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Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 30 2012 09:51 GMT
#67221
Be thankful they don't just post all the time. I can recognise about 99% of regular/semi regular posters. Imaginhe if that weren't the case.

I really hope Hwayoung doesn't rejoin. Not because I don't like her, but because this has gone too far to be forgotten. If she was an outcast before she's going to be hated now. Any solo attempt would probably end badly unless some awesome producer picked her up, which seems unlikely.
Kamatari
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
165 Posts
July 30 2012 09:51 GMT
#67222
steps for t-ara to make a comeback:
1)Admit that they were wrong in a sad way/a public apology(so people forgive them)
2) Make themselves the victim in a way(so we can feel bad for them)
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
July 30 2012 09:51 GMT
#67223
On July 30 2012 18:41 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 18:39 zeru wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:36 DystopiaX wrote:
She has neither the looks nor the talent to be successful solo imo. And people will stop caring about this issue by the time she would come out with a solo release so she couldn't rely on sympathy either.

Pretty much.

Wonder if CCM will finally start listening to t-ara members when they oppose new member additions. Hopefully they do and dani stays away from t-ara and does something else.

Makes you wonder if they're hating on Ahreum too.

Also makes me wonder if Hara and Jing were hated when they joined KARA, same with GsD additions, Chi Chi additions, etc.


Well, after the Hwayoung thing, they are gonna be extra careful if they want to bully a new member. The remaining fans are gonna watch anything closely from now on and any semblance of rejection or mean things towards Ahreum or Dani is gonna be pointed out. If Hwayoung was really bullied, they are not gonna do it again with the new members imo. If they don't like them, they just don't have to be BFF without having to be mean or anything.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
July 30 2012 09:51 GMT
#67224
On July 30 2012 18:50 Jarzai wrote:
Show nested quote +

I swear, every time there's a hate poll or big drama, like a billion no-name, <100 post people suddenly post in this thread with angry opinions. It's like in movies where as soon as one of the main characters decides it's time for an angry mob, a bunch of faceless villagers grab their pitchforks.


I'm sorry if i look like an angry random, I just never have anything to contribute because I'm fairly new to kpop and would look like a dimwit compared to you folk.

he admits his faults, it's okay, you wise up after a while. you'll never learn if you don't make your initial dumb posts and have 2-3 people replying and yelling at you for being dumb.
:)
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2012 09:52 GMT
#67225
On July 30 2012 18:51 PatouPower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 18:41 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:39 zeru wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:36 DystopiaX wrote:
She has neither the looks nor the talent to be successful solo imo. And people will stop caring about this issue by the time she would come out with a solo release so she couldn't rely on sympathy either.

Pretty much.

Wonder if CCM will finally start listening to t-ara members when they oppose new member additions. Hopefully they do and dani stays away from t-ara and does something else.

Makes you wonder if they're hating on Ahreum too.

Also makes me wonder if Hara and Jing were hated when they joined KARA, same with GsD additions, Chi Chi additions, etc.


Well, after the Hwayoung thing, they are gonna be extra careful if they want to bully a new member. The remaining fans are gonna watch anything closely from now on and any semblance of rejection or mean things towards Ahreum or Dani is gonna be pointed out. If Hwayoung was really bullied, they are not gonna do it again with the new members imo. If they don't like them, they just don't have to be BFF without having to be mean or anything.

Can't see them in dorms/house. Which is why I doubt all the gifs of evidence were actually that anyway, because I don't think even idols are dumb enough to commit bullying acts in front of a camera.
Mashes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada441 Posts
July 30 2012 09:54 GMT
#67226
ty guys, KMD is awesome. This is by far the easiest way to keep up with Hwayoung 2012.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 09:55:30
July 30 2012 09:55 GMT
#67227
Some guy from AllKpop just tweeted this:
The Prophet ‏@TheProphetBlog
T-ara's Japanese staff have defended Hwayoung's behavior and basically refuted CCM's claims that she was difficult.

And he is finishing his post so maybe it will go on allkpop
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 09:56:14
July 30 2012 09:55 GMT
#67228
They have probably been given a very sharp addressing to by the boss anyways, cos he should know the group will have no fans left at this rate and people are wanting to find reasons to hate
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
July 30 2012 09:56 GMT
#67229
I think this situation would be great for a T-ara reality show documenting the girl's reconciliation? I think it could really win the public back over.
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 10:00:00
July 30 2012 09:57 GMT
#67230
hwayoung and that's it? I want more drama, might as well enjoy it now, I hope she starts talking and shit hits the fans even if she has to make something up, hahaha.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
July 30 2012 09:58 GMT
#67231
http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/breaking-sm-announced-tiffany-will-leave-snsd.19548/

Jesus the title of that thread on allkpop scared me, so glad it's not serious...

Is there any precedent for artists who got kicked out by one label, signing up with another?
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
July 30 2012 10:00 GMT
#67232
On July 30 2012 18:58 killerdog wrote:
http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/breaking-sm-announced-tiffany-will-leave-snsd.19548/

Jesus the title of that thread on allkpop scared me, so glad it's not serious...

Is there any precedent for artists who got kicked out by one label, signing up with another?

the problem isn't that it doesn't happen, the problem is that hwayoung probably isn't popular or talented enough. who knows though.
:)
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
July 30 2012 10:00 GMT
#67233
On July 30 2012 18:52 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 18:51 PatouPower wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:41 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:39 zeru wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:36 DystopiaX wrote:
She has neither the looks nor the talent to be successful solo imo. And people will stop caring about this issue by the time she would come out with a solo release so she couldn't rely on sympathy either.

Pretty much.

Wonder if CCM will finally start listening to t-ara members when they oppose new member additions. Hopefully they do and dani stays away from t-ara and does something else.

Makes you wonder if they're hating on Ahreum too.

Also makes me wonder if Hara and Jing were hated when they joined KARA, same with GsD additions, Chi Chi additions, etc.


Well, after the Hwayoung thing, they are gonna be extra careful if they want to bully a new member. The remaining fans are gonna watch anything closely from now on and any semblance of rejection or mean things towards Ahreum or Dani is gonna be pointed out. If Hwayoung was really bullied, they are not gonna do it again with the new members imo. If they don't like them, they just don't have to be BFF without having to be mean or anything.

Can't see them in dorms/house. Which is why I doubt all the gifs of evidence were actually that anyway, because I don't think even idols are dumb enough to commit bullying acts in front of a camera.


Although I agree it must be quite easy for them to hide their true feelings in front of the camera since they are trained to do that and be appealing to the public, I doubt you can always do it. If you slip somewhere, even once, the fans will be all over it again. And there's Dani, an untrained 13 years old new "idol". Unless she realllly wants to be a k-pop idol and is able to put a mask 100% of the time in front of the camera, she's never gonna be able to go with it. Even though they are idols, they are human too.

But we don't even know if it's bullying yet, and according to the official announcement it's not. So I hope they don't end up bullying the new members, especially since Ahreum looks like she can be a perfect fit to the group, while Dani is only a child. You must be pretty fucked up to bully a child when you are 20+ years old anyways.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2012 10:00 GMT
#67234
On July 30 2012 18:58 killerdog wrote:
http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/breaking-sm-announced-tiffany-will-leave-snsd.19548/

Jesus the title of that thread on allkpop scared me, so glad it's not serious...

Is there any precedent for artists who got kicked out by one label, signing up with another?

Jay Park got kicked out of 2pm, solo artist now.

I don't know anyone else got kicked per se, JYJ left and is still getting shit from SM, Jiae/Jiwon left before T-ara really debuted for reals and are both doing separate things now (Jiae's new duo Jevice is really great, check them out below)



Features Yura of Girl's Day if you need extra incentive.
tfang
Profile Joined April 2010
United States41 Posts
July 30 2012 10:01 GMT
#67235
On July 30 2012 18:58 killerdog wrote:
http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/breaking-sm-announced-tiffany-will-leave-snsd.19548/

Jesus the title of that thread on allkpop scared me, so glad it's not serious...

Is there any precedent for artists who got kicked out by one label, signing up with another?


yep. park jae bum from JYP to sidus HQ
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 30 2012 10:01 GMT
#67236
On July 30 2012 18:58 killerdog wrote:
http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/breaking-sm-announced-tiffany-will-leave-snsd.19548/

Jesus the title of that thread on allkpop scared me, so glad it's not serious...

Is there any precedent for artists who got kicked out by one label, signing up with another?


Unlikely. Since the contract isnt valid anymore if they break it. But who knows whatever slave shit they have to sign up for
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 30 2012 10:01 GMT
#67237
ROFL that thread's op is so dumb. kudos for managing to bring snsd into this though, but how about we stick on topic.

If that Eunjung apology is legit, I don't see how they can recover from this, especially if Hwayoung tells KKS to piss off and doesn't rejoin (which I hope she doesn't rejoin).
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2012 10:02 GMT
#67238
On July 30 2012 19:00 PatouPower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 18:52 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:51 PatouPower wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:41 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:39 zeru wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:36 DystopiaX wrote:
She has neither the looks nor the talent to be successful solo imo. And people will stop caring about this issue by the time she would come out with a solo release so she couldn't rely on sympathy either.

Pretty much.

Wonder if CCM will finally start listening to t-ara members when they oppose new member additions. Hopefully they do and dani stays away from t-ara and does something else.

Makes you wonder if they're hating on Ahreum too.

Also makes me wonder if Hara and Jing were hated when they joined KARA, same with GsD additions, Chi Chi additions, etc.


Well, after the Hwayoung thing, they are gonna be extra careful if they want to bully a new member. The remaining fans are gonna watch anything closely from now on and any semblance of rejection or mean things towards Ahreum or Dani is gonna be pointed out. If Hwayoung was really bullied, they are not gonna do it again with the new members imo. If they don't like them, they just don't have to be BFF without having to be mean or anything.

Can't see them in dorms/house. Which is why I doubt all the gifs of evidence were actually that anyway, because I don't think even idols are dumb enough to commit bullying acts in front of a camera.


Although I agree it must be quite easy for them to hide their true feelings in front of the camera since they are trained to do that and be appealing to the public, I doubt you can always do it. If you slip somewhere, even once, the fans will be all over it again. And there's Dani, an untrained 13 years old new "idol". Unless she realllly wants to be a k-pop idol and is able to put a mask 100% of the time in front of the camera, she's never gonna be able to go with it. Even though they are idols, they are human too.

But we don't even know if it's bullying yet, and according to the official announcement it's not. So I hope they don't end up bullying the new members, especially since Ahreum looks like she can be a perfect fit to the group, while Dani is only a child. You must be pretty fucked up to bully a child when you are 20+ years old anyways.

Dude it's been almost 2 years and no one knew Hwayoung was supposedly bullied until now. With how many hundreds of other idols in groups right now you don't think there aren't tons of groups that secretly hate each other? I've long since stopped pretending that I know how groups really work behind the scenes.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 30 2012 10:02 GMT
#67239
--- Nuked ---
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
July 30 2012 10:04 GMT
#67240
On July 30 2012 18:52 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 18:51 PatouPower wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:41 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:39 zeru wrote:
On July 30 2012 18:36 DystopiaX wrote:
She has neither the looks nor the talent to be successful solo imo. And people will stop caring about this issue by the time she would come out with a solo release so she couldn't rely on sympathy either.

Pretty much.

Wonder if CCM will finally start listening to t-ara members when they oppose new member additions. Hopefully they do and dani stays away from t-ara and does something else.

Makes you wonder if they're hating on Ahreum too.

Also makes me wonder if Hara and Jing were hated when they joined KARA, same with GsD additions, Chi Chi additions, etc.


Well, after the Hwayoung thing, they are gonna be extra careful if they want to bully a new member. The remaining fans are gonna watch anything closely from now on and any semblance of rejection or mean things towards Ahreum or Dani is gonna be pointed out. If Hwayoung was really bullied, they are not gonna do it again with the new members imo. If they don't like them, they just don't have to be BFF without having to be mean or anything.

Can't see them in dorms/house. Which is why I doubt all the gifs of evidence were actually that anyway, because I don't think even idols are dumb enough to commit bullying acts in front of a camera.


Do they even live in a dorm together? I think I read somewhere that they live alone / with their mothers.

On July 30 2012 18:58 killerdog wrote:
http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/breaking-sm-announced-tiffany-will-leave-snsd.19548/

Jesus the title of that thread on allkpop scared me, so glad it's not serious...

Is there any precedent for artists who got kicked out by one label, signing up with another?


Yeah but it's a good example of how even the most innocent act can be seen as bad
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