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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
December 01 2010 06:53 GMT
#9701
On December 01 2010 15:43 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 15:40 Lucumo wrote:
On December 01 2010 15:15 Ferrose wrote:
20th Century Boys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_century_boys

Naoki Urasawa. :3

Yeah, I was already wondering whether I should read it. The childhood stuff made me hesitant though. Do I really have to worry or is that part rather small?


It mostly takes place when the characters are in their 30s. But the childhood parts aren't that much. They're very important to the story though.

OK, thanks. Gonna give it a try then
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
December 01 2010 07:18 GMT
#9702
On December 01 2010 15:40 Lucumo wrote:
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On December 01 2010 15:15 Ferrose wrote:
20th Century Boys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_century_boys

Naoki Urasawa. :3

Yeah, I was already wondering whether I should read it. The childhood stuff made me hesitant though. Do I really have to worry or is that part rather small?

20th century boys is 1 of the best manga/anime has ever been made. The story is far superior compare to death notes or any famous mind-fucked story you have ever read/seen. 21st century boys is the ending of it so make sure you dont miss it.

The author is currently working on "billy bat"? which also incredible if you like 20th century boys
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
December 01 2010 07:44 GMT
#9703
Yogusa no Sora episode 9 is out, I look forward to watching it tomorrow because its late.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 01 2010 17:59 GMT
#9704
I started reading the Koe de Ohshigoto! manga. So freaking hilarious.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 01 2010 19:47 GMT
#9705
Just hoping Sentenal did see my mini-essay :[
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Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
December 01 2010 20:03 GMT
#9706
My new eroge data was damaged and i couldnt unzip them T_T
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
December 01 2010 20:19 GMT
#9707
On December 01 2010 14:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On December 01 2010 14:29 Doughboy wrote:
On December 01 2010 12:36 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 01 2010 11:37 Doughboy wrote:
Thoughts on Star Driver =? I was close to dropping, but the last two episodes were pretty decent.


I was told to stay away from it. So I never watched it. Do you think it's worth my time?


Hm, it's kind've a tough call. If you're looking for something to watch and you like mecha than you'd probably enjoy it. It's fairly borderline/slightly above average all around, with I suppose the music and fight scenes shining the most. I'm optimistic for the rest of the series after episodes 8/9, but be wary there's a couple of meh episodes in the middle there, if you're going to start watching :x.


Well it's made by Bones right?

I've watched Xam'd and am currently watching Eureka (Seven), both of which are by them.

I gotta say, they did produce some good mechs so it might be good to watch. Though I have to say that Xam'd's romance ended up pissing me off and the MC from Eureka is also getting annoying.

Other than that though, now that it's Bones, I'll take a look after I finish Eureka and all the other recommendations that are popping up.



Good Bones stuff include:

RahXephon
Wolf's Rain
Scrapped Princess
Fullmetal Alchemist (well, if you like shounen-shit)
Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven
Ouran High School Host Club
Tenpou Ibun Ayakashi Ayashi
Darker than Black: Kuro no Keiyakusha
Tokyo Magnitude 8.0
Xam'd: Lost Memories
Jyu Oh Sei

Those are all worth watching, but Ouran, Darker Than Black and Wolf's Rain are probably my favorites.

I guess The Skull Man is decent, maybe Soul Eater and Chiko, Heiress of the Phantom Thief is too, but haven't seen them yet.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
December 01 2010 20:25 GMT
#9708
Tokyo MAgnitude is probably my favorite out of the things oyu listed
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 01 2010 21:48 GMT
#9709
On December 02 2010 05:03 Blobskillz wrote:
My new eroge data was damaged and i couldnt unzip [my pants] T_T


Fixed.

o/

Juuousei and Sutepuri are forgotten goodies too ;;
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 01 2010 21:51 GMT
#9710
On December 02 2010 04:47 Southlight wrote:
Just hoping Sentenal did see my mini-essay :[

haha, I did, just had to get around to reading the mini-essay.

+ Show Spoiler +
So, from reading the novels, caps-lock SHIKI, the one that died/the "male" personality, was Shiki's 'mind', while the 'female' personality Shiki that survived was the 'soul'?

So If I'm understanding it correctly, Satsuki was the one whose purpose was trivialized in Movie 6. Since I never got all the stuff about his backstory, or any deeper meaning to his involvement other, other than the Movie being a vessel for Proto-Akiha fighting.

In Movie 7, that was mainly about Shiki's desire to kill, and then Kokutou not wanting her to become a murderer. Was things like that different in the novel as well, since you said it was mostly just tying up the loose ends and stuff?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
December 01 2010 22:15 GMT
#9711
On December 02 2010 06:48 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 05:03 Blobskillz wrote:
My new eroge data was damaged and i couldnt unzip [my pants] T_T


Fixed.

o/

Juuousei and Sutepuri are forgotten goodies too ;;


haha finally got

My Girlfriend is the President

up and running hope it doesnt bug around
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9583 Posts
December 01 2010 22:34 GMT
#9712
New TWOK is out. Ep 9. and Manga 123(?) Seems like it'll be Librarian madness in both for ~2 weeks.

I gotta say it bugs me a little that they're stretching the Shiori monologues that fit on 1 page in the manga into 3 full minutes of inner voice crap, but I'd be lying if I'd say I didn't expect it. I've been watching anime for faaaar too long to really be surprised by it. I'd be a fool if I'd expect anything else really... I know all too well how they fill up episodes and set up arcs >_<.

Well, let's go next season!!! with Kusonoki and Haqua \o/
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
potchip
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia260 Posts
December 01 2010 22:58 GMT
#9713
On December 02 2010 05:19 Shauni wrote:
[Those are all worth watching, but Ouran, Darker Than Black and Wolf's Rain are probably my favorites.


Urgh..I was thinking along the lines of "If I hear *Rakuen* one more time.." throughout the 2nd half of Wolf's Rain. It's not the word itself but how (often) and when Kiba mutters it, like if you ask any difficult question to a crazy religious fundamentalist and they just shout "God" or "Bible" back at ya..Shudders.
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
December 01 2010 23:16 GMT
#9714
ok " My Girlfriend is the President" is just plain phenominal. Played it 45min now and had to laugh constantly. Really great, wacky and over the top comedy so far
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
December 01 2010 23:21 GMT
#9715
On December 02 2010 07:58 potchip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 05:19 Shauni wrote:
[Those are all worth watching, but Ouran, Darker Than Black and Wolf's Rain are probably my favorites.


Urgh..I was thinking along the lines of "If I hear *Rakuen* one more time.." throughout the 2nd half of Wolf's Rain. It's not the word itself but how (often) and when Kiba mutters it, like if you ask any difficult question to a crazy religious fundamentalist and they just shout "God" or "Bible" back at ya..Shudders.


Yeah, haha. In general, the dialogue development was pretty bad in the series, especially among the wolves. All they did was talk about reaching rakuen or occasionally about leaving someone behind or not. Still, the atmosphere was good which made me forgive any minor irritations.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
December 02 2010 00:23 GMT
#9716
On December 02 2010 08:16 Blobskillz wrote:
ok " My Girlfriend is the President" is just plain phenominal. Played it 45min now and had to laugh constantly. Really great, wacky and over the top comedy so far

ohhh now that me I always kinda wanted to try that hahahaha
where did u torrent it?
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
December 02 2010 00:26 GMT
#9717
It was an amusing enough game if only because of "Yes we can" references, but honestly speaking not that great.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
December 02 2010 02:15 GMT
#9718
On December 02 2010 08:21 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 07:58 potchip wrote:
On December 02 2010 05:19 Shauni wrote:
[Those are all worth watching, but Ouran, Darker Than Black and Wolf's Rain are probably my favorites.


Urgh..I was thinking along the lines of "If I hear *Rakuen* one more time.." throughout the 2nd half of Wolf's Rain. It's not the word itself but how (often) and when Kiba mutters it, like if you ask any difficult question to a crazy religious fundamentalist and they just shout "God" or "Bible" back at ya..Shudders.


Yeah, haha. In general, the dialogue development was pretty bad in the series, especially among the wolves. All they did was talk about reaching rakuen or occasionally about leaving someone behind or not. Still, the atmosphere was good which made me forgive any minor irritations.


I loved Wolf's Rain even if the dialogue wasn't fantastic the plot was pretty awesome, and I loved the ending
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
December 02 2010 06:42 GMT
#9719
Yosuga was laughable this week. Deus ex machina much? At least they're finally getting into the arc for which I picked up this show.

On December 02 2010 07:34 Latham wrote:
New TWOK is out. Ep 9. and Manga 123(?) Seems like it'll be Librarian madness in both for ~2 weeks.

I gotta say it bugs me a little that they're stretching the Shiori monologues that fit on 1 page in the manga into 3 full minutes of inner voice crap, but I'd be lying if I'd say I didn't expect it. I've been watching anime for faaaar too long to really be surprised by it. I'd be a fool if I'd expect anything else really... I know all too well how they fill up episodes and set up arcs >_<.
There won't be any Shiori in the manga while the anime's going on because the author's taking a three week hiatus. D:

How else are they supposed to do the monologues? Besides, it fits her character, and her VA is doing an awesome job. If they do it properly, this will be my favorite arc this season.

Well, let's go next season!!! with Kusonoki Jun and Haqua \o/
<_<
It's really disheartening that it's going to take them approximately three more seasons to get through all the girls (Sumire and Yui~). And then the stuff that after that will probably take another season to do. But there's no rushing these things I guess.



I may have to check this out next season after all. I'm not about to pass up seeing a guy stab an eldritch abominations in the hand with a fork.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 07:42:00
December 02 2010 07:39 GMT
#9720
http://www.mmv.co.jp/special/oretsuba/
Waaaaaaaaaaaao something to look forward to O_O
Wonder how they'll storyboard that though.

On December 02 2010 06:51 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 04:47 Southlight wrote:
Just hoping Sentenal did see my mini-essay :[

haha, I did, just had to get around to reading the mini-essay.

+ Show Spoiler +
So, from reading the novels, caps-lock SHIKI, the one that died/the "male" personality, was Shiki's 'mind', while the 'female' personality Shiki that survived was the 'soul'?

So If I'm understanding it correctly, Satsuki was the one whose purpose was trivialized in Movie 6. Since I never got all the stuff about his backstory, or any deeper meaning to his involvement other, other than the Movie being a vessel for Proto-Akiha fighting.

In Movie 7, that was mainly about Shiki's desire to kill, and then Kokutou not wanting her to become a murderer. Was things like that different in the novel as well, since you said it was mostly just tying up the loose ends and stuff?


You're right about 6 and 7.

Hmm, I guess they didn't really explain this in the movie A lot of this is speculation because it's not 100% clear (thus the power of the epilogue, because you thought you had it figured out), but...

+ Show Spoiler +
Ryougi is actually one of four bloodlines along with Fujou (Kirie, Kohaku, Hisui), Asagami (Fujino), and Nanaya (aka. Tohno Shiki) that have some weird stuff going on. Now, what's explicitly stated is that somehow, via magic, the Ryougi lineage creates a soul-less body. The idea being that every person/soul can only master one thing over their lifetime due to a lack of focus and time. Thus, once they get the soul-less body, they hope for the materialization of multiple souls inside the body, because this is an unnatural process. As a result, they hope for Shiki/SHIKI occuring - it's also implied that this happens once every few generations.

What are Shiki and SHIKI? At first you think they're two minds, but then you realize that's not really the case. Coupled with the Rougi lineage you come to realize that they're two souls. This is why in ch/mov 6 Satsuki is able "recreate" SHIKI by reconnecting his memories into Shiki's, essentially "restoring" them on a "mind" level (because now she has his memories, his thoughts, etc.) but also, as I mentioned, exacerbating the sense of loss and perturbation because he's not actually there anymore, he's dead. Not to mention it can't be a pleasant feeling getting memories "of yourself" that weren't actually made by "yourself" and yet are being assimilated "as yourself." If I remember correctly the intent of Souren in doing this was to "break" her will, because he wanted her body, which he had (correctly) deduced was key to reaching the acasic record. What he didn't know, or rather...

The bombshell comes in the epilogue. She calls herself シキ (shiki), different from 式 (what you know as Shiki) and 識 (SHIKI).

"Hey, Kokutou, where do you think personalities reside?"
"... I don't know. But personalities are based on knowledge, so I guess it'd be in the head."

And then you get this epic speech:

The soul lives in the brain. If you only need the brain to keep people alive, then you don't need a body. As long as electricity is powering the brain, it's all that's needed to keep watching dreams -- yes, there was a magician that said that to Shiki once. The same answer as yours. That "personalities" are in the head.
But, that's wrong.
For example, Kokutou. You the person, you the personality, you the soul, are a combination of your history, your knowledge, and your empty body. The brain only creates knowledge, so with only a brain, you wouldn't actually result in a personality of a human.
... See, you can certainly extend your life with just your brain, but we recognize what we are only when we get a body. Because of a body, after you grow up together, you end up with the personality you have now. Some people love their bodies and might grow extroverted because of it, and some might hate their bodies and grow introverted because of it. Personalities CAN grow with just a body, but a personality grown purely out of knowledge would never gain self-esteem, and so it'd result in something wildly different from a person. And then you're left wondering if that's actually a personality, or just a simple calculator.
If you were to end up just being a brain, you'd have to create a whole new personality for "yourself as just a brain." You'd have to throw away the macro ego of a body, and root yourself in the smaller ego of knowledge.
It's not "there's knowledge and a body."
Knowledge is born after the body.
But a body that's created on the basis of knowledge, that wouldn't have knowledge. Because meat is just there. But meat also has a personality. Because it grew along with knowledge, and I'm the one that gave birth to knowledge.

She then calls herself "hardware without electricity" and refers to Shiki/SHIKI as software.

Adding to the Nasuverse complexity is that (and this was kind of hinted at in movie 4) Shiki, during her coma, was "swimming around" in the acasic record. Coupled with shiki's confident genie-like "Is there anything you want? Because I can make anything happen!" implies that she's got some sort of direct connection to the acasic record. However this connection isn't specified - an implication from 6 about Satsuki's lost memory and how the record stores all memories might imply that all physical bodies are tied to the acasic record, as that's where they come from. Or something. I don't think I want to give myself a headache pondering that
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