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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 20 2016 18:31 GMT
#116721
3-gatsu is pretty good, but not on of my favs this season. Mostly because of the genre though.

Prefer Haikyuu, Keijo!!! and Bungou Stray Dogs (which tbh has less weird faces than 3-gatsu mostly this season) enjoyment-wise. Didn't try Drifters or Yuri on Ice though so IDK how they are.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-20 18:35:26
November 20 2016 18:35 GMT
#116722
On November 21 2016 03:14 Numy wrote:
I mean out of those only Girlish number is less popular than 3-gatsu. Drifters and Yuri on Ice are by far the most talked about new shows. Even beat out stuff like Haikyuu by a fair margin in the West.

Just think it blows away anything made this year and maybe even in recent years. The character writing is so ridiculously good. It manages to perfectly wrench your heart then half an episode later have such a heartwarming scene that just lifts you up while never feeling forced or out of place. It's beautiful. Since it's character driven I doubt it'll ever truly be appreciated in the West.

agree. It's the best thing from this season for me atm and most likely will stay that way unless they fuck up badly.
I just never got the idea that it's not talked about in the West but if you're saying so and Gigguk seemed to say so as well maybe I'm just hanging out with the wrong (or right in this case) kind of people
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Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
November 20 2016 18:51 GMT
#116723
On November 21 2016 03:14 Numy wrote:
Since it's character driven I doubt it'll ever truly be appreciated in the West.

But character driven shows are usually the most well received in western anime sites, they just don't generate much hype when they're airing. If Sangatsu is really that good just give it some time before it catches on.
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Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
November 20 2016 18:57 GMT
#116724
3-gatsu was certainly a surprise for me. The description going into the first episode gave me quite a different impression than what it actually is. I was expecting the protagonist to be the typical conceited asshole which was far off the mark. The pacing, the character development, and the overall mood is just done very well. It's my favorite show for this season.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-20 21:33:19
November 20 2016 21:31 GMT
#116725
Oh Numy, I just read the first couple words of a Flip Flappers review on ANN since I wanted to check out if it got better because like I said I haven't watched in 3 episodes or so. I'm just going to straight up quote:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Not to be outdone by Yuri!!! on Ice this week, Flip Flappers's 7th episode also took its audience's lingering suspicion that this story might be about a romantic relationship between its two same-sex leads and finally answered with a resounding "YUP."
[...]
I love Flip Flappers, and I'm eager to see where it wants to take us in the end, but a couple redrafts of those earlier episodes could have made the thematic impact of these twilight twists stronger. Even if its rocky attempts at emotional depth have kept it from being a great series so far, I'm happy that it's trying to do great things with its artistry instead of trotting out the same old story beats. Let's hope it really blows the lid off all this potential in its final five.

Rating: A-


I guess I should give it another try.

that being said, another quote from the review is
Even in its most thematically straightforward episode, Flip Flappers offers viewers way more questions than answers.
so I'm kinda torn again right now
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 20 2016 21:38 GMT
#116726
I just got done with Nodame satisfied my romantic side for a bit. Sad we didn't get to see them perform her dream though.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 21 2016 01:25 GMT
#116727
What if the point of the work is to make you think?

Not all stories give the answers, since they want to provoke thought and questions in the minds of those that experience them.

I think that Flip Flappers isn't that kind of work, mostly, but the way it is pursuing its story is more vague than what many people are used to getting.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8696 Posts
November 21 2016 09:22 GMT
#116728
On November 21 2016 10:25 felisconcolori wrote:
What if the point of the work is to make you think?

Not all stories give the answers, since they want to provoke thought and questions in the minds of those that experience them.

I think that Flip Flappers isn't that kind of work, mostly, but the way it is pursuing its story is more vague than what many people are used to getting.


That's what I wrote after ep6:

"At this point I would call it aimless. 6 episodes in and there basically no progress still and I as the viewer doesn't know what the fuck is going on. If it was a full-on mystery, such as SEL, fine but it isn't. It has a mystery component but there has been next to no progress. So what does it want to be? A mystery? A sci-fi adventures? A magical girl show? Some SoL? Thriller/Psychological? I feel like it tries to be every single one of them which ends up in an aimless mess."

Not giving answers until the end, or at all for that matter, is not the problem here I think. I'm personally unsure whether we will get any coherent ending at all here. Haven't watched ep7 yet.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 11:42:08
November 21 2016 11:39 GMT
#116729
>Hajimete no Gal TV anime incoming
well okay then, MC is one of the more unlikable protags in a while but atleast main girl is cute as fuck and getting to see her animated will be nice

bit surprised it's getting an anime already though, nothing has happened
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
November 21 2016 15:52 GMT
#116730
On November 21 2016 20:39 Unleashing wrote:
>Hajimete no Gal TV anime incoming
well okay then, MC is one of the more unlikable protags in a while but atleast main girl is cute as fuck and getting to see her animated will be nice

bit surprised it's getting an anime already though, nothing has happened

Here's hoping it'll be short and have an original ending because I can't be arsed to sit through dozens of shitty chapters until something interesting happens. It's not like anyone cares about anything but the girls anyway.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 22 2016 00:38 GMT
#116731
On November 21 2016 18:22 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2016 10:25 felisconcolori wrote:
What if the point of the work is to make you think?

Not all stories give the answers, since they want to provoke thought and questions in the minds of those that experience them.

I think that Flip Flappers isn't that kind of work, mostly, but the way it is pursuing its story is more vague than what many people are used to getting.


That's what I wrote after ep6:

"At this point I would call it aimless. 6 episodes in and there basically no progress still and I as the viewer doesn't know what the fuck is going on. If it was a full-on mystery, such as SEL, fine but it isn't. It has a mystery component but there has been next to no progress. So what does it want to be? A mystery? A sci-fi adventures? A magical girl show? Some SoL? Thriller/Psychological? I feel like it tries to be every single one of them which ends up in an aimless mess."

Not giving answers until the end, or at all for that matter, is not the problem here I think. I'm personally unsure whether we will get any coherent ending at all here. Haven't watched ep7 yet.


Given that many anime are solely used to promote sales of source materials, I am not sure if there will be any ending either. (I'm STILL waiting for OreGairu to have another season because it ended on a bloody cliffhanger sentence!) Since Flip Flappers looks like it's an original anime story, I guess the odds are somewhat better that there will hopefully be a full arc to the story. But depending on what that story is, it may not really address things in a way that we might see.

I mean, I've read Alice in Wonderland, and it has something of a similar storyline (as of the last episode I saw; I haven't seen 7 either) with regards to a girl being drawn into events that are outside of the normal and seem to be very, well, psychedelic. Although the story ends when she returns from Wonderland, there's no outer framework that would it fit it into a sensible story outside of the adventures in a very different place. (At least until you look at who wrote it, the time it was written in, and the possible satirical connections to current events of the time.)

Then again, cute girls doing things in a crazy universe may just be all the story it needs to be fun.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-22 04:15:27
November 22 2016 02:40 GMT
#116732
I am wondering if I missed an episode of Izetta or they are concealing things and just showing hints or skipping information. Either way it seems like I am missing something.
+ Show Spoiler +
Like what exactly that Major learned at the workshop and who that girl is (I am guessing the OG white witch).


Edit: do people read the Gintama manga or just generally rec watching the anime? Getting more interested in the series.
Never Knows Best.
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
November 22 2016 04:39 GMT
#116733
This Haikyuu episode!! AHH
"You sons of a silly person"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 22 2016 06:18 GMT
#116734
On November 22 2016 11:40 Slaughter wrote:
I am wondering if I missed an episode of Izetta or they are concealing things and just showing hints or skipping information.
+ Show Spoiler +
Like what exactly that Major learned at the workshop and who that girl is (I am guessing the OG white witch).

afaik, they skipped stuff. + Show Spoiler +
They never said anything about the witch other than she must have a weakness and they used that carrier to test out a theory. I dunno who she is either. OG? original? Maybe?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
November 22 2016 08:20 GMT
#116735
On November 22 2016 11:40 Slaughter wrote:
I am wondering if I missed an episode of Izetta or they are concealing things and just showing hints or skipping information. Either way it seems like I am missing something.
+ Show Spoiler +
Like what exactly that Major learned at the workshop and who that girl is (I am guessing the OG white witch).

+ Show Spoiler +
Berkman wanted to know why the Kaiser believed in witches. The obvious answer is that they had a witch. Rickert's little story also suggests this. So Berkman went to the workshop and saw a witch.

Unless there is some massive red herring, the girl is the witch from the workshop. The original white witch is supposed to be dead (although this could just be misinformation). I bet the girl is a clone or something. It is both stupid enough and reasonable enough to be plausible for this show.

[image loading]

You're not wearing masks. Not that it helped in the first place, but still...

This episode was really fucking awful. Rickert's whole deal with the head of the royal guard was stupid. You can't just drum up a romance in one episode, proceed to kill off the guy, and expect me to care. The extent of their relationship is literally two conversations and him seeing her naked.

The royal guard is incompetent to the point that they can't secure a single castle. This particular castle houses their most important secret and they can't even secure the entrances? They also shoot the spy at the end of the episode, but somehow let another spy take stuff off of his body. How does that even happen?

It's also really funny how the main yuri pair have had less character development than any of the male supporting characters (who are then summarily killed). Fine can do no wrong. The show goes out of its way to sing her praises despite the fact that her decision making has been pretty questionable thus far. Izetta has literally no personality beyond obeying Fine's commands. They talk about using her as a weapon in meetings where she is present, and she seemingly doesn't give a shit.



Edit: do people read the Gintama manga or just generally rec watching the anime? Getting more interested in the series.

Either works imo.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2016 11:27 GMT
#116736
On November 22 2016 17:20 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 11:40 Slaughter wrote:
I am wondering if I missed an episode of Izetta or they are concealing things and just showing hints or skipping information. Either way it seems like I am missing something.
+ Show Spoiler +
Like what exactly that Major learned at the workshop and who that girl is (I am guessing the OG white witch).

+ Show Spoiler +
Berkman wanted to know why the Kaiser believed in witches. The obvious answer is that they had a witch. Rickert's little story also suggests this. So Berkman went to the workshop and saw a witch.

Unless there is some massive red herring, the girl is the witch from the workshop. The original white witch is supposed to be dead (although this could just be misinformation). I bet the girl is a clone or something. It is both stupid enough and reasonable enough to be plausible for this show.

[image loading]

You're not wearing masks. Not that it helped in the first place, but still...

This episode was really fucking awful. Rickert's whole deal with the head of the royal guard was stupid. You can't just drum up a romance in one episode, proceed to kill off the guy, and expect me to care. The extent of their relationship is literally two conversations and him seeing her naked.

The royal guard is incompetent to the point that they can't secure a single castle. This particular castle houses their most important secret and they can't even secure the entrances? They also shoot the spy at the end of the episode, but somehow let another spy take stuff off of his body. How does that even happen?

It's also really funny how the main yuri pair have had less character development than any of the male supporting characters (who are then summarily killed). Fine can do no wrong. The show goes out of its way to sing her praises despite the fact that her decision making has been pretty questionable thus far. Izetta has literally no personality beyond obeying Fine's commands. They talk about using her as a weapon in meetings where she is present, and she seemingly doesn't give a shit.



Show nested quote +
Edit: do people read the Gintama manga or just generally rec watching the anime? Getting more interested in the series.

Either works imo.


yeah agree with pretty much everything there.

+ Show Spoiler +
I thought it's pretty obvious that the new girl is a witch one way or another. You mentioned cloning, my first thought was genetically altering someone so that she became a witch but comes down to the same thing. There's going to be something à la "I needed her blood for the transformation into a witch to be complete" next episode which was the reason for the teethy kiss.

And yeah, the masks were so weird... "omg you're wearing a mask, whoever could you be"...
And like you said that spy in the forest gets shot, so at the least whoever shot him must have visuals on him and then someone else just casually walks up to him and takes his stuff. For all I care it could have probably been a civilian at that point and whoever shot the first spy would have been ordered to shoot the civilian as well seeing what they've done with that other guy earlier.

Not a good episode by any means, but it's still one of the shows I look forward to every week. Let's just hope next week gets it shit together a bit more.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 23 2016 05:27 GMT
#116737
On November 22 2016 17:20 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2016 11:40 Slaughter wrote:
I am wondering if I missed an episode of Izetta or they are concealing things and just showing hints or skipping information. Either way it seems like I am missing something.
+ Show Spoiler +
Like what exactly that Major learned at the workshop and who that girl is (I am guessing the OG white witch).

+ Show Spoiler +
Berkman wanted to know why the Kaiser believed in witches. The obvious answer is that they had a witch. Rickert's little story also suggests this. So Berkman went to the workshop and saw a witch.

Unless there is some massive red herring, the girl is the witch from the workshop. The original white witch is supposed to be dead (although this could just be misinformation). I bet the girl is a clone or something. It is both stupid enough and reasonable enough to be plausible for this show.

[image loading]

You're not wearing masks. Not that it helped in the first place, but still...

This episode was really fucking awful. Rickert's whole deal with the head of the royal guard was stupid. You can't just drum up a romance in one episode, proceed to kill off the guy, and expect me to care. The extent of their relationship is literally two conversations and him seeing her naked.

The royal guard is incompetent to the point that they can't secure a single castle. This particular castle houses their most important secret and they can't even secure the entrances? They also shoot the spy at the end of the episode, but somehow let another spy take stuff off of his body. How does that even happen?

It's also really funny how the main yuri pair have had less character development than any of the male supporting characters (who are then summarily killed). Fine can do no wrong. The show goes out of its way to sing her praises despite the fact that her decision making has been pretty questionable thus far. Izetta has literally no personality beyond obeying Fine's commands. They talk about using her as a weapon in meetings where she is present, and she seemingly doesn't give a shit.



Show nested quote +
Edit: do people read the Gintama manga or just generally rec watching the anime? Getting more interested in the series.

Either works imo.

good explanation, thanks
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 23 2016 05:50 GMT
#116738
Yea Izetta is pretty much just a Fine fan girl at this point.
Never Knows Best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 23 2016 06:00 GMT
#116739
On November 23 2016 14:50 Slaughter wrote:
Yea Izetta is pretty much just a Fine fan girl at this point.

Forgot to mention in my other post, I do wish the show took a more hard stance on Fine. + Show Spoiler +
The part about her being perfect is somewhat irritating to see over and over again.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2016 12:41 GMT
#116740
EMNJAY, Girlish number today!
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