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Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
May 09 2015 12:20 GMT
#97921
On May 09 2015 21:02 Numy wrote:
In my mind he either doesn't have a penis or just has huge erectile dysfunction since if those girls saw an erect penis they'd be all over that so fast you wouldn't be able to blink. I see no benefit of him not going further, it actually annoys me how it goes on full page rants about "not dying before I've had sex with Rias". Is it one of those weird Japan thing where girls have to be pure and "untainted" or they rage?


I think the target audience for DxD is teenagers. There are a lot of regulations and rules when it comes to sex in various countries and is generally taboo to sell explicit sex to teenagers. So authors are forced to tease the audience constantly but never go through with it. For example in USA, there are limitations to graphic violence and nudity during primetime television hours. It's one of the reasons why HBO, Netflix and others have the more adult shows because they don't have to follow normal television regulations. I'm sure most fans want them to have sex but the publisher is likely afraid they will get negative backlash from their parents if they added it.
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 12:36:44
May 09 2015 12:35 GMT
#97922
On May 09 2015 21:20 Imperfect1987 wrote:
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On May 09 2015 21:02 Numy wrote:
In my mind he either doesn't have a penis or just has huge erectile dysfunction since if those girls saw an erect penis they'd be all over that so fast you wouldn't be able to blink. I see no benefit of him not going further, it actually annoys me how it goes on full page rants about "not dying before I've had sex with Rias". Is it one of those weird Japan thing where girls have to be pure and "untainted" or they rage?


I think the target audience for DxD is teenagers. There are a lot of regulations and rules when it comes to sex in various countries and is generally taboo to sell explicit sex to teenagers. So authors are forced to tease the audience constantly but never go through with it. For example in USA, there are limitations to graphic violence and nudity during primetime television hours. It's one of the reasons why HBO, Netflix and others have the more adult shows because they don't have to follow normal television regulations. I'm sure most fans want them to have sex but the publisher is likely afraid they will get negative backlash from their parents if they added it.


I think you are confusing the anime with the novels. I read AsoIaF when I was 14 in my school's library and that is targeted at a pretty teen/young adult audience, it's also hardly the most hardcore thing I read back then. The only issue I've ever heard of is schools disallowing certain literature to be read as part of their syllabus. Aside from that it's fair game. I've never read anything anywhere about it being illegal to sell books with sex minors.

Your last point also confuses me. The novels have plenty of physical contact between genders. The anime has fully naked minors in it. Yet there would be a negative backlash from sex? I guess people are just that fucked up.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
May 09 2015 12:39 GMT
#97923
On May 09 2015 21:35 Numy wrote:
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On May 09 2015 21:20 Imperfect1987 wrote:
On May 09 2015 21:02 Numy wrote:
In my mind he either doesn't have a penis or just has huge erectile dysfunction since if those girls saw an erect penis they'd be all over that so fast you wouldn't be able to blink. I see no benefit of him not going further, it actually annoys me how it goes on full page rants about "not dying before I've had sex with Rias". Is it one of those weird Japan thing where girls have to be pure and "untainted" or they rage?


I think the target audience for DxD is teenagers. There are a lot of regulations and rules when it comes to sex in various countries and is generally taboo to sell explicit sex to teenagers. So authors are forced to tease the audience constantly but never go through with it. For example in USA, there are limitations to graphic violence and nudity during primetime television hours. It's one of the reasons why HBO, Netflix and others have the more adult shows because they don't have to follow normal television regulations. I'm sure most fans want them to have sex but the publisher is likely afraid they will get negative backlash from their parents if they added it.


I think you are confusing the anime with the novels. I read AsoIaF when I was 14 in my school's library and that is targeted at a pretty teen/young adult audience, it's also hardly the most hardcore thing I read back then. The only issue I've ever heard of is schools disallowing certain literature to be read as part of their syllabus. Aside from that it's fair game. I've never read anything anywhere about it being illegal to sell books with sex minors.

Your last point also confuses me. The novels have plenty of physical contact between genders. The anime has fully naked minors in it. Yet there would be a negative backlash from sex? I guess people are just that fucked up.


Don't try to understand society's logic, it's pointless to do so.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 09 2015 12:42 GMT
#97924
Haha I mean I could be wrong about the literature thing but I don't think so. I've tried searching the web about it but came up with nothing either. How cool would be world be if our view on violence and sex were switched around. Action movies would take on a new meaning :D:D
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 12:46:10
May 09 2015 12:43 GMT
#97925
On May 09 2015 21:35 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 21:20 Imperfect1987 wrote:
On May 09 2015 21:02 Numy wrote:
In my mind he either doesn't have a penis or just has huge erectile dysfunction since if those girls saw an erect penis they'd be all over that so fast you wouldn't be able to blink. I see no benefit of him not going further, it actually annoys me how it goes on full page rants about "not dying before I've had sex with Rias". Is it one of those weird Japan thing where girls have to be pure and "untainted" or they rage?


I think the target audience for DxD is teenagers. There are a lot of regulations and rules when it comes to sex in various countries and is generally taboo to sell explicit sex to teenagers. So authors are forced to tease the audience constantly but never go through with it. For example in USA, there are limitations to graphic violence and nudity during primetime television hours. It's one of the reasons why HBO, Netflix and others have the more adult shows because they don't have to follow normal television regulations. I'm sure most fans want them to have sex but the publisher is likely afraid they will get negative backlash from their parents if they added it.


I think you are confusing the anime with the novels. I read AsoIaF when I was 14 in my school's library and that is targeted at a pretty teen/young adult audience, it's also hardly the most hardcore thing I read back then. The only issue I've ever heard of is schools disallowing certain literature to be read as part of their syllabus. Aside from that it's fair game. I've never read anything anywhere about it being illegal to sell books with sex minors.

Your last point also confuses me. The novels have plenty of physical contact between genders. The anime has fully naked minors in it. Yet there would be a negative backlash from sex? I guess people are just that fucked up.

Author even talks about it in one of his afterwords(Or it might've been on his blog) of one of the novels, he wanted issei to power up by
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sucking on breasts instead of just poking them
but his editor told him he couldn't so that. It's the same with sex, he literally isn't allowed to do it because of the publisher and their rules regarding age restrictions.

I mean it's the same with for example TLR:Darkness, they can show nipples and all do all sorts of lewd things but never sex or actually showing genitals.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 12:47:44
May 09 2015 12:45 GMT
#97926
So it's the publisher just cockblocking him because that's how they do it and nothing with it being illegal for him to do it? I should read afterwords more lol. They normally just rambling.

VN have sex in them and I remember that incest anime having explicit sex so I'm like 95% sure it's not illegal oo. It's just Japan/society being weird by drawing arbitrary lines of what is or isn't right?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 12:55:42
May 09 2015 12:48 GMT
#97927
I mean of course it's not really illegal, it's just that his publisher wouldn't allow it, and if they don't allow it then he can't put it in the story.

Afaik it has to do with age restrictions, like i mentioned earlier, To love-ru got like 10 times lewder when it switched to Jump Square from Weekly shounen jump, but it still can't be lewder than showing nipples/whatever they've done so far/innuendos. They can't actually outright show any sex or genitals.

Likewise DxD can't do actual sex, another example is Monster Musume no iru nichijou, author had a scene with a harpy laying an egg which was super lewd but said on his twitter that he was actually told to tone it down because he had originally made it too lewd for the magazine he was in.

Edit: i found the afterword i was talking about earlier:
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"This time i also wanted to do a "Ise powers up by sucking Buchou's breasts!", but since i couldn't take out anything further from the fantasia collection(his publisher), it was poking instead."

Fantasia collection refers to "Fujimi Fantasia Bunko" which is where DxDs is published.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 12:57:24
May 09 2015 12:56 GMT
#97928
Those are all examples of something being publisher within an entity already and not on it's own which makes it understandable for me. The entity has it's restrictions on the content it wants to show. I understand why a novel being published has the same restrictions, are they also published within some kind of entity? I get editors/publishers are sometimes insane with what they want but an author can just go look around for a new publisher that won't butcher his story to publish it?

I guess I just don't understand how Japan's LN publishing works vs normal Western literature.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 12:58:23
May 09 2015 12:57 GMT
#97929
On May 09 2015 21:56 Numy wrote:
Those are all examples of something being publisher within an entity already and not on it's own which makes it understandable for me. The entity has it's restrictions on the content it wants to show. I understand why a novel being published has the same restrictions, are they also published within some kind of entity? I get editors/publishers are sometimes insane with what they want but an author can just go look around for a new publisher that won't butcher his story to publish it?

It's not that easy, often the stories are bound to the publisher/the publisher has the rights to publish it and the author legit can't take his story to another publisher/publish it himself.

You should watch Bakuman, gives some good insight into the whole Author, Editor and Publisher relationship. Although that's for manga i imagine most of the things it brings up still apply for LNs.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 09 2015 13:32 GMT
#97930
On May 09 2015 15:03 Slaughter wrote:
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On May 09 2015 14:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
some of you are bad people


Ikr, Bigfan is a Marika fan, what a monster.

On May 09 2015 15:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On May 09 2015 15:03 Slaughter wrote:
On May 09 2015 14:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
some of you are bad people


Ikr, Bigfan is a Marika fan, what a monster.


bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

All this Marika hate ;; Poor thing had a rough life and just wants to be with Raku, that's all. DON'T YOU WANT HER TO LIVE?

On May 09 2015 18:33 Souma wrote:
Marika is greato.

Need to see more of Chitoge's mom with her hair down though.

On May 09 2015 17:52 HolydaKing wrote:
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On May 09 2015 17:07 Emnjay808 wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with Marika??

Idk, I like her. She's funny. :D

These guys get it. You guys above should be more like them! lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 13:43:32
May 09 2015 13:43 GMT
#97931
It's not that marika is bad but rather Haru is great
this is a quote
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 09 2015 13:59 GMT
#97932
On May 09 2015 22:43 goody153 wrote:
It's not that marika is bad but rather Haru is great

Haru hasn't even started doing anything in the anime, point irrelevant lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
May 09 2015 14:01 GMT
#97933
On May 09 2015 22:59 BigFan wrote:
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On May 09 2015 22:43 goody153 wrote:
It's not that marika is bad but rather Haru is great

Haru hasn't even started doing anything in the anime, point irrelevant lol

she outshines everybody just from the OP !

(seriously wait for the festival you'll know who's the best onodera ezly )
this is a quote
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 09 2015 14:03 GMT
#97934
On May 09 2015 00:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On May 09 2015 00:16 Miragee wrote:
*sigh* best girl arguments never grow old, don't they?


best girl argument pretty much the only argument worth having
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 09 2015 14:16 GMT
#97935
Inio Asano best sex scenes :3
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
May 09 2015 14:34 GMT
#97936
On May 09 2015 23:03 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 00:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
On May 09 2015 00:16 Miragee wrote:
*sigh* best girl arguments never grow old, don't they?


best girl argument pretty much the only argument worth having


I hate conversations with human beings, too.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 09 2015 14:37 GMT
#97937
Seraph episode 6 was super predictable. It's really not that enjoyable, however I'll keep watching for now.
Wikt
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Poland226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 14:44:39
May 09 2015 14:44 GMT
#97938
Marika is annoying. Not just because she's pushy, but because she's pushy in a very specific manner, trampling everyone else and being an asshole to all but "Raku-sama". Can't she just lose already? Worst Nisekoi by far.
Rest your copper eyes on heavens low. Let the radio waves carry you home.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 09 2015 14:47 GMT
#97939
On May 09 2015 23:37 HolydaKing wrote:
Seraph episode 6 was super predictable. It's really not that enjoyable, however I'll keep watching for now.


if you keep watching it gets to the point of decent.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-09 15:16:42
May 09 2015 15:14 GMT
#97940
At least the author of DxD added in a psychological reason for why Issei didn't go all the way earlier (and now they just seem too busy ROFL).

And you naive nisekoi fans. You haven't even seen more then a 5 second clip of #2 and #1 is too busy being awesome that she won't have time to appear this season.
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