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andyrau

13015 Posts

March 29 2013 19:02 GMT

#92941

calm down geeklords
music show awards are like those sports trophies you got as a kid. nobody cites them in their resumes.

and to be fair, snsd getting marketed for awards isn't a unique phenomenon, every company does this. on the flip side winning awards off your massive fanbase is kind of a hollow victory in itself.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

March 29 2013 19:03 GMT

#92942

On March 30 2013 03:56 Requizen wrote:

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On March 30 2013 03:47 wei2coolman wrote:

On March 30 2013 03:10 seiferoth10 wrote:

On March 30 2013 03:04 wei2coolman wrote:

On March 30 2013 02:50 Moonwrath wrote:

On March 30 2013 02:09 wei2coolman wrote:

On March 30 2013 01:02 Moonwrath wrote:

On March 30 2013 00:44 Wesso wrote:

On March 30 2013 00:07 Moonwrath wrote:
Lmfao once again broadcast points secure the win on Music Bank. What a joke.

What are broadcast points?

Points awarded for appearing on or having your song played on KBS throughout the week. Basically, your company paying to put you on enough shows to carry you to victory.

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I'm not sure if anyone else is getting the irony. Moonwrath, complaining about a company "paying" for victory.
What's next? Going to start complaining about company outsourcing production of music to outside contractors?

On March 29 2013 21:41 Caprica6 wrote:

On March 29 2013 20:45 Wesso wrote:
G.na so happy with her win! Really nice to see.

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Im happy for GNa! The song is her best so far and well deserved.

Scoring systems of music shows must be really different based on who are in the top...

I wouldn't say it's her best song; but definitely one of my favorite promotional cycle. Pretty nice she also gets Ilhoon to consistently perform with.

I fail to see the irony? All the groups I like don't win based off of broadcast points. As you can see from SNSD's comeback, their broadcast points were not abnormally large compared to the competition, and they sold a lot of albums, both physically and digitally. So kindly shut up unless you know what you are talking about. Keep trying to be an edgy hip poster though. You add so much to this thread with your uninformed "wit".

Your essentially arguing "paying to win" is a bad thing; if anyone is notorious for this, it's SME. Turn a blind eye for SNSD, all you want, but SME pretty much marketed the tits out of SNSD. "paying to win", doesn't apply to just broadcast points, buddy.

So we were talking about broadcast points, but I like how you made the logical leap to "paying to win" just so you could specifically antagonize Moonwrath.

Even if you want to talk about broadcast points, alone. There are times when SNSD scored higher than 4390 points; even during IGAB. So even if you want to talk about G.na's company "paying to win", when essentially, SME has done the exact same thing, to a HIGHER degree (even if it's not deciding factor in "winning" a mubank).

Also where was all the butthurt when CN Blue was rocking like 9k broadcast points for a week and that got them the win?

I'd love to see your sources.

Also, is it be all that surprising when SNSD, THE biggest k-pop group, has higher broadcast numbers than anyone else by a huge margin? Not to mention the fact that you could tell that the G.Na points were completely imbalanced, Busker Busker winning in every other category, I'd love for you to find me an example where SNSD got shat on but carried by broadcast points.

I'll wait.

I'm guessing you ignored this part

(even if it's not deciding factor in "winning" a mubank)

The result has no bearing on the actual action. The fact is, SME does the exact same thing as Cube Ent. in regards to marketing their product. But, somehow G.na is all of a sudden poster boy (girl) of "BROADCAST POINTS ARE SHENANIGANS"

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

March 29 2013 19:06 GMT

#92943

On March 30 2013 04:03 wei2coolman wrote:

Show nested quote +

On March 30 2013 03:56 Requizen wrote:

On March 30 2013 03:47 wei2coolman wrote:

On March 30 2013 03:10 seiferoth10 wrote:

On March 30 2013 03:04 wei2coolman wrote:

On March 30 2013 02:50 Moonwrath wrote:

On March 30 2013 02:09 wei2coolman wrote:

On March 30 2013 01:02 Moonwrath wrote:

On March 30 2013 00:44 Wesso wrote:

On March 30 2013 00:07 Moonwrath wrote:
Lmfao once again broadcast points secure the win on Music Bank. What a joke.

What are broadcast points?

Points awarded for appearing on or having your song played on KBS throughout the week. Basically, your company paying to put you on enough shows to carry you to victory.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 29 2013 21:41 Caprica6 wrote:

On March 29 2013 20:45 Wesso wrote:
G.na so happy with her win! Really nice to see.

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFjlCw5n81s

Im happy for GNa! The song is her best so far and well deserved.

Scoring systems of music shows must be really different based on who are in the top...

I wouldn't say it's her best song; but definitely one of my favorite promotional cycle. Pretty nice she also gets Ilhoon to consistently perform with.

So we were talking about broadcast points, but I like how you made the logical leap to "paying to win" just so you could specifically antagonize Moonwrath.

I'm guessing you ignored this part

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That wasn't even Moon's complaint. He said that it was dumb how G.Na won because of the broadcast points. Look at every other category. Busker Busker clearly should have crushed her, but

"BROADCAST POINTS ARE SHENANIGANS"

You think it's some kind of revelation that SM has wads of cash to throw around and a massive fanbase to pull from? No shit.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

March 29 2013 19:47 GMT

#92944

anyone here using instagramm?

I might be blind but I only created an account to follow taeyeon but know a few others I'd like to follow but I don't find a search function^^ only found taeyeon's account through google search but there has to be a search function in instagramm itself no?^^

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

March 29 2013 19:51 GMT

#92945

Speaking of search functions, did Minus remove theirs? I used to be able to search for whatever but now it seems I can only search for users. Makes it somewhat annoying to find some awesome Kpop walls

Gosi

Sweden9072 Posts

March 29 2013 20:41 GMT

#92946

On March 30 2013 04:47 AsnSensation wrote:
anyone here using instagramm?

I might be blind but I only created an account to follow taeyeon but know a few others I'd like to follow but I don't find a search function^^ only found taeyeon's account through google search but there has to be a search function in instagramm itself no?^^

You can always use http://followgram.me/ otherwise. I know you can search instagram accounts and picture there. You can also download and save the pictures and stuff too if you want.

ASie

United States777 Posts

March 29 2013 22:01 GMT

#92947

On March 29 2013 21:14 Gosi wrote:

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Yay Davichi promoting Turtle!

Waywatcher

Netherlands205 Posts

March 29 2013 22:46 GMT

#92948

I dont listen to kpop much anymore and dont lurk here that often, so dont know how many here check Asianjunkie much, but this article gave me some laughs. The writer made some Game of Throne banners with Kpop theme´s. Definitely the GD, taeyang, snsd and idols banners were pretty good.

Also here one from the comments, which made me laugh hard
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NicksonReyes

Philippines4431 Posts

March 29 2013 23:14 GMT

#92949

For those who care, a bunch of nugus doing harlem shake

LlOoKkIi

Korea (South)473 Posts

March 29 2013 23:21 GMT

#92950

On March 30 2013 07:46 Waywatcher wrote:
I dont listen to kpop much anymore and dont lurk here that often, so dont know how many here check Asianjunkie much, but this article gave me some laughs. The writer made some Game of Throne banners with Kpop theme´s. Definitely the GD, taeyang, snsd and idols banners were pretty good.

Also here one from the comments, which made me laugh hard
+ Show Spoiler +

Oh man, some of those are pretty damn good. THanks for sharing.
My personal favorite:
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{ToT}ColmA

Japan3260 Posts

March 29 2013 23:33 GMT

#92951

davichi is just soooo boring, listen to this instead "oldie" but pretty awesome ~_~

Monocle

United States1509 Posts

March 30 2013 01:44 GMT

#92952

Didn't see the new Ra.D posted yet.

Rest of the mini album:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLANkwO-P3Xt5GLJfhOCrLBd-etNH93srL&feature=view_all

Moonwrath

United States9568 Posts

March 30 2013 04:21 GMT

#92953

Hey kpoppers, I posted my pics of the 2nd best group in kpop, f(x), at SXSW if you wanna check em out

http://moonsoshi9.tistory.com/15

[image loading]

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

March 30 2013 05:02 GMT

#92954

I weep for those silly enough not to click on the link

Logginurkeyz

United States375 Posts

March 30 2013 06:35 GMT

#92955

On March 30 2013 13:21 Moonwrath wrote:
Hey kpoppers, I posted my pics of the 2nd best group in kpop, f(x), at SXSW if you wanna check em out

http://moonsoshi9.tistory.com/15
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Excellent pictures, bro- how close were you to the stage? When I went, some years ago, I had to sit on the bench near the bar cuz I had recently had knee surgery and some drunk kid stole one of my crutches (he got arrested for it)...
Luna and Sulli lookin super nice in your pics =0)

Chesskid1

United States123 Posts

March 30 2013 08:40 GMT

#92956

must of been cool seeing krystal, its almost like seeing an snsd member

Moonwrath

United States9568 Posts

March 30 2013 09:18 GMT

#92957

I was 2 people back from the front of the stage, probably about 7 feet away from them when they were at the front of it. This isn't the first time I've seen them live, but definitely the best, even though it was really short. fan service from Krystal and Luna is an amazing feeling lol.

Doulmaigus

France352 Posts

March 30 2013 13:10 GMT

#92958

Awesome pictures. thanks for sharing!

About f(x) I recently listened to the full Hot Summer album. It's really great imo. And I got surprised when the song Lollipop came up, I didn't expect a featuring with SHINee + Show Spoiler +

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Recently I listened to this song a lot too : Cho PD Feat. Brown Eyed Girls Narsha & JeA - La La Land + Show Spoiler +

. I don't even remember how I found it but I think it's awesome. edit : It was on Dragon's stream.

I wanted to ask, do you guys use any apps for your Kpop?

Qntc.YuMe

United States792 Posts

March 30 2013 14:11 GMT

#92959

I wonder if there are any adorable kpop vods like this

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

March 30 2013 15:01 GMT

#92960

On March 30 2013 23:11 OpTiKDream wrote:
I wonder if there are any adorable kpop vods like this

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvTdIiu63Zg

For Glam in particular (good choice, btw), if you go to their non-Loen channel here: http://www.youtube.com/user/GLAMofficialvideo/videos?view=0 you can find a bunch of behind the scenes and hand-cam videos, lots of which are very entertaining.

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