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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
December 16 2009 11:14 GMT
#2801
damn indians dont understand our kpop.
Commentator
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
December 16 2009 11:17 GMT
#2802
Dropped the balls............. R.I.P channel
Tear(
Profile Joined December 2009
United States5 Posts
December 16 2009 12:05 GMT
#2803
[image loading]


Please respect girl's generation.
easy
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 16 2009 12:18 GMT
#2804
Tiffany is a fatty
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
December 16 2009 12:31 GMT
#2805
omg look how ugly yuri is
You can't fight the feeling.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 16 2009 12:37 GMT
#2806
On December 16 2009 21:31 lokiM wrote:
omg look how ugly yuri is

Are you tripping?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 16 2009 12:40 GMT
#2807
On December 16 2009 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 21:31 lokiM wrote:
omg look how ugly yuri is

Are you tripping?

prob just a troll
© Current year.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
December 16 2009 12:47 GMT
#2808
which one is yuri, they all look pretty good to me
HEY MEYT
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
December 16 2009 12:58 GMT
#2809
On December 16 2009 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 21:31 lokiM wrote:
omg look how ugly yuri is

Are you tripping?

i thought u were trolling?
so i was just fueling it
You can't fight the feeling.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 16 2009 14:46 GMT
#2810
On December 16 2009 21:47 JohnColtrane wrote:
which one is yuri, they all look pretty good to me


First one from the left
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
December 16 2009 15:27 GMT
#2811
On December 16 2009 21:58 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 16 2009 21:31 lokiM wrote:
omg look how ugly yuri is

Are you tripping?

i thought u were trolling?
so i was just fueling it

the sad truth is TOP isnt joking Fany is fat
Thailand is my new obsession
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
December 16 2009 15:35 GMT
#2812
how is fany fat?
You can't fight the feeling.
TS-Rupbar
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden1089 Posts
December 16 2009 15:51 GMT
#2813
What's so interesting about music in a language you can't understand? -_-
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 16 2009 15:56 GMT
#2814
what's so interesting about korean language you can't understand? -_-
dats racist
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
December 16 2009 16:01 GMT
#2815
On December 17 2009 00:51 TS-Rupbar wrote:
What's so interesting about music in a language you can't understand? -_-

lol this is 1 of the dumbest posts ive seen against kpop
do I have to know Italian to enjoy pavarotti? no
fuck you
You can't fight the feeling.
TS-Rupbar
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden1089 Posts
December 16 2009 16:33 GMT
#2816
What is it that makes Korean pop music more interesting than American/European with English lyrics? I'm sorry I came off as an asshole in the last post. I see that I worded it badly, but it wasn't my intention. This question is something I'm honestly wondering about.
p53
Profile Joined September 2009
297 Posts
December 16 2009 17:33 GMT
#2817
They look like Morning Musume. in that picture
rinoh
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States335 Posts
December 16 2009 18:12 GMT
#2818
On December 17 2009 01:33 TS-Rupbar wrote:
What is it that makes Korean pop music more interesting than American/European with English lyrics? I'm sorry I came off as an asshole in the last post. I see that I worded it badly, but it wasn't my intention. This question is something I'm honestly wondering about.


What people don't get is that Korean pop stars aren't just about music. They are everywhere in Korea. Artists are very idolized and you get to see them on TV all the time in commercials, dramas, and reality shows. Some of the artists are just hilarious on these shows and you like the music even if its not amazing because you like the artist.

And why is there some competition between Korean pop and American/European pop? They are two different markets targeting different people. Why is it such a crime to listen to both or one over the other? We don't have to try and make you understand why we like Korean pop. Why do you want to understand? Either you like it or you don't...Why do you even care that we like Korean pop?
베르사유의 장미
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 16 2009 18:19 GMT
#2819
On December 17 2009 01:01 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 00:51 TS-Rupbar wrote:
What's so interesting about music in a language you can't understand? -_-

lol this is 1 of the dumbest posts ive seen against kpop
do I have to know Italian to enjoy pavarotti? no
fuck you

Not to mention there are people in this thread who do understand Korean?

lol
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 18:24:45
December 16 2009 18:22 GMT
#2820
On December 11 2009 19:28 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2009 17:42 JohnColtrane wrote:
On December 11 2009 16:54 StarBrift wrote:
I can't believe so many people i this thread is discussing this as if it was actual music. THe thread started out hillariously (and rightfully) about how extremely bad K-pop is in all aspects. Atleast the music that mainstream korean idiot kids listen to.

Korea has had alot of good singers in the past but none of them bitched out and went for this plastic fake fucking shit. A lot of male singers doing ballads whom I can not name and Younha come to mind. It's still pop music but it's not "Act like a disoriented idiotic 14 year old girl and giggle your way through music videos" style.

This thread really confirms my theory that about 90% of people do not hear music as the rest of us. They just listen to it do be cool. What makes them cool is different based on where they come from and in which clicks they hang out. Basically 90% of people are posers.


what do you listen to


That's what I'm interested in since it is apparently superior to every single Korean young person's taste and 90% of the world's populations' preferences as well. HOSHIT. Only 10% of the world has the 'correct' listening skills to appreciate 'real' music. We must look to our new musical savior Starbrift to tell us how to reform our terrible poser habits of liking music that deviates from his personal taste. What happened to the joy of finding a new genre that you enjoy? Does one's personal evolution in musical taste/exposure immediately make a person a 'poser'? If so then I am one of the biggest posers on the planet. Heaven help music journalists....

Also it's 'hilariously' and 'cliques' - if you're going to be a condescending ass-hat/our musical redeemer then at least try and spell your narrow-minded ramblings correctly. Only being able to name drop a single artist implies that really Starbrift hasn't got the slightest clue what he's going on about in terms of the diversity of Korean music. From the more traditional genres such as Trot which are aimed at the senior generations to the globalizing influence of modern Hip Hop acts such as Epik High who are breaking down the boundaries of nationality and distance with projects like Map the Soul.

Basically if you don't like Korean music then don't post in this thread - stop raining on peoples' perfectly valid parade. We don't want your negativity.

One last thing - I've been a teacher of those so-called 'idiotic' Korean children and the majority of the ones I've come into contact through my profession have been sweet, caring and wonderful individuals. Their musical taste has no bearing on their levels of intelligence whatsoever. However, Starbrift's comments definitely seem to indicate he is lacking in certain areas such as tolerance and the notion of individuality in relation to musical (or otherwise.) inclinations.

(Hoo boy, scathing rants are pleasurable to write at times...)


In all fairness I was raging when I wrote my last post because I was banned from a starcraft stream earlier when pointing out (in a respectable way btw) that alot of people on the stream doesn't like K-pop and additionally that he might get banned if they continuously pump copyrighted material on their streams (this wasn't Solinren btw). oh the Irony. So yes my post was extreme and it doesn't really reflect what I think about K-pop or the people listening to it. But it's very obvious that I've struck a nerve here. You went straight into defensive mode and totally missed the point of my post.

The point being that when you listen to music because it makes you feel cool or it makes you part of a group of people then you are not listening to the music, you are signing up for a social network. A lot of people listen to music like this. It's the same thing as a large portion of black teenargers from urban areas listening to rap and young teen girls from the suburbs listening to pop music or young gamer guys blasting death metal to be anti mainstream. Alot of people listen to it just to be cool or part of a social group. This also happens all around the world. Even here in Sweden there are bandwagon mainstream music that kids listen to just because they are bombarded with it.

In my opinion this is all due to lack of variety in music. People around you tell you that one type of music is the best so you only listen to that. You don't even give other music a chance. As soon as you hear something else it's either uncool or boring. People often likes to think about their own life as being 100% chosen by themselves but in terms of music their culture chose for them, atleast for young people following the norm.

My beef with K-pop is that it's the lowest form of music. It's a product with fake vocals and bad dancing. Not unlike the talent shows from my early school years when 10 year old girls would dance the macarena and similar beginner class dances. This I think is the main point of why alot of K-pop is so bad. Everything from the vocals to the actual performances can be duplicated by just about any person in the stadium after maybe a week or rehearsing. Atleast when Christina aguilera disguists me with her happy pop and girlpower lyrics she's got one hell of a pipe to back it up. What do these girl bands have? Absolutely nothing. They are pretty young girls with no apparent singing or dancing talent. Put them in a different society and they won't be stars in a million years. Because they don't have any remarkable talent.

Obviously there is good korean music out there and especially very good korean vocals. Some of the singers in K-pop girl bands are even decent but then you have the other 5 who has 0 talent. If you don't understand what pisses me off about people with low talent getting famous and respected for musical accomplishments then I am at a loss for words. And yes I'm obviously aware that this shithole of a downwards spiral is taking place in alot of countries around the world.

As for my musical taste. I don't listen to genres so sorry I can't give you any advice on how to rip my musical taste apart. I listen to mostly 70s/ 80s / 90s music atm (the days when people still sang live and did it well).

Don't quite know what to say about you pointing out my spelling errors. I don't know if you're aware of this but the first language of people from Sweden is swedish, not english. I will take that criticism seriously the day you can write a full post in swedish without any mistakes in the grammar.
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