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Hyaach
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dont turn away potential fans for ma girls man | ||
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mirai
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DorF
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Do you see his awesomeness now ? | ||
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Katsuge
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LosingID8
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On June 22 2010 21:45 DorF wrote: Needs a T.O.P video Do you see his awesomeness now ? i know this thread moves quickly but try and at least read through the last day or two's worth of material http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009¤tpage=638#12753 | ||
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MorningMusume11
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On June 22 2010 17:26 ThePurist wrote: I see your points and they are totally valid. I'd like to offer a rebuttal to a few of the points you've made. Comparisons Unofficial Time Stamp: I am uninformed as to how the majority of people see it, but (personally speaking) I'd say after the hype of Thunderground EP to currently. He is uncontested currently and many informed people can vouch for that. It is pretty hard to put an exact time stamp but after his Thunderground EP and he gained a lot more exposure to the masses, rather than after dropping his Thunderground Musik album back in 08 or so. JK - I can see to it that he can be regarded as NaDa (longevity+success like you said), but the truth of the matter is, JK is one guy who paved the way for Korean hip-hop. Yes, there were others (DJ DOC et al) but in terms of recognition he takes the title. Original member of the Movement - still strong; didn't bounce like Shine. That is why I made him Boxer. In terms of who is NaDa, I'd say Tablo is NaDa because whatever he makes whether it's actual hip-hop or pop-rap, people gobble that shit up. All day everyday. But there is a definite difference in the level of significance, as JK *made* hip-hop mainstream in Korea. Whereas Tablo is just rocking steady. + Show Spoiler + Dok2 - This kid was pop-rap with Microdot way back when, and they failed miserably. But he got recognized and after hearing this kid flow on his own, veterans admit he's *currently* the best. So after his much-hyped Thunderground EP, people listened to his tracks and say he's the illest (once again, not me). Hence I referred to him as Flash. Difference in opinion There is no right/wrong so just hear me out. I don't tend to put too much value on mainstream success, especially Mnet/MelOn charts just because of the political nature of things (Ex. At one point in time, "All Black" was in the top 10. You and I both know that MicroDot can't rap for shit - Fact: his dad pulled strings for his son to be in the music industry). The charts aren't accurate reflections of skill but just recognizes what's popular. In a way you could say, that is the mark of a champ; but then again you have to realize the conditions of the Pop-centric nature of the Korean music industry. Epik High, Drunken Tiger, Supreme Team, Dynamic Duo, Outsider (the big names) all pretty much sold out once or twice and made pop-rap songs in order to maintain exposure of the masses. They got tight flows, but they still need to get by and market themselves. One could argue Tiger JK being all-time champ sure, but not because the charts say so, but because of the impact he made on Korean hip-hop. But it would be hard to say Dok2 isn't the best currently while receiving so much acknowledgment from fans, hip-hop critics in Korea and peers for his raps (not looks, not instrumentals, just raw verses). I'm not too sure what you meant about "titles". "Titles" in this case would be like overall album sales, chart rankings, general opinion, all mashed into one. This is the type of rebuttal that I was expecting to hear and I agree. Although I still prefer my legends > new school talent  To be honest I think I've been the only one to really endorse Dok2 since he is one of my favorites right now. The one thing that sucks is that unless you're a semi-devoted hip-hop follower, in this generation of K-Pop, you'll never know who he is. | ||
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MorningMusume11
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MrHoon
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DEM LEGZ R JUST AS IMPORTANT AS DEM VOCAL CORDS | ||
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mOnion
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ALBUM CAME OUT ON 21ST AND I CAN'T FIND IT | ||
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Roffles
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On June 23 2010 00:01 MrHoon wrote: HEY MAN DEM LEGZ R JUST AS IMPORTANT AS DEM VOCAL CORDS Sorry Musume. It's all about dem legz. | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
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mirai
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Come on now, don't lie. Poll: How do you troll/lurk this thread? I actually read through the pages. (36) I just check the latest page (5) 41 total votes Your vote: How do you troll/lurk this thread? (Vote): I just check the latest page | ||
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Ixas
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On June 23 2010 00:21 mirai wrote: Just a question. How do you guys troll/lurk this thread? Do you just click on the most recent page and read? Or actually read from where you stopped reading last time (even if it was 10 pages ago)? Come on now, don't lie. + Show Spoiler + read almost everything i guess, isnt too hard when its interesting. | ||
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sung_moon
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althou its not fun being a soshi fan and lurking through here | ||
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NB
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On June 23 2010 00:21 mirai wrote: Just a question. How do you guys troll/lurk this thread? Do you just click on the most recent page and read? Or actually read from where you stopped reading last time (even if it was 10 pages ago)? Come on now, don't lie. Poll: How do you troll/lurk this thread? I actually read through the pages. (36) I just check the latest page (5) 41 total votes Your vote: How do you troll/lurk this thread? (Vote): I just check the latest page i decided not to vote due to the fact that im not trolling and post here at least once per 2 days  btw, do you guys request/mind/etc... if i do a "SNSD's news" once a week? :D i also can try to extend my range to other idol groups as well but im not that into them so unless if you guys really want me to do it :D..... just feel like we need to make this thread stronger than other thread by doing smthing serious u know  | ||
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Roffles
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SKinuh
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On June 23 2010 01:00 Roffles wrote: News is supposed to consist of new headlines covering the topic of choice. SNSD always sucks, so there's never anything new to talk about. Thus, there's no way you can do an "SNSD News" every week. It'd be a blank column after week 1. this | ||
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Katsuge
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On June 22 2010 23:57 MorningMusume11 wrote: No One posted these yet? This is why I like HyoMin, unlike other shallow fans -_- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRyL7ju5A2g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkZLVFS1UFg i jus posted it like 1 page ago. >_> | ||
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SKinuh
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![[image loading]](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4695061698_a4699aa009.jpg) wtf :D + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2560/4056607746_462c210bb0.jpg) | ||
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