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sgxmitchy
Profile Joined January 2012
154 Posts
January 15 2012 07:51 GMT
#44821
Now that I think about it, A Pink is basically just a much better version of SNSD. Here are SNSD and A Pink's debut songs live:




Now compare the two performances and which group performed better? A Pink. Vocally, SNSD is below average because out of nine girls, only one can sing. They also run out of breath and basically have no stamina during lives. Eunji is another tier higher than Taeyeon in singing because she controls her voice much better and Cho Rong/other lead vocalists in A Pink are also better than Jessica/Tiffany/Seohyun. SNSD sort of lucked out by debuting in 2007, which was basically the year that KPOP took off again after its first generation died off with the introduction of Big Bang, WG, KARA, and now SNSD. 'Gee' was also exactly the type of song they needed to reach the top (Almost no vocal, very catchy, basically the quintessential KPOP song). After that, anything they came out with was basically met with zero criticism because they were already known as the top girl group and had created a large enough fanbase that would dictate the public's view of them (although I do consider Genie to be their best song).

This is not supposed to be flame bait, but rather just a comment I have on SNSD and their singing in general. As this is a music discussion thread, this comment should be looked as not a "anti-snsd" post but rather an actual discussion about SNSD.
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
January 15 2012 07:54 GMT
#44822
yeah i think we need to have more discussions about snsd bro
i be that pretty motherfucker
ChinaLifeXXL
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
January 15 2012 07:56 GMT
#44823
Why you gotta make a 4 post alt to shit-sling at snsd
If you can do it; you should do it every time.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 15 2012 07:56 GMT
#44824
You're comparing different "eras".

Kind of hard to compare.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
January 15 2012 07:57 GMT
#44825
Anyone know where to find pictures (not screen caps) from this perf (120101)?
[image loading]

Also, Ram:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
twitch.tv/cratonz
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
January 15 2012 07:58 GMT
#44826
more snsd anything is always good, unless sunny/hyoyeon is involved.
LlOoKkIi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Korea (South)473 Posts
January 15 2012 07:59 GMT
#44827
Although vocally Apink might be better, Into the New World is just a catchier song, that is what snsd is good at put out the catchiest shit they can make and their fans will be eat it up no matter what.
Korean Highschool Exchange Student. Apink's Eunji #1
sgxmitchy
Profile Joined January 2012
154 Posts
January 15 2012 08:01 GMT
#44828
On January 15 2012 16:56 mizU wrote:
You're comparing different "eras".

Kind of hard to compare.

Right. They are different eras. If a group debuts nowadays, people expect everything to be perfect. That's why groups that have succeeded in the past two years practice almost non-stop and perform seemingly flawlessly (boy groups as well). It's why A Pink is, in a technical sense, better than SNSD in all ways. It's unfair to say that you can't compare A Pink to SNSD because they're from different eras just because this current era grooms idols to be better.
Fox116
Profile Joined April 2011
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:18:46
January 15 2012 08:03 GMT
#44829
SBS Inkigayo

Comebacks/Followups

+ Show Spoiler [J-Cera] +


+ Show Spoiler [MBLAQ] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4-TkXGTa5U


+ Show Spoiler [Nine Muses] +


+ Show Spoiler [Sunny Hill] +


Debuts

+ Show Spoiler [Rainbow Pixie] +


Other Performances

+ Show Spoiler [Boyfriend] +


+ Show Spoiler [CHAOS] +


+ Show Spoiler [DaVichi & T-ara] +


+ Show Spoiler [Dynamic Duo] +


+ Show Spoiler [Electroboyz] +


+ Show Spoiler [Fat Cat] +


+ Show Spoiler [Lee Hyun] +


+ Show Spoiler [NS Yoon G] +


+ Show Spoiler [Park Hyun Bin] +


+ Show Spoiler [T-ara] +


+ Show Spoiler [Teen Top] +


Goodbye Stages

+ Show Spoiler [A Pink] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FoEsItRzl8


Winner

+ Show Spoiler [Winner] +
T-ara Wins.


Extras

+ Show Spoiler [Interviews] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EjFt9YiHmY


+ Show Spoiler [MC Cuts] +
Scarabs always going off in my head!
sgxmitchy
Profile Joined January 2012
154 Posts
January 15 2012 08:03 GMT
#44830
On January 15 2012 16:59 LlOoKkIi wrote:
Although vocally Apink might be better, Into the New World is just a catchier song, that is what snsd is good at put out the catchiest shit they can make and their fans will be eat it up no matter what.


Yeah I just made the post to argue the fact that in reality, SNSD is not good vocally (in comparison to other groups ofcourse).
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 15 2012 08:07 GMT
#44831
Not even my job. KJK is rockin up in here, my sub woofer is going crazy for sure.

♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 08:09:15
January 15 2012 08:08 GMT
#44832
On January 15 2012 16:59 LlOoKkIi wrote:
Although vocally Apink might be better, Into the New World is just a catchier song, that is what snsd is good at put out the catchiest shit they can make and their fans will be eat it up no matter what.

that's not a real comparison though. You're saying SM money (hiring/buying best songs)>Apink as girls/performers. Saying someone is better because their label is better is kind of comparing apples and oranges.
Troll alt does make a good point though, vocally Apink is much more well rounded than SNSD in that none of them are terrible singers (eunji's amazing). The era thing does come into play though cause I bet Apink had much more/harsher training and much more pressure to perform, what with all the competition.

Also Radioman busting out that troll MS paint

where's da KJK?

nvm the KJK came while I was typing

edit- oh nice T-ara won. CCM made some bullshit promise about them riding the subway to all their schedules if they did so, would be interesting if it were actually true. And so much worse for them...prolly cuts down on their sleeping time by 80% lol since they can't sleep in public
SGxANyTiME
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
January 15 2012 08:10 GMT
#44833
Favorite part of Coffee House:
[image loading]
Stealin' ur fruit like MKP
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
January 15 2012 08:13 GMT
#44834
I think the MS paint seesaw is a keeper, I'll do some editing for future trolling.
Check out my blog! - http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/radioman
chiwawa
Profile Joined April 2011
330 Posts
January 15 2012 08:14 GMT
#44835
On January 15 2012 17:03 sgxmitchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 16:59 LlOoKkIi wrote:
Although vocally Apink might be better, Into the New World is just a catchier song, that is what snsd is good at put out the catchiest shit they can make and their fans will be eat it up no matter what.


Yeah I just made the post to argue the fact that in reality, SNSD is not good vocally (in comparison to other groups ofcourse).

And in comparison to groups that has been around roughly as long as they they are quite good. If you compare them to After School, Kara, WG and T-ara suddenly they are quite good again.

Their debut stage was also far more demanding than A Pink's was so there's no wonder that they are a bit out of breath. That's probably one of the most demanding female choreo's that we'll ever see. I do agree with you that A Pink got good vocals compared to more or less every group and they do have potential, but it's just not fair comparing groups from different eras.
시카
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 08:18:45
January 15 2012 08:17 GMT
#44836
On January 15 2012 17:07 Hall0wed wrote:
Not even my job. KJK is rockin up in here, my sub woofer is going crazy for sure.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQF_2uduybA


YOU STOLE MY BIT



Have some big bang..fuck I love big bang..
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SGxANyTiME
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 08:21:27
January 15 2012 08:20 GMT
#44837
On January 15 2012 17:14 chiwawa wrote:
And in comparison to groups that has been around roughly as long as they they are quite good. If you compare them to After School, Kara, and WG suddenly they are quite good again.

FTFY

srry, but ya
Stealin' ur fruit like MKP
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 15 2012 08:20 GMT
#44838
On January 15 2012 17:03 Fox116 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
[center]Inkigayo

+ Show Spoiler [Nine Muses] +


+ Show Spoiler [Davichi +T-ara] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLX-ei_1CI



I'm in love with Nine Muse now >< and it's about goddam time T-ara and Davichi performed We Were In Love.
sgxmitchy
Profile Joined January 2012
154 Posts
January 15 2012 08:21 GMT
#44839
On January 15 2012 17:14 chiwawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 17:03 sgxmitchy wrote:
On January 15 2012 16:59 LlOoKkIi wrote:
Although vocally Apink might be better, Into the New World is just a catchier song, that is what snsd is good at put out the catchiest shit they can make and their fans will be eat it up no matter what.


Yeah I just made the post to argue the fact that in reality, SNSD is not good vocally (in comparison to other groups ofcourse).

And in comparison to groups that has been around roughly as long as they they are quite good. If you compare them to After School, Kara, WG and T-ara suddenly they are quite good again.

Their debut stage was also far more demanding than A Pink's was so there's no wonder that they are a bit out of breath. That's probably one of the most demanding female choreo's that we'll ever see. I do agree with you that A Pink got good vocals compared to more or less every group and they do have potential, but it's just not fair comparing groups from different eras.

Personally I think T-ARA produces better songs then them and although Soyeon isn't top 3 vocals, she isn't too far behind Taeyeon if at all. They also have a few singers such as Hyomin and Eunjung that are, in my opinion, better than Tiffany/Jessica. And WG/KARA etc. just proves my point that groups that started in 2007 when KPOP was starting to rise again basically just became so popular that their performance/songs didn't matter (Although there are talented groups such as Big Bang).

I can also agree that SNSD's debut song was more demanding physically, but that's because they weren't formed made to be strong vocally so they balance it with good, tough choreography. If they were to be a strong vocal group, they would have dropped Hyoyeon/Sooyoung (and just about every other member besides Taeyeon and Seohyun).
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
January 15 2012 08:26 GMT
#44840
On January 15 2012 17:03 sgxmitchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 16:59 LlOoKkIi wrote:
Although vocally Apink might be better, Into the New World is just a catchier song, that is what snsd is good at put out the catchiest shit they can make and their fans will be eat it up no matter what.


Yeah I just made the post to argue the fact that in reality, SNSD is not good vocally (in comparison to other groups ofcourse).



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