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shin_toss

Philippines2589 Posts

May 13 2014 07:30 GMT

#103141

I'm a T-Ara fanboy.. but I think Hyosung wins for me in this solo comebacks. (well not actually the song, both are average singers imo)

Hall0wed

United States8486 Posts

May 13 2014 12:49 GMT

#103142

On May 13 2014 14:08 wei2coolman wrote:

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do they still have strong support though? I've always got the impression (even pre scandal), they always had high digital sales but low super fan support.

T-ara had always done well in the digital department but they also had one of the bigger female fandoms out there (top 3 in the past? off the top of my head idk, f(x) was #2 among girl groups by far in 2013 I think, probably A-Pink #3 but 2012 and before I feel like T-ara might have always been top 3 or 4). They definitely have fallen since their incident but they still are able to go strong. Number 9 was a great song and it did better digitally than I expected even despite their issues. Another thing of note, many people consider Sistar to be among the strongest (top 3 or 4) of girl groups at the moment, but as far as I know T-ara N4's mini-album outsold Sistar's full album in 2013, which is kinda crazy when you think about it.

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

May 13 2014 13:20 GMT

#103143

I don't feel like T-ara is in a bad place. Sure they aren't doing aswell as when they released Lovey Dovey and Day by Day but is anyone really? More competition these days and only so many fans to go around it's bound to spread out more and more. They took a hit after the scandal you can't deny that but Number Nine sold very well. The album for that peaked at #2 on the charts in Korea. Japan is doing decent aswell. Everytime T-ara does something there is always a lot of buzz if you go by article views and stuff.
I don't think T-ara has dropped as much as some music insider people think. You often see those rankings made by people in the industry and I feel like T-ara is way too low. Maybe they don't wanna support T-ara in case it tarnishes their own reputation by praising them I dunno.

For fun I checked Nine Muses album sales since they were ranked in the 4:th tier here: http://www.allkpop.com/article/2014/02/sports-chosun-reveal-their-2014-girl-group-ranking and T-ara is in the 5:th tier according to this.
Nine Muses latest album Wild sold 5600 copies... T-ara sold 41000 copies. Those rankings are just way off in my opinion but it probably creates some "general consensus" among fans while they probably aren't correct which gives the illusion that T-ara is doing worse than they really are. Seriously they placed T-ara with the dead group Wonder Girls, Ladie's Code, AoA and Hello Venus. Let's get real here those are super nugus compared to T-ara.

Another fun example to show the retardness: Sistar is in the 1:st tier ranking and their "Give It To Me" album sold 39000 copies. Which was released just a few months before T-ara's was.
Just checking really quick all the top groups the only ones outselling T-ara(might have missed someone) are SNSD, 2NE1 and f(x). Yet the rankings are totally different. I know the rankings aren't solely based off number of albums sold but rankings like this one is what most fans base their thoughts on when they discuss popularity.

@Hall0wed: T-ara's N4 outsold a lot of stuff

Check here just scroll down to 2013: http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/11780-gaon-chart-physical-sales-all-time-female-groupssoloists-updated-april-2014/

Also note the grand total list after 2014 ^_^

shin_toss

Philippines2589 Posts

May 13 2014 13:56 GMT

#103144

I agree .. they aren't in the good situation as they were before. But I think they're still alright.

Craton

United States17278 Posts

May 13 2014 14:39 GMT

#103145

I think your points are probably accurate about them being portrayed lower than they should be (perhaps intentionally). However, album sales are only one aspect. There are also show appearances, concerts, acting roles, CFs, non-televised venue performances, merchandise, etc. that weigh in to how much money a group is making.

I would expect that T-ara's appearances (at least in Korea) have taken a hit, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're still well ahead of most groups in the other categories.

{ToT}ColmA

Japan3260 Posts

May 13 2014 14:54 GMT

#103146

sold =/ popularity, besides that rankings like that one are just bs anyway so take it either with a huge pile of salt or dont take it at all :x

t-ara is doing okay, people should wonder about how fine other groups are doing right now....glam..hello venus...exid....brave girls...etc etc =(

NicksonReyes

Philippines4431 Posts

May 13 2014 14:56 GMT

#103147

Btw speaking of T-ara, some probably don't know yet that the person who spread the bullying rumors was discovered to be a crazy bitch.

Nesserev

Belgium2760 Posts

May 13 2014 16:05 GMT

#103148

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CobaltBlu

United States919 Posts

May 13 2014 16:44 GMT

#103149

T-ara has probably maintained a good portion of their fanbase but their prestige at large has taken a big hit. If you look at the list of idol activities that Craton posted and then compare what T-ara post scandal has done with Sistar then it is easier to see where the low rankings are coming from.

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

May 13 2014 22:33 GMT

#103150

They definitely have taken a hit, this is from some upcoming bullshit show "Mnet Rude Show" or something not sure what it's called.. My heart

Passerby 1: Feels like she's very rude.
Passerby 2: After that controversy happened, i disliked her.
Passerby 3: A little rude.
Passerby 4: You can feel it when she speaks

shin_toss

Philippines2589 Posts

May 13 2014 22:42 GMT

#103151

wow koreans =_=

Disregard

China10252 Posts

May 13 2014 22:42 GMT

#103152

Well bitches are not there was plenty of visual evidence of the "bullying" scandal. Sorry for all the fanatics, it still exists and will forever be part of T-ara's past but regardless Jiyeon OP

kidleaderr

365 Posts

May 14 2014 00:12 GMT

#103153

Jiyeon needs to use her cyclops eyes on all the haters.

Hall0wed

United States8486 Posts

May 14 2014 02:12 GMT

#103154

Junsu singing a DBSK medley

Way too amazing...

LosingID8

CA10829 Posts

May 14 2014 04:35 GMT

#103155

junsu too good

shin_toss

Philippines2589 Posts

May 14 2014 05:05 GMT

#103156

first contender

and IU tracklist

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Nesserev

Belgium2760 Posts

May 14 2014 05:16 GMT

#103157

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DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

May 14 2014 05:50 GMT

#103158

reminds me of Bomi, has something to do with their mouth/chin area.

The Kara name is nowhere where it used to be but it's still better than trying to debut a new girl group again.

andyrau

13015 Posts

May 14 2014 08:15 GMT

#103159

t-ara is better off after that incident anyways

their releases were generally better following their hiatus, and that's all I really care about.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8809 Posts

May 14 2014 08:58 GMT

#103160

hong ga hye actually got arrested not too long ago for falsely spreading news by acting as a reporter on tv during the sewol tragedy. bitch is cray cray