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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 05 2017 21:02 GMT
#118841
Danmachi side spinoff about Ryuu debuted~ Such a boss.
Never Knows Best.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 05 2017 21:42 GMT
#118842
Best elf.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9057 Posts
March 05 2017 22:10 GMT
#118843
New Gintama is out. New Gintama was awesome. I think we get how amazing this show is now. I'm just going to leave it at that.

Has anyone watched elDLIVE and would you rec it?
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8666 Posts
March 05 2017 22:19 GMT
#118844
On March 06 2017 05:24 Numy wrote:
Honestly quite like the light hearted scenes/moments in the show. It provides a nice contrast between what Rei thinks his life is like and what it really is. Which is a big part of depression. It's as if there's this warm fluffy blanket wrapped around this cold center trying to get it to realize it can be warm and fluffy too. Then you get his sister which is just .

I'm just mad weaksauce when it comes to emotional stuff in the last few years.


I'm with you in theory but it's more the way it's implemented that bothers me. It doesn't bother me as much as in Yuri on Ice for example but it's the same kind of comedy that feels forced. As in, it comes all of a sudden, randomly sometimes during moments when it doesn't fit. It's chibi style with silly sound effects. That way it feels like the comedy is just there because the author felt he needed to implement some comedic relief for whatever reason. I would totally be in favour of light-hearted/comedic scenes that are more integrated into the setting to show the contrast you mentioned. Let the sisters have fun and make jokes or do silly things but make it realistic (realistic in context of the show). Make it so it feels like it's the character doing the silly, funny stuff and not some external mask put onto the character for a short time.

As it is now, to me it feels like as I said: The show doesn't want to make the viewer feel unconfortable (for too long) so the author forces in comedic relief regularly instead of adding some realistic comedy when the story asks for it. For example, I always start to cringe when the blond guy with the glasses appears because I know what style of weird comedy scenes are going to come up next. Dunno, but for all the great writing the show has for character development and especially how characters come to realisation of important issues, the writing of the comedy sure feels lazy as fuck.
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-05 23:31:42
March 05 2017 23:27 GMT
#118845
I don't watch (or read) 3gatsu myself but what miragee describes is something that bothers me too with some manga adaptations i've watched.

Generally in manga panel size correlates to importance of events. Whenever a dramatic moment occurs there are often a lot of big panels (or even double page spreads) with a lot of detail to them to empathise the intensity of the situation. In some cases the author will try to lighten the mood with a few small 4koma-ish panels afterwards which are pretty effective for that most of the time.
Since in anime there's no such thing as panel size those small moments of comedic relief often become overemphasized as a result of that, and vice versa for the dramatic scenes, wich leads to a lot of tonal whiplash. I'm guessing the 3gatsu adaptation must have that problem sometimes.

To be fair those types of scenarios are a bitch to adapt properly so I don't really blame the studios for messing them up but they can really ruin key moments of an adaptation sometimes.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
March 05 2017 23:57 GMT
#118846
Gintama was awesome. Next week is going to be hype
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9057 Posts
March 06 2017 00:29 GMT
#118847
I feel like they're rushing through this. I just hope the animation keeps up. I'm hyped as fuck for it. Everything so far this arc has met and exceeded expectations. I can only get so erect for Gintama
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 06 2017 04:44 GMT
#118848
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Rip Kouka~
Never Knows Best.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
March 06 2017 07:23 GMT
#118849
Could someone suggest some episode numbers of "epic" gintama episodes?

I know there are a few (I've seen some 2-3, like the alien bath house episode and the penis-break snowboard one) but I always see people raging about how great gintama is, yet, whenever I try to watch it by myself, or with some friend while half-drunk, the episode always ends up being complete meh. (I've seen like ~15-20 episodes this way over the years)
I don't believe you.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9057 Posts
March 06 2017 07:59 GMT
#118850
I recommend the Yoshiwara Arc, (258-260), Hosen arc (140-145), and Shogun Assassination Arc (entire arc). The Shogun Assassination Arc is one of the best animated fights in Gintama. Although the others I listed will give it a run for it's money. Start with those.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
March 06 2017 08:57 GMT
#118851
On March 06 2017 16:59 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I recommend the Yoshiwara Arc, (258-260), Hosen arc (140-145), and Shogun Assassination Arc (entire arc). The Shogun Assassination Arc is one of the best animated fights in Gintama. Although the others I listed will give it a run for it's money. Start with those.


Watch every Yoshiwara -related arc, because of best girl.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 06 2017 09:34 GMT
#118852
Is there nothing within the first 100 episodes? I think I got up to ep 20ish last time I just stopped.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
March 06 2017 12:58 GMT
#118853
On March 06 2017 18:34 Numy wrote:
Is there nothing within the first 100 episodes? I think I got up to ep 20ish last time I just stopped.


There definitely is. I've read on multiple occasions that many Gintama fans say the first episodes up to 19-20 are pretty meh. If you get past those, it gets way better. It's definitely one of those shows that has lots of filler episodes, but if you like the characters and the comedy, you'll like those too.

If you just wan't to watch the arcs, all of em are listed here. http://gintama.wikia.com/wiki/Story_Arcs
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
March 06 2017 13:35 GMT
#118854
are the arcs the only funny episodes?
I mean.. for everyone, not just those who like the characters?
I don't believe you.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
March 06 2017 13:52 GMT
#118855
On March 06 2017 22:35 abuse wrote:
are the arcs the only funny episodes?
I mean.. for everyone, not just those who like the characters?


In my opinion, no. One of the funniest episodes for me is just a filler episode between arcs (ep. 153).

It's hard to sell a show that has over 300 episodes to watch, so check it out and make your own decision. With my short experience with anime thus far, it's easily one of the best shows i've watched.

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9057 Posts
March 06 2017 13:59 GMT
#118856
Gretin pretty much summed it all up. Ep 153 is hilarious. There are a lot of reference to Japanese pop culture and some things that are purely Japanese, but for the most part, it's pretty accessible. The arcs I recommend are, for me, the best at the moment. There are other ones that are good and short, but those will give you the gist of the story that is Gintama.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 06 2017 14:49 GMT
#118857
On March 06 2017 21:58 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 18:34 Numy wrote:
Is there nothing within the first 100 episodes? I think I got up to ep 20ish last time I just stopped.


There definitely is. I've read on multiple occasions that many Gintama fans say the first episodes up to 19-20 are pretty meh. If you get past those, it gets way better. It's definitely one of those shows that has lots of filler episodes, but if you like the characters and the comedy, you'll like those too.

If you just wan't to watch the arcs, all of em are listed here. http://gintama.wikia.com/wiki/Story_Arcs

I'll check it out again thanks. I didn't intentionally stop, more like I just didn't have any motivation to keep watching so it just wan't on my mind.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 06 2017 14:57 GMT
#118858
On March 06 2017 07:19 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 05:24 Numy wrote:
Honestly quite like the light hearted scenes/moments in the show. It provides a nice contrast between what Rei thinks his life is like and what it really is. Which is a big part of depression. It's as if there's this warm fluffy blanket wrapped around this cold center trying to get it to realize it can be warm and fluffy too. Then you get his sister which is just .

I'm just mad weaksauce when it comes to emotional stuff in the last few years.


I'm with you in theory but it's more the way it's implemented that bothers me. It doesn't bother me as much as in Yuri on Ice for example but it's the same kind of comedy that feels forced. As in, it comes all of a sudden, randomly sometimes during moments when it doesn't fit. It's chibi style with silly sound effects. That way it feels like the comedy is just there because the author felt he needed to implement some comedic relief for whatever reason. I would totally be in favour of light-hearted/comedic scenes that are more integrated into the setting to show the contrast you mentioned. Let the sisters have fun and make jokes or do silly things but make it realistic (realistic in context of the show). Make it so it feels like it's the character doing the silly, funny stuff and not some external mask put onto the character for a short time.

As it is now, to me it feels like as I said: The show doesn't want to make the viewer feel unconfortable (for too long) so the author forces in comedic relief regularly instead of adding some realistic comedy when the story asks for it. For example, I always start to cringe when the blond guy with the glasses appears because I know what style of weird comedy scenes are going to come up next. Dunno, but for all the great writing the show has for character development and especially how characters come to realisation of important issues, the writing of the comedy sure feels lazy as fuck.

If we think of it as some written story, which it obviously is, then yeah I'll agree it sometimes feels like out of nowhere.
On the other hand I don't really mind the silly teacher etc if I think of it as something just happening. He's that kind of person and if he walks into Rei more likely than not he has no idea about whatever it is we just saw pan out. So him being so out of nowhere feels natural to me in most situations if that makes sense?
It's not like everyone around you will be aware of what's going on, so him getting in there, cracking a stupid joke and then after the fact realising that it wasn't the best time for aforementioned stupid joke isn't really an issue for me unless I specifically think of it as fiction and the author being able to control these things.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 06 2017 15:18 GMT
#118859
Honestly that's kind of life though. People put on masks to try make themselves feel better even if they are in a terrible place. People are also awkward and do things when they shouldn't.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 06 2017 16:05 GMT
#118860
Yeah exactly. I'd even go as far as to say I like the silly teacher
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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