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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 05:29:44
November 16 2011 05:28 GMT
#37961
^Maybe it's cause I never really listened to alot of Jpop but I don't really see how kpop is much different other than the language.

edit- haven't seen kmk here in awhile
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51485 Posts
November 16 2011 05:37 GMT
#37962
*raises hand, guilty of fatfany's eyewinks in tell me*
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 06:08:00
November 16 2011 05:41 GMT
#37963
On November 16 2011 14:27 Ruffian wrote:
Haha I used to be really into anime themes/j-pop/rock and all that. So glad I "converted" to k-pop. Me and my friend like to refer to that time period as the "barney music days." I honestly can't really listen to Japanese music anymore with the exception of like 3 songs >.<


ya srsly, the only ones I even bother looking up anymore is dir en grey and gazette. but gazette hasn't been good in a long time. I can't stand J-music anymore.


On November 16 2011 14:28 DystopiaX wrote:
^Maybe it's cause I never really listened to alot of Jpop but I don't really see how kpop is much different other than the language.


The Japanese music industry is stagnant, at least the idol groups. There hasn't been any evolution from the nineties. If you compare the majority (it might just be all) of AKB48, or Morning Musume songs to something like Genie or Run Devil Run then you'll notice a huge difference in the type of beats.

In the industries, comparatively we have Jessica, who has went through 7 (I believe) years of training to finally debut in SNSD (The least trained was still a trainee for 3 years.), and we have AKB48, who went through 1 month of training to debut. Korean groups go through rigorous testing, physically and mentally, when they debut they are literally perfection. Japanese groups don't get too much of that, so they're more bound to mess up, or be uncoordinated. Which is a cute thing to a lot of Japanese men, Kawaii factor too big.
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chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
November 16 2011 05:50 GMT
#37964
On November 16 2011 14:28 DystopiaX wrote:
^Maybe it's cause I never really listened to alot of Jpop but I don't really see how kpop is much different other than the language.

edit- haven't seen kmk here in awhile
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A lot of popular Japanese vocalists have a really prominent and distinct vocal style that sounds like they're crying and throwing up.

The girl seiyuus and idols sound like nasally 8 year olds.

K-pop is just a lot closer to typical pop conventions set by American pop culture.
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Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 06:00:10
November 16 2011 05:54 GMT
#37965
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCcA3f9wYvk
Love is more fun than hate.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 06:07:20
November 16 2011 06:00 GMT
#37966
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Also Chenchen, kindly spoiler large quotes images, they clutter up the thread if not.

And my god, Japanese Mach is so good, you know the outfits and shit.
WriterXiao8~~
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 16 2011 06:05 GMT
#37967
Mach PV good. Soyeon looks the best out of those pics, Qri second. Wish Jiyeon wouldn't wear the bieber wig for the actual performances, but it looks like she will now based on all the promos and stuff.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
November 16 2011 06:12 GMT
#37968
Been waiting sooo long for Mach PV.
Everyday Girl's Day~!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 06:13:47
November 16 2011 06:13 GMT
#37969
On November 16 2011 14:28 DystopiaX wrote:
^Maybe it's cause I never really listened to alot of Jpop but I don't really see how kpop is much different other than the language.

edit- haven't seen kmk here in awhile


jpop is a lot more "techno-y", as in they draw a lot more influences from that genre.

>lack of minkyung
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 06:15:06
November 16 2011 06:14 GMT
#37970
kmk really reminds me of lydia paek... sorta?
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
November 16 2011 06:15 GMT
#37971
I think Rainbow's songs are a much better translation into the Japanese market than any of the other recent moves over, Mach fits pretty naturally with a lot of Jpop as a first impression. Of course that doesn't say anything about the quality but still
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
November 16 2011 06:21 GMT
#37972
Man I'm a bit behind but Cry Cry MV+choreo was epic. Best comeback this year definitely. Assuming it goes well live, it would definitely compete against TTL as my favorite T-ara song. So pumped for their comeback.

My first girl was Kahi from this video. The outfit, the dance, dem abzz...


It's funny because I followed kpop back around Kim gunmo (whom I still love) but I never got into girl groups until the above video. After that, it's like I saw the light because I went back to watch Gee (which I had seen when it first came out and thought meh) and it was glorious.

Now, Tiffany #1, Taeyeon close 2nd ^^
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Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 16 2011 06:47 GMT
#37973
Good stuff. Is rainbow the "sexiest" group in kpop right now or something (even though it seems like the bring it out more for the japanese scene).

Sex sells I geuss.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 16 2011 06:58 GMT
#37974
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soyeon~~
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seumdwa
Profile Joined June 2011
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 07:34:05
November 16 2011 07:19 GMT
#37975
On November 16 2011 15:15 Taku wrote:
I think Rainbow's songs are a much better translation into the Japanese market than any of the other recent moves over, Mach fits pretty naturally with a lot of Jpop as a first impression. Of course that doesn't say anything about the quality but still

I felt Mach sounded alright with the transition to jpop until I heard Woori rapping in Japanese towards the end. Totally ruined it for me. T_T

As for what brought me into kpop, I started listening to BoA around 2002-2003. Never really got into kpop as a whole, but I liked BoA's stuff. Fast forward to summer of 2009, I see SNSD's Gee music video randomly posted on some website, and thought wtf is this shit, 9 girls? Then towards end of 2009/beginning 2010 I randomly come across Taeyeon in WGM. The rest is the story is the usual kpop conversion and I settled on Jessica as my favorite. I don't really remember why I picked Jessica as my favorite in the first place. Probably had something to do with her singing an English song.
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 07:23:34
November 16 2011 07:21 GMT
#37976
Where did the Tara shots come from?
Great Rainbow song btw

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soyeon~~


I <3 Soyeon!!!
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 16 2011 07:22 GMT
#37977
On November 16 2011 16:21 NationInArms wrote:
Where did the Tara shots come from?
Great Rainbow song btw


T-ara dance MV for Cry Cry, it is being released tomorrow afaik.
WriterXiao8~~
Skysec
Profile Joined August 2010
United States164 Posts
November 16 2011 07:23 GMT
#37978
"Nobody" is what brought me into the kpop world, but I don't think I really started following other kpop groups until I saw "Gee" and "Genie". My favorites have shifted around a bit but the first Idol I really liked was Sunye. I thought her voice was so good from everything I listened to.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 07:29:13
November 16 2011 07:28 GMT
#37979


This started it all for me

Edit: ironic, isn't it (not this particular video though, just the song).
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 07:47:08
November 16 2011 07:36 GMT
#37980
On November 16 2011 14:41 Ym1r wrote:
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On November 16 2011 14:27 Ruffian wrote:
Haha I used to be really into anime themes/j-pop/rock and all that. So glad I "converted" to k-pop. Me and my friend like to refer to that time period as the "barney music days." I honestly can't really listen to Japanese music anymore with the exception of like 3 songs >.<


ya srsly, the only ones I even bother looking up anymore is dir en grey and gazette. but gazette hasn't been good in a long time. I can't stand J-music anymore.


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On November 16 2011 14:28 DystopiaX wrote:
^Maybe it's cause I never really listened to alot of Jpop but I don't really see how kpop is much different other than the language.


The Japanese music industry is stagnant, at least the idol groups. There hasn't been any evolution from the nineties. If you compare the majority (it might just be all) of AKB48, or Morning Musume songs to something like Genie or Run Devil Run then you'll notice a huge difference in the type of beats.

In the industries, comparatively we have Jessica, who has went through 7 (I believe) years of training to finally debut in SNSD (The least trained was still a trainee for 3 years.), and we have AKB48, who went through 1 month of training to debut. Korean groups go through rigorous testing, physically and mentally, when they debut they are literally perfection. Japanese groups don't get too much of that, so they're more bound to mess up, or be uncoordinated. Which is a cute thing to a lot of Japanese men, Kawaii factor too big.


Well according to the Korean definition of an "idol group", groups like Happiness, BRIGHT, and AAA would be considered idols as well, and I'm sure those three groups have as just as much talent and performing capability if not more than what's out there in K-Pop. At least in J-Pop there's a relatively much clearer definition of what an idol group is and isn't. It's bad when within the industry Davichi and 2AM are considered idols. The day IU was considered an idol... ugh.

At the very least, it's not inconceivable if someone like Ken Hirai, Miliyah Kato, flumpool, or Yui get #1 on the weekly Oricon chart. Hell, there's even room in the Japanese market that an unappreciated idol group like SuperNova can achieve great success.

Btw, this is what started K-Pop for me, still can't believe Koreans are still using their national pride to still condemn him because of US citizenship, whatever the timing of getting it was. Pretty disgraceful considering someone like Kang Ho Dong can come back in like 5 yrs maybe and act like his tax evasion bullshit didn't happen at all. No one in K-Pop past or present could match YSJ's overall performing skills.
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