On November 06 2013 14:55 Requizen wrote:
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Pros: Nari's fun new hair
Cons: Everything else?
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Pros: Nari's fun new hair
Cons: Everything else?
that logo at the end reminds me of starbucks XD
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
November 06 2013 06:02 GMT
#99641
On November 06 2013 14:55 Requizen wrote: + Show Spoiler + Pros: Nari's fun new hair Cons: Everything else? that logo at the end reminds me of starbucks XD | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
November 06 2013 06:14 GMT
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
November 06 2013 06:21 GMT
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
November 06 2013 06:38 GMT
#99644
miss a could ve been better when i put my miss a fanboism aside. the "yeah" part irks me. besides that its an okay song and i heard worse, hoping for the other songs to be good / better. concept looked better in the teasers thou, suzy doesnt really suit that style, jia aint rocking that look either, min on the other hand does. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8842 Posts
November 06 2013 08:02 GMT
#99645
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
November 06 2013 08:34 GMT
#99646
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
November 06 2013 08:45 GMT
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
November 06 2013 09:36 GMT
#99648
Also lol at that San-E: "Where did you sleep last night...? Verbal Jint?" xD pretty funny! | ||
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KimG
Norway88 Posts
November 06 2013 12:47 GMT
#99649
On November 06 2013 12:18 Shock710 wrote: + Show Spoiler + I really love the song, except for the give it to me part. Everything else sounds nice. My thoughts exactly. I like everything except that. I also think the chorus could have been done better, but it's a good song. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
November 06 2013 13:18 GMT
#99650
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zeru
8156 Posts
November 06 2013 16:00 GMT
#99651
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
November 06 2013 16:07 GMT
#99652
On November 06 2013 15:38 {ToT}ColmA wrote: the title is pretty fun when u r eating ._. miss a could ve been better when i put my miss a fanboism aside. the "yeah" part irks me. besides that its an okay song and i heard worse, hoping for the other songs to be good / better. concept looked better in the teasers thou, suzy doesnt really suit that style, jia aint rocking that look either, min on the other hand does. That's because Min is great. I mean, damn. + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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rave[wcr]
United States1166 Posts
November 06 2013 16:22 GMT
#99653
why didnt fiestar make this one the single instead of that other one that sounds like a kids song? also jei is incredible in plaid skirt | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
November 06 2013 17:14 GMT
#99654
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andyrau
13015 Posts
November 06 2013 17:45 GMT
#99655
On November 06 2013 17:02 evilfatsh1t wrote: i think jyp really screwed up with his management of suzy. she isnt miss a suzy anymore, shes just suzy. she doesnt fit in any of miss a's concepts anymore. shes huge outside of miss a and everything, but her presence as a singer is basically dead for me no they pretty much did everything right if she was actually 'Miss A Suzy' then all of her solo promos would be associated with Miss A, which makes it exponentially difficult for advertisement considering it's easier to market a single image than two at once. In the case that Miss A breaks up or has some Kara or T-ara-esque crisis, Suzy's own solo image is largely unaffected by the group's PR. The fact that she has her own public image makes her far more reliable as a cash cow than the group, and it's not like Miss A is going to be a top group anytime soon. The fact that Suzy's in the group gives Miss A that much more relevance. Just imagine if she wasn't even in the group - Miss A would be another b-tier group with a bunch of generic members. It's a win on all angles; great for Suzy herself, good for the group, easy on management, and easy for advertisers. this isn't complicated marketing | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8842 Posts
November 06 2013 17:58 GMT
#99656
On November 07 2013 02:45 andyrau wrote: Show nested quote + On November 06 2013 17:02 evilfatsh1t wrote: i think jyp really screwed up with his management of suzy. she isnt miss a suzy anymore, shes just suzy. she doesnt fit in any of miss a's concepts anymore. shes huge outside of miss a and everything, but her presence as a singer is basically dead for me no they pretty much did everything right if she was actually 'Miss A Suzy' then all of her solo promos would be associated with Miss A, which makes it exponentially difficult for advertisement considering it's easier to market a single image than two at once. In the case that Miss A breaks up or has some Kara or T-ara-esque crisis, Suzy's own solo image is largely unaffected by the group's PR. The fact that she has her own public image makes her far more reliable as a cash cow than the group, and it's not like Miss A is going to be a top group anytime soon. The fact that Suzy's in the group gives Miss A that much more relevance. Just imagine if she wasn't even in the group - Miss A would be another b-tier group with a bunch of generic members. It's a win on all angles; great for Suzy herself, good for the group, easy on management, and easy for advertisers. this isn't complicated marketing this is where youre wrong. its not good for suzy at all. and im not saying the fame and attention shes getting is bad, but the attention fame is misplaced. most people when they think of suzy dont think of the songs her and her group made, they think of the variety shows she came out on her own and the movies shes been in. shes not remembered for being a singer, which is what shes supposed to be. im not saying jyp shouldnt have done it like this, because suzy is obviously one of the biggest figures in korean entertainment now, but you cant help feel sorry for the other members or for suzy herself that her fame doesnt come from what she actually does, which is sing | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
November 06 2013 18:09 GMT
#99657
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andyrau
13015 Posts
November 06 2013 18:16 GMT
#99658
On November 07 2013 02:58 evilfatsh1t wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2013 02:45 andyrau wrote: On November 06 2013 17:02 evilfatsh1t wrote: i think jyp really screwed up with his management of suzy. she isnt miss a suzy anymore, shes just suzy. she doesnt fit in any of miss a's concepts anymore. shes huge outside of miss a and everything, but her presence as a singer is basically dead for me no they pretty much did everything right if she was actually 'Miss A Suzy' then all of her solo promos would be associated with Miss A, which makes it exponentially difficult for advertisement considering it's easier to market a single image than two at once. In the case that Miss A breaks up or has some Kara or T-ara-esque crisis, Suzy's own solo image is largely unaffected by the group's PR. The fact that she has her own public image makes her far more reliable as a cash cow than the group, and it's not like Miss A is going to be a top group anytime soon. The fact that Suzy's in the group gives Miss A that much more relevance. Just imagine if she wasn't even in the group - Miss A would be another b-tier group with a bunch of generic members. It's a win on all angles; great for Suzy herself, good for the group, easy on management, and easy for advertisers. this isn't complicated marketing this is where youre wrong. its not good for suzy at all. and im not saying the fame and attention shes getting is bad, but the attention fame is misplaced. most people when they think of suzy dont think of the songs her and her group made, they think of the variety shows she came out on her own and the movies shes been in. shes not remembered for being a singer, which is what shes supposed to be. im not saying jyp shouldnt have done it like this, because suzy is obviously one of the biggest figures in korean entertainment now, but you cant help feel sorry for the other members or for suzy herself that her fame doesnt come from what she actually does, which is sing ? no, she's an idol not a vocalist, which is pretty multifaceted. why would anybody remember her as a shitty singer when she has so much more? Besides, Fei is the strongest vocalist in Miss A and that's not saying anything at all. Simply because you're an idol doesn't mean you have to sing well, something that's been reiterated in this thread multiple times. Why else would Hara or Hyuna be relevant? People just know Suzy as the 'ideal type girl next door' atm and it doesn't matter if she sings or dances or acts or participates in variety. She just has to sell herself on that point and she gets millions of dollars in cfs, not to mention the adoration of guys and fame that come with the money. If you're not a natural vocalist I have no idea why you would continue to trod a dead-end path when there are so many alternatives to take. also why would you feel sorry for the other members when they're getting a free ride to popularity? Suzy's halo effect gives Miss A much needed attention, and gives the other members a multitude of fans they wouldn't have earned without her. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
November 06 2013 19:04 GMT
#99659
![]() aw yes, mathafacking Hello Venus + Show Spoiler + ![]() ![]() ![]() Yooyoung #1 holy shit so pretty That hair pfuckinggood right now | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8842 Posts
November 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#99660
On November 07 2013 03:16 andyrau wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2013 02:58 evilfatsh1t wrote: On November 07 2013 02:45 andyrau wrote: On November 06 2013 17:02 evilfatsh1t wrote: i think jyp really screwed up with his management of suzy. she isnt miss a suzy anymore, shes just suzy. she doesnt fit in any of miss a's concepts anymore. shes huge outside of miss a and everything, but her presence as a singer is basically dead for me no they pretty much did everything right if she was actually 'Miss A Suzy' then all of her solo promos would be associated with Miss A, which makes it exponentially difficult for advertisement considering it's easier to market a single image than two at once. In the case that Miss A breaks up or has some Kara or T-ara-esque crisis, Suzy's own solo image is largely unaffected by the group's PR. The fact that she has her own public image makes her far more reliable as a cash cow than the group, and it's not like Miss A is going to be a top group anytime soon. The fact that Suzy's in the group gives Miss A that much more relevance. Just imagine if she wasn't even in the group - Miss A would be another b-tier group with a bunch of generic members. It's a win on all angles; great for Suzy herself, good for the group, easy on management, and easy for advertisers. this isn't complicated marketing this is where youre wrong. its not good for suzy at all. and im not saying the fame and attention shes getting is bad, but the attention fame is misplaced. most people when they think of suzy dont think of the songs her and her group made, they think of the variety shows she came out on her own and the movies shes been in. shes not remembered for being a singer, which is what shes supposed to be. im not saying jyp shouldnt have done it like this, because suzy is obviously one of the biggest figures in korean entertainment now, but you cant help feel sorry for the other members or for suzy herself that her fame doesnt come from what she actually does, which is sing ? no, she's an idol not a vocalist, which is pretty multifaceted. why would anybody remember her as a shitty singer when she has so much more? Besides, Fei is the strongest vocalist in Miss A and that's not saying anything at all. Simply because you're an idol doesn't mean you have to sing well, something that's been reiterated in this thread multiple times. Why else would Hara or Hyuna be relevant? People just know Suzy as the 'ideal type girl next door' atm and it doesn't matter if she sings or dances or acts or participates in variety. She just has to sell herself on that point and she gets millions of dollars in cfs, not to mention the adoration of guys and fame that come with the money. If you're not a natural vocalist I have no idea why you would continue to trod a dead-end path when there are so many alternatives to take. also why would you feel sorry for the other members when they're getting a free ride to popularity? Suzy's halo effect gives Miss A much needed attention, and gives the other members a multitude of fans they wouldn't have earned without her. when did i say anything about idols having to be good at singing? im saying its sad that theyre exploiting themselves rather than being famous for what they set out to do. fyi suzy's dream was in fact to be a singer, but shes not famous thanks to miss a, shes famous because of her face. and i dont know about you but id rather work for my fame than get a joyride to success (which btw miss a arent exactly getting much of the fame anyway). must have no self respect for yourselves what i said earlier about being marketed wrong was probably a bad way to put it. obviously in a business sense suzy is a huge success, but if she looked back on this 20-30 years from now suzy herself would probably feel sad that her face was what got made her so successful, not her skills. | ||
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