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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
August 07 2012 06:14 GMT
#69761
He hates Injung.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
August 07 2012 06:16 GMT
#69762
On August 07 2012 15:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:08 DystopiaX wrote:
Kuja isn't a bad fan, he just doesn't watch terrible variety shows.


WGM is not a variety show -__-. It's reality tv. And it's SO high quality. Or, at least, Jo Kwon pretending to be straight with Ga-In is epically hilarious to me.


I fail to see how WGM is "reality tv" when the entire premise of the show is people pretending to be married.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 07 2012 06:16 GMT
#69763
On August 07 2012 15:16 Monocle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:08 DystopiaX wrote:
Kuja isn't a bad fan, he just doesn't watch terrible variety shows.


WGM is not a variety show -__-. It's reality tv. And it's SO high quality. Or, at least, Jo Kwon pretending to be straight with Ga-In is epically hilarious to me.


I fail to see how WGM is "reality tv" when the entire premise of the show is people pretending to be married.


...Is this a serious post or are you just unfamiliar with the premise of most reality tv shows?
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
August 07 2012 06:17 GMT
#69764
On August 07 2012 15:13 ASie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 14:39 Choubacca wrote:
On August 07 2012 13:11 Pulselol wrote:
Let's rank snsd members:

1. Taeyeon
2. The rest



I 2nd that, sorry but the rest are tied for last

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

(found on google, SOOOO CUUUTE :3 )

What's the main picture in the card from?

@Purpl3: No more Soyeon love in your sig? :p Jung Soojung still good, though.

Krystal overtook #1 spot recently.
And Craton thinks I hate Soyeon for somereason T_T
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:20:42
August 07 2012 06:17 GMT
#69765
On August 07 2012 15:14 Craton wrote:
He hates Injung.

Well that's a sudden change of heart. :p

On August 07 2012 15:17 Purpl3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:13 ASie wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:39 Choubacca wrote:
On August 07 2012 13:11 Pulselol wrote:
Let's rank snsd members:

1. Taeyeon
2. The rest



I 2nd that, sorry but the rest are tied for last

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

(found on google, SOOOO CUUUTE :3 )

What's the main picture in the card from?

@Purpl3: No more Soyeon love in your sig? :p Jung Soojung still good, though.

Krystal overtook #1 spot recently.
And Craton thinks I hate Soyeon for somereason T_T

Ah. I like Krystal, but sometimes she gives off a poor man's Yoona feel.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:27:06
August 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#69766
On August 07 2012 15:08 Jarzai wrote:
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On August 07 2012 14:08 Roffles wrote:
Hi.

Got a bunch of haters on my nuts. The people who don't post frequently love me. All these picture spamming kids and fanboys here hate me though cause I just take a giant dump on their hopes and dreams. The truth hurts and reality really is a bitch.

Thread's garbage now. Literally just a bunch of people turning this into an irc chat room with pic spams and one liners about their lives and random conversations that have nothing to do with the overall topic. Shit gets derailed so fast.

I read and I watch vids to see if there's any substance in here. Occasionally there'll be some, but for the most part just a bunch of garbage in here. Spammed pictures, little content, essentially no discussion. It gets annoying having to sift through pages of stuff just to find maybe one or two posts that contain any worthwhile substance.


I feel like a dolt writing this, but after reading this I feel as if this is partially directed at me, I've spent a lot of time on this thread recently so I constantly reply to random things often with un-insightful comments, sorry about derailing things with all the Twitter talk and starting an SNSD ranking a few pages back. I'll just go ahead and take a break and lurk for a while. Sorry brahs.

You shouldn't take it personally. For one its a Roffles post; and you have to love him for the negative nancy he is. This thread has also evolved, some like what its become and some don't. You shouldn't take Roffles opinion as representing the general consensus of the KMD. Although I adamantly believe that there should be a rule against ranking snsd added to the top (because come-on there are only three that actually matter anyway) its a mistake many have made.

tl;dr its a community, and as long as your not getting modded for it it's most likely fine to do.

@Purpl3 Thanks, it's late.
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:21:58
August 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#69767
Krystal>Yoona anyday you crazy kid?
On August 07 2012 15:20 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:08 Jarzai wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:08 Roffles wrote:
Hi.

Got a bunch of haters on my nuts. The people who don't post frequently love me. All these picture spamming kids and fanboys here hate me though cause I just take a giant dump on their hopes and dreams. The truth hurts and reality really is a bitch.

Thread's garbage now. Literally just a bunch of people turning this into an irc chat room with pic spams and one liners about their lives and random conversations that have nothing to do with the overall topic. Shit gets derailed so fast.

I read and I watch vids to see if there's any substance in here. Occasionally there'll be some, but for the most part just a bunch of garbage in here. Spammed pictures, little content, essentially no discussion. It gets annoying having to sift through pages of stuff just to find maybe one or two posts that contain any worthwhile substance.


I feel like a dolt writing this, but after reading this I feel as if this is partially directed at me, I've spent a lot of time on this thread recently so I constantly reply to random things often with un-insightful comments, sorry about derailing things with all the Twitter talk and starting an SNSD ranking a few pages back. I'll just go ahead and take a break and lurk for a while. Sorry brahs.

You shouldn't take it personally. For one its a Roffles post; and you have to love him for the negative nancy he is. This thread has also evolved, some like what its become and some don't. You shouldn't take Roffles opinion as representing the general consensus of the KMD. Although I adamantly believe that there should be a rule against ranking sone's added to the top (because come-on there are only three that actually matter anyway) its a mistake many have made.

tl;dr its a community, and as long as your not getting modded for it it's most likely fine to do.

Funfact: Sones are the fans. Not the members.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
August 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#69768
On August 07 2012 15:16 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:16 Monocle wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:08 DystopiaX wrote:
Kuja isn't a bad fan, he just doesn't watch terrible variety shows.


WGM is not a variety show -__-. It's reality tv. And it's SO high quality. Or, at least, Jo Kwon pretending to be straight with Ga-In is epically hilarious to me.


I fail to see how WGM is "reality tv" when the entire premise of the show is people pretending to be married.


...Is this a serious post or are you just unfamiliar with the premise of most reality tv shows?

reality and variety are completely different
stop posting like you know everything
You can't fight the feeling.
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
August 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#69769
Well, her #1 bitchface when she doesn't smile or have any expression isn't that pretty to me. When she does smile, she's really pretty, though.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 07 2012 06:29 GMT
#69770
On August 07 2012 15:21 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:16 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:16 Monocle wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:08 DystopiaX wrote:
Kuja isn't a bad fan, he just doesn't watch terrible variety shows.


WGM is not a variety show -__-. It's reality tv. And it's SO high quality. Or, at least, Jo Kwon pretending to be straight with Ga-In is epically hilarious to me.


I fail to see how WGM is "reality tv" when the entire premise of the show is people pretending to be married.


...Is this a serious post or are you just unfamiliar with the premise of most reality tv shows?

reality and variety are completely different
stop posting like you know everything


Wow, scathing Loki. So edgy, so decisive, and so utterly wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_tv#Social_experiment

WGM is a type of reality TV, because it purports to take REAL people and put them into situations. They're not acting out roles. They're being themselves, which can be played out in any manner of scenarios, including artificially constructed ones.

The second most critical factor for qualifying a show as reality TV is an overall narrative arc that spans multiple episodes, character development, change, etc. So that it's got a lot of the qualities of a normal TV drama show, but with real people ostensibly with real feelings, actions, and development. Of course, it's implicit that much of reality tv is staged and scripted, but that's a characteristic shared by all types of reality tv.

A variety show is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_show

AKA, it's a variety of acts, with no real narrative arc spanning multiple episodes, there is no "plot" per se or any requirements for character development. It's set up as a sort of stage for people to come on and show talents, crack jokes, put on amusing acts/performances etc. A completely different animal.

All it takes is a brief application of these two definitions to WGM to understand which category the show falls under.

Or in other words, "Stop posting like you know everything."

Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:33:48
August 07 2012 06:30 GMT
#69771
Regarding BoA lipsync, her first couple performances of Only One were lipsynced, but did nobody watch that MR removed vid I posted of her singing Only One live last week? She is that good, and I don't understand why these netizens are ragging on her for lipsyncing a couple perfs when nearly everyone does it, and she hasn't lipsynced everything.

edit: and on her comeback special show, she slayed her ballads. Netizens be dumb yo.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:35:30
August 07 2012 06:31 GMT
#69772
You're kind of a douche aren't you Stork? I don't care what anyone says WGM is scripted as fuck. It's a variety show not a reality show.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:39:44
August 07 2012 06:34 GMT
#69773
I don't know about you guys, but StorkHwaiting is the #1 in my KMD power rank this week. Damn impressive this past few days. Best poster in KMD. Let's not make him feel ashamed to frequent this thread please.

edit: R O F L
"Start yo" -FlaSh
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 07 2012 06:34 GMT
#69774
On August 07 2012 15:30 Moonwrath wrote:
Regarding BoA lipsync, her first couple performances of Only One were lipsynced, but did nobody watch that MR removed vid I posted of her singing Only One live last week? She is that good, and I don't understand why these netizens are ragging on her for lipsyncing a couple perfs when nearly everyone does it, and she hasn't lipsynced everything.

MR removed doesn't mean shit though. Gone over it before and while it does remove the backing track and shit it's so imperfect that to call it an accurate measure of what a singer sounds like isn't accurate at all.

Netizens are ragging on her because netizens bitch about everything, and because BoA has made her name on being far more talented than everyone else in the industry and her lipsynching/heavy backtracking her song runs contrary to that image. Not that I agree with them or anything.

@Stork- Since you seem fond of using wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Got_Married


We Got Married (Hangul: 우리 결혼했어요) is a South Korean reality variety show, one segment of the Sunday Sunday Night program


And while it may not be the traditional dictionary definition of variety WGM and other shows like it are pretty much always classified as "variety" by this community and every other kpop/kculture forum/community I know of.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:36:04
August 07 2012 06:35 GMT
#69775
On August 07 2012 15:31 Purpl3 wrote:
You're kind of a douche aren't you Stork?

Tainting the name of Stork

Yes, it may be reality TV and technically not a variety show (edit: or it is actually!), but Dystopia is basically correct imho.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 07 2012 06:36 GMT
#69776
On August 07 2012 15:34 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:30 Moonwrath wrote:
Regarding BoA lipsync, her first couple performances of Only One were lipsynced, but did nobody watch that MR removed vid I posted of her singing Only One live last week? She is that good, and I don't understand why these netizens are ragging on her for lipsyncing a couple perfs when nearly everyone does it, and she hasn't lipsynced everything.

MR removed doesn't mean shit though. Gone over it before and while it does remove the backing track and shit it's so imperfect that to call it an accurate measure of what a singer sounds like isn't accurate at all.

Netizens are ragging on her because netizens bitch about everything, and because BoA has made her name on being far more talented than everyone else in the industry and her lipsynching/heavy backtracking her song runs contrary to that image. Not that I agree with them or anything.

@Stork- Since you seem fond of using wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Got_Married


Show nested quote +
We Got Married (Hangul: 우리 결혼했어요) is a South Korean reality variety show, one segment of the Sunday Sunday Night program


And while it may not be the traditional dictionary definition of variety WGM and other shows like it are pretty much always classified as "variety" by this community and every other kpop/kculture forum/community I know of.

Yeah it's not accurate, but it's good enough to show that someone can actually sing well or can't sing at all, which is what these stupid netizens are after. I don't know, it's just weird that it made news when she actually sang live lol. Like did they not even watch her or what?
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:39:30
August 07 2012 06:38 GMT
#69777
To Dystopia: My mistake then. I was approaching it from an American POV, because according to US tv genre divisions, it falls squarely under reality TV. If it's true all Korean shows that include real celebs not acting out fictional roles are called variety shows then I stand corrected.

Edit: TBF, that wiki entry calls WGM a reality variety show, so it's not like I'm way off.

To Purple: It's not douchey to defend yourself when someone's called you out in a nasty sort of way.

To Nickson: Thanks for the kind words, my friend

DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 07 2012 06:39 GMT
#69778
On August 07 2012 15:36 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:34 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:30 Moonwrath wrote:
Regarding BoA lipsync, her first couple performances of Only One were lipsynced, but did nobody watch that MR removed vid I posted of her singing Only One live last week? She is that good, and I don't understand why these netizens are ragging on her for lipsyncing a couple perfs when nearly everyone does it, and she hasn't lipsynced everything.

MR removed doesn't mean shit though. Gone over it before and while it does remove the backing track and shit it's so imperfect that to call it an accurate measure of what a singer sounds like isn't accurate at all.

Netizens are ragging on her because netizens bitch about everything, and because BoA has made her name on being far more talented than everyone else in the industry and her lipsynching/heavy backtracking her song runs contrary to that image. Not that I agree with them or anything.

@Stork- Since you seem fond of using wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Got_Married


We Got Married (Hangul: 우리 결혼했어요) is a South Korean reality variety show, one segment of the Sunday Sunday Night program


And while it may not be the traditional dictionary definition of variety WGM and other shows like it are pretty much always classified as "variety" by this community and every other kpop/kculture forum/community I know of.

Yeah it's not accurate, but it's good enough to show that someone can actually sing well or can't sing at all, which is what these stupid netizens are after. I don't know, it's just weird that it made news when she actually sang live lol. Like did they not even watch her or what?

I don't think the issue is whether or not she's good at singing or not, because everyone knows that she can sing, it's that SM has built their entire marketing campaign/image of BoA as the "queen" of kpop who's more talented at everything than everyone else, and then she went out there and didn't perform her song. It's not a question of talent, it's just contradictory to their image.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:41:22
August 07 2012 06:40 GMT
#69779
warning: really big nana gif.

+ Show Spoiler +
I would have sexual intercourse with Nana in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.

[image loading]
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:43:21
August 07 2012 06:41 GMT
#69780
On August 07 2012 15:35 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:31 Purpl3 wrote:
You're kind of a douche aren't you Stork?

Tainting the name of Stork

Yes, it may be reality TV and technically not a variety show (edit: or it is actually!), but Dystopia is basically correct imho.


LoL how is it tainting Stork's name? You know the Supreme Commander has a reputation for being a douche to other players right? He's gotten a lot of flack for his interviews from fans over the years. Especially when he had that controversy with Kwanro. If you want to talk about it more, feel free to PM me. Don't want to derail thread.

Edit: Purple, you're focusing way too much on the word reality and not how the genre actually functions.
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