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On March 07 2012 21:41 AgentChaos wrote:
anyone has stream lag as well?
:/ yep
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On March 07 2012 21:39 vanhio wrote:
Before IPL3. Are you reading ? After he won that he said its stylistic thing and he will be figured out. Before that he said he was bad.
He was bad before ipl3 - He lost a shitton in teamspeak leagues and just about to every top foreigner, take this shit somewhere else and watch imba.tv for idra vs darkforce
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Bitterdam said that Idra isn't out yet. Idra giving me hope only to crush it again? I like rooting against Idra, because most of the time I'm right, but the inner fan in me wants to be proven wrong. Just like how I don't believe that there's a heaven and I hope to be proven wrong if that even makes sense!
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On March 07 2012 21:36 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:30 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:28 Angelbelow wrote:On March 07 2012 21:20 shell wrote:On March 07 2012 21:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:01 shell wrote:
I'm sad also, i woke up to go to work and remember instantly "shit idra is playing, must watch" and now this.. bah
The thing that makes me sad is that he thinks so highly of himself that it seems like he refuses to learn anything from other players.. Nowadays even his macro seems to lack.
For instance vs nestea he had more drones but nestea always had more units.. Versus feast he tottaly misread the last game and went for a low economy after he held the first push into a roach all-in, by then Feast had a blink army with immortals and idra had roaches and lings lol... It seems like he plays the same shit his being playing since the last 2 years!
Fuck idra just watch DRG, stephano and violet play man.. they aren't gimmicky like you say! They are agressive when they must and passive when they can.. Where doest it say Z have to be reactive? idra is always idra i guess.. but then you are going to keep losing
His mentality is the talk of the town like he see everyday on this fanclub but idra won't ever improve unless he stops thinking others suck and there is only one way to play. People constantly outsmart him because he his predictable and he his easy to influence and play mind games. Idra has the skill but lacks creativity, ingenuity and agressive builds to his play..
Going muta against T every game is not wrong but gives the other player timings that they can explore since he always does the same shit every fucking game...
PS: I might be wrong because i'm not pro player but come one man? There isn't a single player that behaves like idra! People change and evolve their styles.. only idra remais faithfull to one style, a style that is beginning to lose every time He said in interviews that he really really wants to watch drg - Do you even follow idra? Want to watch? He shouldn't want to watch, he should watch or like he is playing now, must watch. Not tomorrow, not next week.. he should watch the day the game happens or the next day This is his job? I have MLG arena ticket+GSL so i can watch every game DRG does and so can idra! How can idra badmouth stephano like he did and then perform like this. He should study Stephano because he is so good, he wins, he plays with his own style and does stuff off the wall.. not just mass muta vs T like idra does since GSL season 1.. He has a loser mentality and i'm saying this because i'm sad and frustrated because i'm a fan.. I buy stuff so that i can see him play because he his my favourite player but he actually doesn't care about his fans and about the game.. Well benfica won last night against Zenit and it's in the quarter finals of champions league and i was in the stadium cheering my favourite team.. atleast this week was not so bad even with good old greg losing again.. I won't stop cheering for greg but I'm starting to cheer for others because idra doesn't want to learn and change When did he bad mouth stephano? I dont think hes ever said anything bad about him. Its either been good or neutral. He said Stephano was bad before he won ipl3. After he won ipl3, idra said that this is stylistic thing and its a matter of time before people start to counter his style. And he continued that quote: Stephano will still be good, but he won't win as much. Which, as we can see from Stephano's experience with Korean terrans, is a pretty accurate statement. Remember when Stephano handily won over MKP? Those times are gone, but he is still considered a top-top foreigner.
well, he is still considered a top-top foreigner because thats what he is. No, he is not the god of sc2 and he doesnt win against every korean, but saying stephano is not a top foreigner because he loses against koreans is stupid, since every other top foreigner loses against koreans as well. That being said, he still has the best winratio against koreans compared to others and even Nestea thinks hes the best foreigner.
I think hes being hyped too much, but that doesnt mean he isnt extremely talented.
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Damn, close game. One bad engagement on that middle area when darkforce was already spread out.
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On March 07 2012 21:42 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:39 vanhio wrote:
Before IPL3. Are you reading ? After he won that he said its stylistic thing and he will be figured out. Before that he said he was bad. He was bad before ipl3 - He lost a shitton in teamspeak leagues and just about to every top foreigner, take this shit somewhere else and watch imba.tv for idra vs darkforce
Makes perfect sense. He is bad, and two weeks after the statment he is bad, he wins ipl. I see ~
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On March 07 2012 21:43 hyperdemented wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:36 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:30 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:28 Angelbelow wrote:On March 07 2012 21:20 shell wrote:On March 07 2012 21:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:01 shell wrote:
I'm sad also, i woke up to go to work and remember instantly "shit idra is playing, must watch" and now this.. bah
The thing that makes me sad is that he thinks so highly of himself that it seems like he refuses to learn anything from other players.. Nowadays even his macro seems to lack.
For instance vs nestea he had more drones but nestea always had more units.. Versus feast he tottaly misread the last game and went for a low economy after he held the first push into a roach all-in, by then Feast had a blink army with immortals and idra had roaches and lings lol... It seems like he plays the same shit his being playing since the last 2 years!
Fuck idra just watch DRG, stephano and violet play man.. they aren't gimmicky like you say! They are agressive when they must and passive when they can.. Where doest it say Z have to be reactive? idra is always idra i guess.. but then you are going to keep losing
His mentality is the talk of the town like he see everyday on this fanclub but idra won't ever improve unless he stops thinking others suck and there is only one way to play. People constantly outsmart him because he his predictable and he his easy to influence and play mind games. Idra has the skill but lacks creativity, ingenuity and agressive builds to his play..
Going muta against T every game is not wrong but gives the other player timings that they can explore since he always does the same shit every fucking game...
PS: I might be wrong because i'm not pro player but come one man? There isn't a single player that behaves like idra! People change and evolve their styles.. only idra remais faithfull to one style, a style that is beginning to lose every time He said in interviews that he really really wants to watch drg - Do you even follow idra? Want to watch? He shouldn't want to watch, he should watch or like he is playing now, must watch. Not tomorrow, not next week.. he should watch the day the game happens or the next day This is his job? I have MLG arena ticket+GSL so i can watch every game DRG does and so can idra! How can idra badmouth stephano like he did and then perform like this. He should study Stephano because he is so good, he wins, he plays with his own style and does stuff off the wall.. not just mass muta vs T like idra does since GSL season 1.. He has a loser mentality and i'm saying this because i'm sad and frustrated because i'm a fan.. I buy stuff so that i can see him play because he his my favourite player but he actually doesn't care about his fans and about the game.. Well benfica won last night against Zenit and it's in the quarter finals of champions league and i was in the stadium cheering my favourite team.. atleast this week was not so bad even with good old greg losing again.. I won't stop cheering for greg but I'm starting to cheer for others because idra doesn't want to learn and change When did he bad mouth stephano? I dont think hes ever said anything bad about him. Its either been good or neutral. He said Stephano was bad before he won ipl3. After he won ipl3, idra said that this is stylistic thing and its a matter of time before people start to counter his style. And he continued that quote: Stephano will still be good, but he won't win as much. Which, as we can see from Stephano's experience with Korean terrans, is a pretty accurate statement. Remember when Stephano handily won over MKP? Those times are gone, but he is still considered a top-top foreigner. well, he is still considered a top-top foreigner because thats what he is. No, he is not the god of sc2 and he doesnt win against every korean, but saying stephano is not a top foreigner because he loses against koreans is stupid, since every other top foreigner loses against koreans as well. That being said, he still has the best winratio against koreans compared to others and even Nestea thinks hes the best foreigner. I think hes being hyped too much, but that doesnt mean he isnt extremely talented.
Stephano played really really really well against Polt like all those games in Assembly were beautiful, he played so well, but Polt was just so freaking good.
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On March 07 2012 21:43 hyperdemented wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:36 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:30 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:28 Angelbelow wrote:On March 07 2012 21:20 shell wrote:On March 07 2012 21:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:01 shell wrote:
I'm sad also, i woke up to go to work and remember instantly "shit idra is playing, must watch" and now this.. bah
The thing that makes me sad is that he thinks so highly of himself that it seems like he refuses to learn anything from other players.. Nowadays even his macro seems to lack.
For instance vs nestea he had more drones but nestea always had more units.. Versus feast he tottaly misread the last game and went for a low economy after he held the first push into a roach all-in, by then Feast had a blink army with immortals and idra had roaches and lings lol... It seems like he plays the same shit his being playing since the last 2 years!
Fuck idra just watch DRG, stephano and violet play man.. they aren't gimmicky like you say! They are agressive when they must and passive when they can.. Where doest it say Z have to be reactive? idra is always idra i guess.. but then you are going to keep losing
His mentality is the talk of the town like he see everyday on this fanclub but idra won't ever improve unless he stops thinking others suck and there is only one way to play. People constantly outsmart him because he his predictable and he his easy to influence and play mind games. Idra has the skill but lacks creativity, ingenuity and agressive builds to his play..
Going muta against T every game is not wrong but gives the other player timings that they can explore since he always does the same shit every fucking game...
PS: I might be wrong because i'm not pro player but come one man? There isn't a single player that behaves like idra! People change and evolve their styles.. only idra remais faithfull to one style, a style that is beginning to lose every time He said in interviews that he really really wants to watch drg - Do you even follow idra? Want to watch? He shouldn't want to watch, he should watch or like he is playing now, must watch. Not tomorrow, not next week.. he should watch the day the game happens or the next day This is his job? I have MLG arena ticket+GSL so i can watch every game DRG does and so can idra! How can idra badmouth stephano like he did and then perform like this. He should study Stephano because he is so good, he wins, he plays with his own style and does stuff off the wall.. not just mass muta vs T like idra does since GSL season 1.. He has a loser mentality and i'm saying this because i'm sad and frustrated because i'm a fan.. I buy stuff so that i can see him play because he his my favourite player but he actually doesn't care about his fans and about the game.. Well benfica won last night against Zenit and it's in the quarter finals of champions league and i was in the stadium cheering my favourite team.. atleast this week was not so bad even with good old greg losing again.. I won't stop cheering for greg but I'm starting to cheer for others because idra doesn't want to learn and change When did he bad mouth stephano? I dont think hes ever said anything bad about him. Its either been good or neutral. He said Stephano was bad before he won ipl3. After he won ipl3, idra said that this is stylistic thing and its a matter of time before people start to counter his style. And he continued that quote: Stephano will still be good, but he won't win as much. Which, as we can see from Stephano's experience with Korean terrans, is a pretty accurate statement. Remember when Stephano handily won over MKP? Those times are gone, but he is still considered a top-top foreigner. well, he is still considered a top-top foreigner because thats what he is. No, he is not the god of sc2 and he doesnt win against every korean, but saying stephano is not a top foreigner because he loses against koreans is stupid, since every other top foreigner loses against koreans as well. That being said, he still has the best winratio against koreans compared to others and even Nestea thinks hes the best foreigner. I think hes being hyped too much, but that doesnt mean he isnt extremely talented.
Good, then you agree with both me and Idra.
On other news... Go, go, IdrA, take down Darkforce.
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On March 07 2012 21:44 vanhio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:42 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:39 vanhio wrote:
Before IPL3. Are you reading ? After he won that he said its stylistic thing and he will be figured out. Before that he said he was bad. He was bad before ipl3 - He lost a shitton in teamspeak leagues and just about to every top foreigner, take this shit somewhere else and watch imba.tv for idra vs darkforce Makes perfect sense. He is bad, and two weeks after the statment he is bad, he wins ipl. I see ~
Yeah - IPL3 was stephano's brakeout tournament, but he was bad before, he lost to a ton of foreigners - just stop being weird
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anyone know where to see the current idra game? stream im watching isn't english
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why are they recording the idra/darkforce match with a potato -_-
its unwatchable
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Why did IdrA decide not to try for GSL again?
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On March 07 2012 21:39 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:37 Azarkon wrote:On March 07 2012 21:36 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 07 2012 21:30 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:28 Angelbelow wrote:On March 07 2012 21:20 shell wrote:On March 07 2012 21:09 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:01 shell wrote:
I'm sad also, i woke up to go to work and remember instantly "shit idra is playing, must watch" and now this.. bah
The thing that makes me sad is that he thinks so highly of himself that it seems like he refuses to learn anything from other players.. Nowadays even his macro seems to lack.
For instance vs nestea he had more drones but nestea always had more units.. Versus feast he tottaly misread the last game and went for a low economy after he held the first push into a roach all-in, by then Feast had a blink army with immortals and idra had roaches and lings lol... It seems like he plays the same shit his being playing since the last 2 years!
Fuck idra just watch DRG, stephano and violet play man.. they aren't gimmicky like you say! They are agressive when they must and passive when they can.. Where doest it say Z have to be reactive? idra is always idra i guess.. but then you are going to keep losing
His mentality is the talk of the town like he see everyday on this fanclub but idra won't ever improve unless he stops thinking others suck and there is only one way to play. People constantly outsmart him because he his predictable and he his easy to influence and play mind games. Idra has the skill but lacks creativity, ingenuity and agressive builds to his play..
Going muta against T every game is not wrong but gives the other player timings that they can explore since he always does the same shit every fucking game...
PS: I might be wrong because i'm not pro player but come one man? There isn't a single player that behaves like idra! People change and evolve their styles.. only idra remais faithfull to one style, a style that is beginning to lose every time He said in interviews that he really really wants to watch drg - Do you even follow idra? Want to watch? He shouldn't want to watch, he should watch or like he is playing now, must watch. Not tomorrow, not next week.. he should watch the day the game happens or the next day This is his job? I have MLG arena ticket+GSL so i can watch every game DRG does and so can idra! How can idra badmouth stephano like he did and then perform like this. He should study Stephano because he is so good, he wins, he plays with his own style and does stuff off the wall.. not just mass muta vs T like idra does since GSL season 1.. He has a loser mentality and i'm saying this because i'm sad and frustrated because i'm a fan.. I buy stuff so that i can see him play because he his my favourite player but he actually doesn't care about his fans and about the game.. Well benfica won last night against Zenit and it's in the quarter finals of champions league and i was in the stadium cheering my favourite team.. atleast this week was not so bad even with good old greg losing again.. I won't stop cheering for greg but I'm starting to cheer for others because idra doesn't want to learn and change When did he bad mouth stephano? I dont think hes ever said anything bad about him. Its either been good or neutral. He said Stephano was bad before he won ipl3. After he won ipl3, idra said that this is stylistic thing and its a matter of time before people start to counter his style. And he continued that quote: Stephano will still be good, but he won't win as much. Which, as we can see from Stephano's experience with Korean terrans, is a pretty accurate statement. Remember when Stephano handily won over MKP? Those times are gone, but he is still considered a top-top foreigner. Stephano has won much, much more than any other foreigner this year. WTF? How is that a relevant response to what I just said? Come on, now. Are you really trying to bring back the "who is the best foreigner" crap into Idra's fan club. Just leave and don't jump into discussions you do not bother to even read.
Of course it's relevant. You said that IdrA was right about Stephano not winning as much. Up to that point Stephano only won IPL 3 and some small EU cups. Since then he's won much more. That's a contradiction - IdrA was trying to say that Stephano would do worse than he did once people figured out his style, but Stephano's rise to top foreigner status had just begun when he won IPL 3.
IdrA would do well to respect his peers more - because in his current form he is much worse than they are.
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the french stream is streaming idra vs darkforce aswell if you're having problems with imba.tv and dont mind the commentary
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my connection atm and can't watch stream :/
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1818978649.png)
edit: it seems to work now, still choppy tho
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Man calm down i'm not comparing or atleast that was not my purpose.
All i'm saying is idra needs to think outside of the box, maybe what he feels it's best it's not that good, maybe he should try other styles.
and BTW stephano is a great player and very entertaining, has won alot more then any foreigner with 2 big wins ESWC, IPL3 and one 2nd place at assembly with polt plus dozens of smaller tournaments.
I feel like greg should be more humble and learn what works.
OH and he was at MLG arena.. he could easily see the games so don't worry about the 20$
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On March 07 2012 21:46 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 21:44 vanhio wrote:On March 07 2012 21:42 Facultyadjutant wrote:On March 07 2012 21:39 vanhio wrote:
Before IPL3. Are you reading ? After he won that he said its stylistic thing and he will be figured out. Before that he said he was bad. He was bad before ipl3 - He lost a shitton in teamspeak leagues and just about to every top foreigner, take this shit somewhere else and watch imba.tv for idra vs darkforce Makes perfect sense. He is bad, and two weeks after the statment he is bad, he wins ipl. I see ~ Yeah - IPL3 was stephano's brakeout tournament, but he was bad before, he lost to a ton of foreigners - just stop being weird
And how he was bad ? Coming from 74 games win streak in EU GM ? That was he first big tournament thats it. Most of the EU sc2 fans knew that stephano was a beast. Many people predict that he will win ipl3.. How come he is bad and so many people were predicting his win ? Get a reality check son.
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oh wow wtf... 
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