James Cameron's AVATAR series - Page 30

On December 23 2009 08:43 Famehunter wrote:


Maybe in your own little imaginary wolrd this is how the future will be but the reality of things is that most "good" movies theese days are made with a low budget and dont need the high tech that you seem to think will make a revolution.

On December 23 2009 10:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I think people are being overcritical of the plot. It's fine if you don't like it though because the majority of people (including critics) do. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but the people saying the plot is unrealistic are just being overly picky.

On December 23 2009 00:33 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I watched it a lot. To respond to what Tal said earlier, I think that when it comes to representing a naturalistic feel, African culture is usually the best there is.

What are you supposed to use? Pre-colonial European and the Goths? In many aspects, you aren't even SURE if it's exactly replicated from African culture because Native American culture is also alluded to. Aren't Native Americans the ones who believed in giving back to nature and respecting all life?

And aren't the names a bit of a give away? Navi .... Native? It's not all black and white, and I think that Cameron did an excellent job trying to bring the Navi culture to life. I think that when atrocities were committed on them, you felt it because they were portrayed as this innocent group that have done nothing but to preserve life whenever they can.

I agree that the main character was weak at times, but overall, it was a very symbolic change through the movie that he was feeling less in tuned with his human side (the immoral, technological aspect) and more in tuned with a natural feeling. It sort of brings back Call of the Wild, where Buck, the main domesticated breed, becomes released in the wild and relearns how to adapt to a natural environment. That is something I can definitely repsect.

On the topic of Nature vs. Technology, I didn't think that it was horribly overdone. I got the message that the entire conflict revolved around badass machinery vs. naturalistic spirits, but I wasn't phased by it all. I was completely content because the conflict was very well established. It really resembled the conflict that happened between American colonists and the indigenous Native Americans, and how they put up tremendous struggles to stay alive and resist integration into whit society. That subtle allusion was beautifully included into the film and it added a whole new level to emotional feeling that I experienced.

My ONLY concern about the movie was the business motives. What the fuck is Unobtainium, and what value does it play? Sure scientists might get its intrinsic value, but I had no idea why such a black substance that looked like a cut out piece of lead was so valuable. I mean the very word makes it feel like it's "Unobtainable". Urgh...there was really no motive because the value of this supposed "200 million dollar" substance was never properly addressed.

ANYWAY, other than that, the score for the music was beautiful (the guy who made the music from Apollo 13 and Glory, forgot any others...Titanic?), and it really made me tear up when it was coupled with those majestic visuals that just blew me away. Like...how many people can actually make something that beautiful and then write music that makes it even more epic?

Yeah....good stuff.

On December 24 2009 02:07 ShcShc wrote:
I wonder if many more movies are turning 3D because of Avatar

On December 23 2009 16:12 fAnTaCy wrote:


Agree here...one of my managers and me at the movie theatre were actually talking about plot lines..and he said something very interesting, if you REALLY think about it..there are only 5 ideas so to speak for each plot movie, so obviously you aren't gunna have any original ideas at all for movies, you are just going to have very many variations of movies, and if you can get past that and just go watch the movie for what it is..it's going to be that much better, so people who are being picky on the plot and everything need to go look at every other movie and think about that plot -_-

On December 24 2009 02:07 ShcShc wrote:
I wonder if many more movies are turning 3D because of Avatar

On December 24 2009 06:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the film's budget was 237 million well it seems the film has just passed 300 million.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avatar.htm

So it looks like Lucas, Spielberg and the others will follow suit and possibly make films in 3D.

On December 24 2009 07:50 Xaanix wrote:
I've seen this movie twice now, both times in IMAX 3D. I simply love it and would see it again if the opportunity arose.

To those who are picking on the plot, i actually think the plot was exactly what it needed to be. Not super complicated, not super simplistic either -- if you look at the overarching themes they're actually quite powerful ( technology vs spirituality, destruction of earth's natural resources, demonization of indigenous people to justify their deaths )

We have seen and done all of these things in the very recent history of mankind. They are quite powerful themes, and sure we've seen them before, but that doesnt make them any less powerful. I think the movie pulls it off very well. It weaves together all the themes and takes you along for an incredible journey.

This movie is easily the best movie I've seen since LOTR, and it is a standalone movie. I think it has the perfect amount of dialog/plot for an action flick.