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KroplaBeskidu
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On January 15 2012 17:14 chiwawa wrote: And in comparison to groups that has been around roughly as long as they they are quite good. If you compare them to After School, Kara, WG and T-ara suddenly they are quite good again. Their debut stage was also far more demanding than A Pink's was so there's no wonder that they are a bit out of breath. That's probably one of the most demanding female choreo's that we'll ever see. I do agree with you that A Pink got good vocals compared to more or less every group and they do have potential, but it's just not fair comparing groups from different eras. pre 2009 groups and post 2009...half the groups you posted came out in the first girl group "rush"- AS, T-ara, came out AFTER SNSD's popularity, so really it's like BEG, WG, and I'd consider BEG to be more talented and WG to be on par if not better...so not really. | ||
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KroplaBeskidu
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On January 15 2012 17:35 DystopiaX wrote: pre 2009 groups and post 2009...half the groups you posted came out in the first girl group "rush"- AS, T-ara, came out AFTER SNSD's popularity, so really it's like BEG, WG, and I'd consider BEG to be more talented and WG to be on par if not better...so not really. by AFTER you mean during, hmm?  and let's just get this straight: who's on the other side of the BEG/WG comparison? SNSD? Well there goes that one year you spent here trying to get street credit, poof! lol | ||
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Skysec
United States164 Posts
Its probably not too fair to compare their debuts since the standards have changed but I wouldn't find it unfair to compare My My to The Boys. You could argue that they're different styles of songs but in the end they're still both girl groups releasing kpop, and there's a clear winner in that fight to me. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On January 15 2012 17:46 KroplaBeskidu wrote: by AFTER you mean during, hmm? and let's just get this straight: who's on the other side of the BEG/WG comparison? SNSD? Well there goes that one year you spent here trying to get street credit, poof! lol I don't even understand your post.. they came out after SNSD came out, and I'd consider the whole "tell me" and "gee" to be a separate "era" than post that, because it's only after that that you get shitloads of girl groups debuting every year as a response to their immense popularity/everyone realizing what a cash cow girl groups are. So yes, T-ara/Apink/AS are in a different "era" because the conditions in which they are preparing for and debuting in are much different than the market that SNSD/WG debuted in. And in context I think it's quite clear that I was comparing BEG/WG/SNSD since you're talking about the same era. I'll ignore the shit about cred cause that's just dumb, I'm here to talk about kpop but I'm not pretending like I'm some kind of expert. edit- ahh I see the confusion, when I typed after SNSD's popularity I meant after they gained MASSIVE popularity, or Gee promotions, which were at the beginning of the year (started January). Based on T-ara interviews most of them joined really late, particularly the Ji Ae/Jiwon replacements, so it's after that boom or as a response to companies seeing how well SNSD/WG are doing. | ||
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SGxANyTiME
United States26 Posts
Its probably not too fair to compare their debuts since the standards have changed but I wouldn't find it unfair to compare My My to The Boys. You could argue that they're different styles of songs but in the end they're still both girl groups releasing kpop, and there's a clear winner in that fight to me. comparing anything to "The Boys" can only result in conflict | ||
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B.I.G.
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On January 15 2012 16:51 sgxmitchy wrote: Now that I think about it, A Pink is basically just a much better version of SNSD. Here are SNSD and A Pink's debut songs live: Now compare the two performances and which group performed better? A Pink. Vocally, SNSD is below average because out of nine girls, only one can sing. They also run out of breath and basically have no stamina during lives. Eunji is another tier higher than Taeyeon in singing because she controls her voice much better and Cho Rong/other lead vocalists in A Pink are also better than Jessica/Tiffany/Seohyun. SNSD sort of lucked out by debuting in 2007, which was basically the year that KPOP took off again after its first generation died off with the introduction of Big Bang, WG, KARA, and now SNSD. 'Gee' was also exactly the type of song they needed to reach the top (Almost no vocal, very catchy, basically the quintessential KPOP song). After that, anything they came out with was basically met with zero criticism because they were already known as the top girl group and had created a large enough fanbase that would dictate the public's view of them (although I do consider Genie to be their best song). This is not supposed to be flame bait, but rather just a comment I have on SNSD and their singing in general. As this is a music discussion thread, this comment should be looked as not a "anti-snsd" post but rather an actual discussion about SNSD. I dont understand why people feel the need to bash like that in general. Serously. Even if SNSD was the worst musical group ever, how the fuck is pointing that stuff out ever gonna make anything better? | ||
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SGxANyTiME
United States26 Posts
On January 15 2012 17:59 B.I.G. wrote: I dont understand why people feel the need to bash like that in general. Serously. Even if SNSD was the worst musical group ever, how the fuck is pointing that stuff out ever gonna make anything better? To be fair, it's not like this is the first time that this has happened to any group, not just SNSD. | ||
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dSoda
United States122 Posts
On January 15 2012 17:20 skyR wrote: I'm in love with Nine Muse now >< and it's about goddam time T-ara and Davichi performed We Were In Love. Nine Muses' performances are so good man. So crisp on everything. | ||
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Illest.
Canada133 Posts
so far what I have: SNSD - Run Devil Run Repackage SNSD - Baby Baby Repackage APink - Seven springs of APink Girl's Day - EveryDay T-ARA - Absolute First Album After School Red and Blue Im waiting for my signed CD for APink Snow Pink. Other groups I listen to are Miss A, 4Minute, Sistar, K-ARA, IU, Secret, Rainbow. Pretty much the basic groups that are out there, still not sure if i could buy male groups, lol but open to opinions Thanks! | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Pulselol
Canada1628 Posts
Has anybody ever considered that some people prefer a certain idol'(s) voice(s)? There's literally nothing you can do to change their opinions, and it's the way it is. You can argue "oh but ______ can project his/her voice further than _______, etc - at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you enjoy the music being pushed out of the industry. + Show Spoiler + Have anybody tried not listening to the groups that you don't like? I hear it helps. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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Pulselol
Canada1628 Posts
On January 15 2012 18:45 DystopiaX wrote: I think you're posting in the wrong thread; this is the Korean Music Discussion. We like yelling at other people about our opinions. Oh true, I apologize. Here, have some IU: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DMnlJ.jpg) | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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stablol
United States82 Posts
On January 15 2012 18:49 DystopiaX wrote: camera...too close...to face be quiet  On January 15 2012 18:42 Pulselol wrote: The fact that people are comparing HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE topics (i.e. WHICH GROUP IS BETTER IN TERMS OF VOCAL POWER) is actually ridiculous. Has anybody ever considered that some people prefer a certain idol'(s) voice(s)? There's literally nothing you can do to change their opinions, and it's the way it is. You can argue "oh but ______ can project his/her voice further than _______, etc - at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you enjoy the music being pushed out of the industry. + Show Spoiler + Have anybody tried not listening to the groups that you don't like? I hear it helps. except for in cases like boa where shes clearly 100% vocally better than snsd  | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
just realized lol | ||
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stablol
United States82 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
I usually don't do it on public message boards though | ||
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stablol
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