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On June 28 2015 06:41 Souma wrote:
Just because it has "elements" of a genre doesn't mean that's its main thing.
Katanagatari for all intents and purposes is an action adventure. Anyone who classifies it as mainly fantasy is on some odd trip.
Might as well call One Piece a fantasy.
I'm talking about Seirei no Moribito in the post above yours not Katangatari. Please explain how that's not fantasy or answer the question about how you do your catergories?
edit: One piece is fantasy. It's more adventure than fantasy but if you want to try get a completely accurate description you'd mention something like "fantasy adventure".
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I'd like to have a "don't watch this anime ever" category, where we can include shit like Mars of Destruction, Vampire Holmes, Pupa, etc.
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On June 28 2015 06:44 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 06:41 Souma wrote:
Just because it has "elements" of a genre doesn't mean that's its main thing.
Katanagatari for all intents and purposes is an action adventure. Anyone who classifies it as mainly fantasy is on some odd trip.
Might as well call One Piece a fantasy. I'm talking about Seirei no Moribito in the post above yours not Katangatari. Please explain how that's not fantasy or answer the question about how you do your catergories?
Oh.
Seirei no Moribito can be fantasy, but its fantasy elements seem much more like a backdrop compared to its adventure (but we don't have an adventure category and that's why we placed it into fantasy).
I've already said how we do our categories. I'm not going to repeat myself.
Edit: One Piece is more action/comedy/adventure than it is fantasy adventure. You can't just call it something just because it includes certain elements. This is how you get fucked up categorizations like the first list.
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It's more like a backdrop? It's the main focus of the show. It doesn't even contain much adventure as most of the show happens around that one town. I'm really starting to get baffled at this. Link to your explanation then? Merely saying you aren't going to repeat yourself doesn't actually help.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
How about you read the previous page? ???
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On June 28 2015 06:22 Souma wrote:
After the first list had exceptionally retarded categorizations I've made the genres much more stricter, and every anime falls under their "main" genre.
To that end, Katanagatari isn't as much a fantasy as it is action/adventure.
That is all there is which explains nothing. It doesn't explain how a show that is a perfect example of a classic fantasy story is somehow not fantasy. What IS the fantasy genre to you then?
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Way to overexaggerate. I never said Seirei no Moribito was not fantasy. Holy god you're a fantasy nut.
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I'm just straight to get a straight fucking answer with a reasoning for why. Whatever it's your list so do what you want with it.
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On June 28 2015 06:25 ragz_gt wrote:The flaw is that the story is dumb and doesn't make a lick of sense Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 06:24 Rebs wrote:On June 28 2015 06:22 ragz_gt wrote:
Katanagatari is really good, though the flaw is pretty significant (no, not talking about art).
With Last Exile added last year, FruaBa and Noir are my top addition. Though Noir aged pretty terribly, it was pretty stunning when it came out. Well Madlax was way more action. It was also rather stupid and ages slightly better. Madlax is better because it is literally Noir V2. It doesn't have nearly as much impact. Also I watched all of Madlax overnight stuck at ATL airport, don't think that helped...
Well that was my point. If your going to rec something for action might aswell be the one with an entire armies worth of bullets in guerilla warfare being dodged by a lithe Blonde with duals.
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On June 28 2015 06:30 Souma wrote:
Actually I'm not sure why Claymore is still under Fantasy. Gonna have to change that and put it under Mainstream (which I'll be changing to Popular) or Action.
Seirei no Moribito prolly doesn't belong under fantasy either, though I'm not sure what its "main" thing is.
Ofc it belongs under fantasy. Its a fantasy kingdom with monsters and magic. Its not even about adventure anyway, as said earlier. Or action. Fantasy is like the only category it makes sense under.
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Fantasy is the only thing it makes sense under because everything else isn't significant enough, but in the end the fantasy elements don't beat out the other elements if combined. It's like a hodgepodge of bits of action, bits of adventure, bits (?) of drama, and fantasy. I mean compared to something like Kemono no Souja Erin the emphasis on fantasy seems to pale in comparison. But yes, it belongs under Fantasy.
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It has like 3 episodes of action and adventure.
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On June 28 2015 07:39 Souma wrote:
Fantasy is the only thing it makes sense under because everything else isn't significant enough, but in the end the fantasy elements don't beat out the other elements if combined. It's like a hodgepodge of bits of action, bits of adventure, bits (?) of drama, and fantasy. I mean compared to something like Kemono no Souja Erin the emphasis on fantasy seems to pale in comparison. But yes, it belongs under Fantasy.
Fantasy is a setting.
Everything else there is story.
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Totally more than three episodes. :p
Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 07:39 Souma wrote:
Fantasy is the only thing it makes sense under because everything else isn't significant enough, but in the end the fantasy elements don't beat out the other elements if combined. It's like a hodgepodge of bits of action, bits of adventure, bits (?) of drama, and fantasy. I mean compared to something like Kemono no Souja Erin the emphasis on fantasy seems to pale in comparison. But yes, it belongs under Fantasy. Fantasy is a setting. Everything else there is story.
When deciding on a genre you have to think about more than just setting. Just because something takes place in space doesn't automatically make it a space opera (it could be mainly a comedy).
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On June 28 2015 07:45 Souma wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 07:39 Souma wrote:
Fantasy is the only thing it makes sense under because everything else isn't significant enough, but in the end the fantasy elements don't beat out the other elements if combined. It's like a hodgepodge of bits of action, bits of adventure, bits (?) of drama, and fantasy. I mean compared to something like Kemono no Souja Erin the emphasis on fantasy seems to pale in comparison. But yes, it belongs under Fantasy. Fantasy is a setting. Everything else there is story. When deciding on a genre you have to think about more than just setting. Just because something takes place in space doesn't automatically make it a space opera (it could be mainly a comedy).
Aaaand Space Opera is story, not setting...
If it takes place in space and has any speculative science, then it's automatically Science Fiction.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
If Nichibros took place in space, it would not be science fiction.
That'd be like classifying Hoozuki as fantasy. Just no.
Note: Still talking about its "main" categorization. Obviously things have multiple genres they fall under.
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On June 28 2015 07:45 Souma wrote:Totally more than three episodes. :p Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 07:39 Souma wrote:
Fantasy is the only thing it makes sense under because everything else isn't significant enough, but in the end the fantasy elements don't beat out the other elements if combined. It's like a hodgepodge of bits of action, bits of adventure, bits (?) of drama, and fantasy. I mean compared to something like Kemono no Souja Erin the emphasis on fantasy seems to pale in comparison. But yes, it belongs under Fantasy. Fantasy is a setting. Everything else there is story. When deciding on a genre you have to think about more than just setting. Just because something takes place in space doesn't automatically make it a space opera (it could be mainly a comedy).
I counted.
Action: 6 (7 if you count the hand to hand arena scene that lasted 30 seconds).
Adventure: 5
Fantasy:18
Drama: A lot of eps had a few scenes so was hard to count. I'd put it around 18-26 if you include the politics.
Whelp better put it under Drama. Log Horizon is far more fantasy than this!
Yes it's fucking dumb to define shows like this.
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Doesn't really invalidate anything I said. o_O
Fantasy is the only thing it makes sense under because everything else isn't significant enough, but in the end the fantasy elements don't beat out the other elements if combined. It's like a hodgepodge of bits of action, bits of adventure, bits (?) of drama, and fantasy. I mean compared to something like Kemono no Souja Erin the emphasis on fantasy seems to pale in comparison. But yes, it belongs under Fantasy.
But yes keep spouting things that don't... actually change anything.
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Well I just finished the 9th episode of the first season of Durarara!!
+ Show Spoiler + The show is starting to get more interesting. I don't like how it changes perspective every episode but it seems to all fit together in the grand theme of things. People are quite fucked up in this show. This episode especially. Seiji is in love with a head, that head loves Seiji, his sister loves him as well and hates the head, the head is attached to the body of a girl that loved Seiji but was killed by him. Seiji seems to be the catalyst for unhealthy love obsessions haha. This show must be rather popular with all the episodes so far. Guess I really need to power through it. Still not sure how much I really like the show at this point, I like aspects and it shows a lot of potential so more grinding must be done!
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