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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 06 2013 05:04 GMT
#92241
On March 06 2013 13:10 DystopiaX wrote:
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On March 06 2013 13:06 Sovano wrote:
On March 06 2013 05:00 Chesskid1 wrote:
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original version of shinee's dream girl. pretty cool :D

Trouble for SM? Well whatever, I still love Dream Girl.

No, because they most likely bought the rights to the song, same as with most of SM's singles nowadays.

I don't think they even need to buy the rights to the song; couldn't it even be considered a parody? like what Weird Al does? It's more than different enough for SM Ent, to justify it.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 06 2013 05:12 GMT
#92242
I'm pretty sure Weird Al gets permission from all the artists whose songs he parodies; I'm not sure if he needs to though.

And AFAIK they're claiming the song is an original, so to me that seems pretty fucking shady. You can't claim you composed something so eerily similar to another song.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
March 06 2013 05:13 GMT
#92243
There are like a couple notes in the chorus that are similar and that's about it. Hardly enough to call it plagiarism or that they would have to buy any kind of rights.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 06 2013 05:20 GMT
#92244
On March 06 2013 14:12 DystopiaX wrote:
I'm pretty sure Weird Al gets permission from all the artists whose songs he parodies; I'm not sure if he needs to though.

And AFAIK they're claiming the song is an original, so to me that seems pretty fucking shady. You can't claim you composed something so eerily similar to another song.

He doesn't need the permission, he does it out of respect.
Also, plenty of rappers/hiphop artists straight up sample songs, and they claim their work is original.
Imo, it's plenty enough difference for it to be considered original work.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 06 2013 05:21 GMT
#92245
On March 06 2013 14:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 14:12 DystopiaX wrote:
I'm pretty sure Weird Al gets permission from all the artists whose songs he parodies; I'm not sure if he needs to though.

And AFAIK they're claiming the song is an original, so to me that seems pretty fucking shady. You can't claim you composed something so eerily similar to another song.

He doesn't need the permission, he does it out of respect.
Also, plenty of rappers/hiphop artists straight up sample songs, and they claim their work is original.
Imo, it's plenty enough difference for it to be considered original work.

Sampling and straight lifting a song are two different things.

I guess whether or not it's a copy can be debated, but you can't use sampling as evidence that it's not plagiarism.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 05:24:37
March 06 2013 05:24 GMT
#92246
On March 06 2013 14:21 DystopiaX wrote:
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On March 06 2013 14:20 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 06 2013 14:12 DystopiaX wrote:
I'm pretty sure Weird Al gets permission from all the artists whose songs he parodies; I'm not sure if he needs to though.

And AFAIK they're claiming the song is an original, so to me that seems pretty fucking shady. You can't claim you composed something so eerily similar to another song.

He doesn't need the permission, he does it out of respect.
Also, plenty of rappers/hiphop artists straight up sample songs, and they claim their work is original.
Imo, it's plenty enough difference for it to be considered original work.

Sampling and straight lifting a song are two different things.

I guess whether or not it's a copy can be debated, but you can't use sampling as evidence that it's not plagiarism.

I don't know if you can even say it's lifting a song? I'd argue it's more akin to a remix.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 06 2013 05:27 GMT
#92247
My point wasn't that they did lift it, I'm saying if it is plagiarism that's what you'd be looking at, and talking about sampling or whatever is irrelevant.

It's similar enough that I can see the resemblance, but I guess I'd leave the plagiarism or not for the lawyers or whatnot to decide.
unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
March 06 2013 05:28 GMT
#92248
I've wondered about that. I always see Korean artists singing American music. Do they have to pay to do a performance of another's song?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 06 2013 05:31 GMT
#92249
On March 06 2013 14:27 DystopiaX wrote:
My point wasn't that they did lift it, I'm saying if it is plagiarism that's what you'd be looking at, and talking about sampling or whatever is irrelevant.

It's similar enough that I can see the resemblance, but I guess I'd leave the plagiarism or not for the lawyers or whatnot to decide.

I guess it'll vary different from country to country, but as far as I know USA is pretty open to the interpretation of "creativity" in terms of musical work.
liftlift > tsm
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 06:05:48
March 06 2013 06:05 GMT
#92250
International law is pretty nebulous; you can get a way with a lot of stealing. Normally it comes with heavy backlash from the fans in cases where it's actual theft rather than just buying someone's song.
twitch.tv/cratonz
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 06 2013 07:51 GMT
#92251
I'm dying to know what I just watched...
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 11:20:34
March 06 2013 11:20 GMT
#92252
http://www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=talk_tv&wr_id=612665&page=2

she trying to be a zergling?
Commentator
klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
March 06 2013 11:47 GMT
#92253


Didn't really like this song at first but it's pretty fun live. Besides, their dancing doesn't look so pathetic when they are having fun with it instead of trying really hard to look cool like their previous songs.
http://fiddle.se/ - @klogglol
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 06 2013 14:21 GMT
#92254
On March 06 2013 20:20 GTR wrote:
http://www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=talk_tv&wr_id=612665&page=2

she trying to be a zergling?

She's trying to be adorable (and succeeding).
It's your boy Guzma!
Elison
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
111 Posts
March 06 2013 14:37 GMT
#92255
The new D-unit song is great, even better than Missing you. Might have to pay this group more attention in the future.
Love don't hate | Help me identify a song → http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=397170
Doulmaigus
Profile Joined October 2012
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 22:39:13
March 06 2013 15:21 GMT
#92256
[image loading]
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[image loading]

Girl's Day comeback concept!!

And track list for Expectation: + Show Spoiler +
01. Girl’s Day World (Intro)
02. 기대해 (Expectation)
03. I Don’t Mind
04. Easy Go
05. 그녀를 믿지마 (Don’t Trust Her)
06. White Day
07. 어쩜 좋아 (Oh, Great!)
08. 반짝반짝 (Twinkle Twinkle)
09. 한번만 안아줘 (Hug Me Once)
10. Oh! My God!
11. 나를 잊지마요 (Don’t Forget Me)
12. 너 한눈 팔지마! (Don’t Let Your Eyes Wander!) (Remix Club Ver.)
13. 기대해 (Expectation) (MR)
14. White Day (MR)

6 new songs and sexy concept. Hyped! Remember, march 14th =).
I can't believe this is actually their first album in almost 3 years. This better be a hit.

More details : source
edit : Sorry shin_toss ^^.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 15:23:58
March 06 2013 15:22 GMT
#92257
Ooops edit. the guy above me posted the same content few seconds earlier :D

I love GsD's cover :D
AKMU / IU
champinjonen
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden182 Posts
March 06 2013 15:55 GMT
#92258
Yura. Seriously. Hot.

Sad that Jihae isn't with them, anyone know the good reason why she quit?
Not sure how much they work or how much they earn but if you love singing, dancing and attention isn't it like a good job atleast? And Girlsday also have some good songs so me not understand, happy sad day...
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 06 2013 15:55 GMT
#92259
Dead eyes Yura strikes again.
WriterXiao8~~
champinjonen
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden182 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 16:38:45
March 06 2013 16:01 GMT
#92260
She's not amused and is looking for something worthwhile through the sunglasses dude.

Now that I'm googling it, her iris are really dark. And if you try to look deeper into them, like an egg soaring through the sky hoping to become a chicken, you know it's going down.

Here,
(⌐■_■)>⌐■-■
have one before you also fall.
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