and eventually meeting grubby/mana to take him out like goody always beat cloud.
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Idra has never been a top player , he is good but he got a little lucky in IEM one time that's all he never won anything out of it. It seems he reached his limits , even a Korean trip doesn't make him improve atm. His main problem is i think the mental, the mind.
Anyway i think that he doesn't deserve to win because of his usual bad behavior.
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wow nice idra 
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EGGIdrA
Its mental, I can feel it. Needs to dissappear for a while.
Good thing is his team has always supported him, hopefully theyll continue to do so.
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On March 07 2012 21:50 hyperdemented wrote:
the french stream is streaming idra vs darkforce aswell if you're having problems with imba.tv and dont mind the commentary
Thank you, at least got to watch the end of the game...
Well... next time he'll win...
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Sigh... I don't even want to talk about why he did that.
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On March 07 2012 21:49 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:39 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:37 Azarkon wrote:On March 07 2012 21:36 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:30 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:28 Angelbelow wrote:On March 07 2012 21:20 shell wrote:On March 07 2012 21:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:01 shell wrote:
I'm sad also, i woke up to go to work and remember instantly "shit idra is playing, must watch" and now this.. bah
The thing that makes me sad is that he thinks so highly of himself that it seems like he refuses to learn anything from other players.. Nowadays even his macro seems to lack.
For instance vs nestea he had more drones but nestea always had more units.. Versus feast he tottaly misread the last game and went for a low economy after he held the first push into a roach all-in, by then Feast had a blink army with immortals and idra had roaches and lings lol... It seems like he plays the same shit his being playing since the last 2 years!
Fuck idra just watch DRG, stephano and violet play man.. they aren't gimmicky like you say! They are agressive when they must and passive when they can.. Where doest it say Z have to be reactive? idra is always idra i guess.. but then you are going to keep losing
His mentality is the talk of the town like he see everyday on this fanclub but idra won't ever improve unless he stops thinking others suck and there is only one way to play. People constantly outsmart him because he his predictable and he his easy to influence and play mind games. Idra has the skill but lacks creativity, ingenuity and agressive builds to his play..
Going muta against T every game is not wrong but gives the other player timings that they can explore since he always does the same shit every fucking game...
PS: I might be wrong because i'm not pro player but come one man? There isn't a single player that behaves like idra! People change and evolve their styles.. only idra remais faithfull to one style, a style that is beginning to lose every time He said in interviews that he really really wants to watch drg - Do you even follow idra? Want to watch? He shouldn't want to watch, he should watch or like he is playing now, must watch. Not tomorrow, not next week.. he should watch the day the game happens or the next day This is his job? I have MLG arena ticket+GSL so i can watch every game DRG does and so can idra! How can idra badmouth stephano like he did and then perform like this. He should study Stephano because he is so good, he wins, he plays with his own style and does stuff off the wall.. not just mass muta vs T like idra does since GSL season 1.. He has a loser mentality and i'm saying this because i'm sad and frustrated because i'm a fan.. I buy stuff so that i can see him play because he his my favourite player but he actually doesn't care about his fans and about the game.. Well benfica won last night against Zenit and it's in the quarter finals of champions league and i was in the stadium cheering my favourite team.. atleast this week was not so bad even with good old greg losing again.. I won't stop cheering for greg but I'm starting to cheer for others because idra doesn't want to learn and change When did he bad mouth stephano? I dont think hes ever said anything bad about him. Its either been good or neutral. He said Stephano was bad before he won ipl3. After he won ipl3, idra said that this is stylistic thing and its a matter of time before people start to counter his style. And he continued that quote: Stephano will still be good, but he won't win as much. Which, as we can see from Stephano's experience with Korean terrans, is a pretty accurate statement. Remember when Stephano handily won over MKP? Those times are gone, but he is still considered a top-top foreigner. Stephano has won much, much more than any other foreigner this year. WTF? How is that a relevant response to what I just said? Come on, now. Are you really trying to bring back the "who is the best foreigner" crap into Idra's fan club. Just leave and don't jump into discussions you do not bother to even read. Of course it's relevant. You said that IdrA was right about Stephano not winning as much. Up to that point Stephano only won IPL 3 and some small EU cups. Since then he's won much more. That's a contradiction - IdrA was trying to say that Stephano would do worse than he did once people figured out his style, but Stephano's rise to top foreigner status had just begun when he won IPL 3. IdrA would do well to respect his peers more - because in his current form he is much worse than they are.
I rmb idra did say that stephano is a rare talented player a few times
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2-1 vs darkforce? I didn't catch it? Agh shame, idra going out like grubby and dimaga None of my favourites can catch a brake
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Well, at least his games are entertaining lol. He is becoming more like the type of a entertainer pro gamer like Incontrol
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idra out, alot of toss players left but not enough zergs to keep me interested in this tournament anymore
gotta feel sorry for idra, somethings stopping him from playing his best
keep fighting idra, keep your head up
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On March 07 2012 21:57 Facultyadjutant wrote:2-1 vs darkforce? I didn't catch it? Agh shame, idra going out like grubby and dimaga None of my favourites can catch a brake
Even worse, if he loses 2:0 to supernova, than he has the worst score overall in the entire tournament. And he was in arguably the easiest group...
If he at least would try, but this premature gg's all the time... makes me sad
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On March 07 2012 22:00 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Wow, you want to see a new low in the professionalism in casting, or lack thereof? Check out the imbaTV stream, main guy is blatantly doing drugs on stream.
I think its a waterpipe, which is legal about everywhere in the world and is in no way harmful - atleast I think its waterpipe :3
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On March 07 2012 22:00 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Wow, you want to see a new low in the professionalism in casting, or lack thereof? Check out the imbaTV stream, main guy is blatantly doing drugs on stream.
so what?
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its sad but he will probably go 0-5, worst score in tourney >.<
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Welp, disappointing performance from IdrA but at least PuMa and JYP are still in this.
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I just dont understad the third game against Darkforce...He was definetely behind, but he was not dead by any mean, why not even give a try? ZvZ is a matchup where anything can happen, a single mistake could have changed the game, as we have seen, anything is possible...
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Sorry you got knocked out so early Greg . I have faith in you Greggers! GOGO IDRA FIGHTING!
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On March 07 2012 21:54 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:49 Azarkon wrote:On March 07 2012 21:39 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:37 Azarkon wrote:On March 07 2012 21:36 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:30 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:28 Angelbelow wrote:On March 07 2012 21:20 shell wrote:On March 07 2012 21:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:01 shell wrote:
I'm sad also, i woke up to go to work and remember instantly "shit idra is playing, must watch" and now this.. bah
The thing that makes me sad is that he thinks so highly of himself that it seems like he refuses to learn anything from other players.. Nowadays even his macro seems to lack.
For instance vs nestea he had more drones but nestea always had more units.. Versus feast he tottaly misread the last game and went for a low economy after he held the first push into a roach all-in, by then Feast had a blink army with immortals and idra had roaches and lings lol... It seems like he plays the same shit his being playing since the last 2 years!
Fuck idra just watch DRG, stephano and violet play man.. they aren't gimmicky like you say! They are agressive when they must and passive when they can.. Where doest it say Z have to be reactive? idra is always idra i guess.. but then you are going to keep losing
His mentality is the talk of the town like he see everyday on this fanclub but idra won't ever improve unless he stops thinking others suck and there is only one way to play. People constantly outsmart him because he his predictable and he his easy to influence and play mind games. Idra has the skill but lacks creativity, ingenuity and agressive builds to his play..
Going muta against T every game is not wrong but gives the other player timings that they can explore since he always does the same shit every fucking game...
PS: I might be wrong because i'm not pro player but come one man? There isn't a single player that behaves like idra! People change and evolve their styles.. only idra remais faithfull to one style, a style that is beginning to lose every time He said in interviews that he really really wants to watch drg - Do you even follow idra? Want to watch? He shouldn't want to watch, he should watch or like he is playing now, must watch. Not tomorrow, not next week.. he should watch the day the game happens or the next day This is his job? I have MLG arena ticket+GSL so i can watch every game DRG does and so can idra! How can idra badmouth stephano like he did and then perform like this. He should study Stephano because he is so good, he wins, he plays with his own style and does stuff off the wall.. not just mass muta vs T like idra does since GSL season 1.. He has a loser mentality and i'm saying this because i'm sad and frustrated because i'm a fan.. I buy stuff so that i can see him play because he his my favourite player but he actually doesn't care about his fans and about the game.. Well benfica won last night against Zenit and it's in the quarter finals of champions league and i was in the stadium cheering my favourite team.. atleast this week was not so bad even with good old greg losing again.. I won't stop cheering for greg but I'm starting to cheer for others because idra doesn't want to learn and change When did he bad mouth stephano? I dont think hes ever said anything bad about him. Its either been good or neutral. He said Stephano was bad before he won ipl3. After he won ipl3, idra said that this is stylistic thing and its a matter of time before people start to counter his style. And he continued that quote: Stephano will still be good, but he won't win as much. Which, as we can see from Stephano's experience with Korean terrans, is a pretty accurate statement. Remember when Stephano handily won over MKP? Those times are gone, but he is still considered a top-top foreigner. Stephano has won much, much more than any other foreigner this year. WTF? How is that a relevant response to what I just said? Come on, now. Are you really trying to bring back the "who is the best foreigner" crap into Idra's fan club. Just leave and don't jump into discussions you do not bother to even read. Of course it's relevant. You said that IdrA was right about Stephano not winning as much. Up to that point Stephano only won IPL 3 and some small EU cups. Since then he's won much more. That's a contradiction - IdrA was trying to say that Stephano would do worse than he did once people figured out his style, but Stephano's rise to top foreigner status had just begun when he won IPL 3. IdrA would do well to respect his peers more - because in his current form he is much worse than they are. He has won 2 scans, the only respectable is the shoutinvi and second place asug rog. Else its always him beating tier 2 foreigners and eventually meeting grubby/mana to take him out like goody always beat cloud.
Since IPL 3, Stephano won ESWC, got 2nd place in ASUS, number of invitationals including SCANs and Shoutcrafts, and had a respectable 2-2 result in the Blizzard Cup against the likes of DRG, Hero, and so on. If not for the rise of Polt as a nemesis, he'd have even more wins. His status as the best foreigner has been cemented by the likes of Nestea and MVP, and his skill is unquestioned in a way that few foreigners have ever attained.
The bottom line is that IdrA did not foresee Stephano's rise. He knows it now, I reckon, but back then he was still of the mentality that if he can't win, then no foreigner Zerg can. Since then, we have seen the systematic destruction of that reputation from IdrA, as he is losing games not only to top Koreans but to foreigners that other foreigner Zergs have no problem with.
For IdrA to make a comeback, he needs to shed his presumptions entirely, and go back to the time when he was just one good player among many. To reinvent himself, IdrA needs to first recognize that he doesn't know best, not even among foreigners.
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