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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 17 2015 06:16 GMT
#96201
The movies, Stand Alone Complex and Arise are completely unconnected with one another.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
April 17 2015 07:23 GMT
#96202
+ Show Spoiler [Yahari 3] +
Komachi actually got mad. That's a first. Almost seems out of character considering how she's portrayed throughout the rest of the series, but I guess this she knows what's up. Hachiman's attempted text was pretty cute. So socially awkward.

New OP. Still rather underwhelming. At least it's not reused footage.

RIP MAX Coffee. Bit of a hamfisted metaphor though.

[image loading]

That subtle eye twitch. I fully approve.

I didn't even recognize Haruno with that new design. Anyway, she was out in full force this ep. She knew all the buttons to push, and did so with gusto. The funny part is that it didn't seem particularly malicious. It felt more like general sadism.

Hayato's change in expression was pretty cute. But then again, we already knew about this facade from last arc.

The obvious solution as presented in this episode is for Yukinon to run for pres. She probably won't win though, because that would be a rather depressing arc end.

Iroha's obviously got some shit going on too. Who knows what though.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 07:32:45
April 17 2015 07:31 GMT
#96203
On April 17 2015 15:12 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 13:37 ragz_gt wrote:
On April 17 2015 13:03 Sentenal wrote:
I haven't watched SAC so forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't SAC supposed to be independent, plotwise, from the two films? My understanding was the 2 films were Oshii doing stuff based on the manga, while SAC is its own thing.


The stories are independent, but it's still same timeline. So if you skip SAC and jump to movies you would have little idea who is who and why they are doing what they are doing. Innocence did not exactly explain anything to help out either. It's like if someone watches the GSD recap movies without actually watching either series.


wasnt the series released much much later than the first movie? sure you dont get to know much about the sidecharacters, but you dont really need to either, that said, tachikomas and the laughing man made my watch of SAC certainly worth it.


Yip the movies and SAC are separate entities. You don't have to watch SAC to watch the movies as the movies were made without SAC even being a thing. SAC is better than both movies personally. I get where ragz_gt is coming from in saying that knowledge of SAC helps explain the movies better but that's merely doing things backwards. The movies should stand completely on their own and if they don't well then they failed to achieve what they wanted. I felt they were fine on their own as I watched both before SAC myself. Innocence liked being obtuse but it was still pretty straight forward in its plot.

Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
April 17 2015 08:06 GMT
#96204
On April 17 2015 16:23 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Yahari 3] +
Komachi actually got mad. That's a first. Almost seems out of character considering how she's portrayed throughout the rest of the series, but I guess this she knows what's up. Hachiman's attempted text was pretty cute. So socially awkward.

New OP. Still rather underwhelming. At least it's not reused footage.

RIP MAX Coffee. Bit of a hamfisted metaphor though.

[image loading]

That subtle eye twitch. I fully approve.

I didn't even recognize Haruno with that new design. Anyway, she was out in full force this ep. She knew all the buttons to push, and did so with gusto. The funny part is that it didn't seem particularly malicious. It felt more like general sadism.

Hayato's change in expression was pretty cute. But then again, we already knew about this facade from last arc.

The obvious solution as presented in this episode is for Yukinon to run for pres. She probably won't win though, because that would be a rather depressing arc end.

Iroha's obviously got some shit going on too. Who knows what though.


+ Show Spoiler +
Well I'm hoping Yukinon runs for pres and wins but some sort of resolution between her and Hachiman results from it. I think it will be the others that help guide them to a resolution in some way. Their damn stubbornness and cynicism getting the best of them as usual!
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
April 17 2015 08:11 GMT
#96205
On April 17 2015 17:06 Imperfect1987 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 16:23 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Yahari 3] +
Komachi actually got mad. That's a first. Almost seems out of character considering how she's portrayed throughout the rest of the series, but I guess this she knows what's up. Hachiman's attempted text was pretty cute. So socially awkward.

New OP. Still rather underwhelming. At least it's not reused footage.

RIP MAX Coffee. Bit of a hamfisted metaphor though.

[image loading]

That subtle eye twitch. I fully approve.

I didn't even recognize Haruno with that new design. Anyway, she was out in full force this ep. She knew all the buttons to push, and did so with gusto. The funny part is that it didn't seem particularly malicious. It felt more like general sadism.

Hayato's change in expression was pretty cute. But then again, we already knew about this facade from last arc.

The obvious solution as presented in this episode is for Yukinon to run for pres. She probably won't win though, because that would be a rather depressing arc end.

Iroha's obviously got some shit going on too. Who knows what though.


+ Show Spoiler +
Well I'm hoping Yukinon runs for pres and wins but some sort of resolution between her and Hachiman results from it. I think it will be the others that help guide them to a resolution in some way. Their damn stubbornness and cynicism getting the best of them as usual!

+ Show Spoiler +
Obvious solution is to get the chick to want to win.
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Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
April 17 2015 08:28 GMT
#96206
On April 17 2015 17:11 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 17:06 Imperfect1987 wrote:
On April 17 2015 16:23 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Yahari 3] +
Komachi actually got mad. That's a first. Almost seems out of character considering how she's portrayed throughout the rest of the series, but I guess this she knows what's up. Hachiman's attempted text was pretty cute. So socially awkward.

New OP. Still rather underwhelming. At least it's not reused footage.

RIP MAX Coffee. Bit of a hamfisted metaphor though.

[image loading]

That subtle eye twitch. I fully approve.

I didn't even recognize Haruno with that new design. Anyway, she was out in full force this ep. She knew all the buttons to push, and did so with gusto. The funny part is that it didn't seem particularly malicious. It felt more like general sadism.

Hayato's change in expression was pretty cute. But then again, we already knew about this facade from last arc.

The obvious solution as presented in this episode is for Yukinon to run for pres. She probably won't win though, because that would be a rather depressing arc end.

Iroha's obviously got some shit going on too. Who knows what though.



+ Show Spoiler +
Well I'm hoping Yukinon runs for pres and wins but some sort of resolution between her and Hachiman results from it. I think it will be the others that help guide them to a resolution in some way. Their damn stubbornness and cynicism getting the best of them as usual!

+ Show Spoiler +
Obvious solution is to get the chick to want to win.


+ Show Spoiler +
I suppose if Yukinon won it would interfere with club activities. Well it will be interesting to see what sort of way they end up tackling the problem regardless.


The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
April 17 2015 09:10 GMT
#96207
On April 17 2015 11:42 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 11:35 ZenithM wrote:
Ninja Slayer: I'm sorry, I just can't.

Reminded me of a game I had 10 years ago which allowed to make "movies" with a background and some 2D periodic sprites (essentially gifs) of comics characters like Spiderman. It really produced the same results.

Ok I found the game, it was 20 years ago actually xD. Look at this shit and tell me this isn't the same thing.


Oh wow. I thought about watching Ninja Slayer but if it's really like that...

On April 17 2015 12:15 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 09:29 Miragee wrote:
Just watched GitS:Innocence with a friend. Quite a let down compared to the first movie. It was fine overall but the story telling was incredibly weak imho. The use of surreal picture frames for "story-telling" didn't blend in well with the use of repeats/blends when they tried to show of hacking/mind manipulation. It was very confusing at times. The movie also had a lot of plot holes and loose ends. E.g. things like the firma and the hacker weren't really explained in detail and neither was their connection. It felt like they just took a number of plot points without trying to connect them properly. I also didn't like the excessive use of CGI, even if it was done well for the most part. They also threw in some some random action and melo-dramatic scenes.

After the first movie I was pretty hyped for the SAC series but now I don't know anymore. Is SAC more like the first movie or more like the second one?


That's what you get for watching out of order! Innocence and SSS movies are after events of both SAC seasons, so you skipped 50 ep of event, no wonder it makes no sense. But SAC are much better. All movies except first one are pretty meh.


Uh? I basically read beforehand what most people are saying in this thread: SAC, the movies and Arise are all unrelated by plot. I also looked for a recommended order to watch. The internet told me it doesn't matter, my friend recommended me to watch the movies first. Since I also support watching shows/movies in the order they came to be, I thought watching the movies first was a good idea. And as said a few days ago, I thought the first GitS movie was great and I obviously didn't have any knowledge back then, either.

Well anyways, I'm glad to hear that SAC is considered to be better than the movies. Guess I wil start with the first season pretty soon then.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 17 2015 10:15 GMT
#96208
Mikagura is great so far
lol
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 17 2015 10:55 GMT
#96209
I was pretty excited for Ninja Slayer too. Pity it's so trashy. Mikagura I've dled but haven't watched yet. Still trying to finish Moe Pirates. If you enjoyed the first movie you'll like SAC Mirage. Its a bit more episodic but one sweet ride. Laughing man is epic.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 13:25:10
April 17 2015 12:49 GMT
#96210
On April 17 2015 18:10 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 11:42 ZenithM wrote:
On April 17 2015 11:35 ZenithM wrote:
Ninja Slayer: I'm sorry, I just can't.

Reminded me of a game I had 10 years ago which allowed to make "movies" with a background and some 2D periodic sprites (essentially gifs) of comics characters like Spiderman. It really produced the same results.

Ok I found the game, it was 20 years ago actually xD. Look at this shit and tell me this isn't the same thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2THuctqMXis


Oh wow. I thought about watching Ninja Slayer but if it's really like that...

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 12:15 ragz_gt wrote:
On April 17 2015 09:29 Miragee wrote:
Just watched GitS:Innocence with a friend. Quite a let down compared to the first movie. It was fine overall but the story telling was incredibly weak imho. The use of surreal picture frames for "story-telling" didn't blend in well with the use of repeats/blends when they tried to show of hacking/mind manipulation. It was very confusing at times. The movie also had a lot of plot holes and loose ends. E.g. things like the firma and the hacker weren't really explained in detail and neither was their connection. It felt like they just took a number of plot points without trying to connect them properly. I also didn't like the excessive use of CGI, even if it was done well for the most part. They also threw in some some random action and melo-dramatic scenes.

After the first movie I was pretty hyped for the SAC series but now I don't know anymore. Is SAC more like the first movie or more like the second one?


That's what you get for watching out of order! Innocence and SSS movies are after events of both SAC seasons, so you skipped 50 ep of event, no wonder it makes no sense. But SAC are much better. All movies except first one are pretty meh.


Uh? I basically read beforehand what most people are saying in this thread: SAC, the movies and Arise are all unrelated by plot. I also looked for a recommended order to watch. The internet told me it doesn't matter, my friend recommended me to watch the movies first. Since I also support watching shows/movies in the order they came to be, I thought watching the movies first was a good idea. And as said a few days ago, I thought the first GitS movie was great and I obviously didn't have any knowledge back then, either.

Well anyways, I'm glad to hear that SAC is considered to be better than the movies. Guess I wil start with the first season pretty soon then.


The order is First movie > SAC > SAC2 > Innocence > SSS. The plots are not directly related, but Innocence and SSS assume you knows the world setting that was established in the franchise. Like you can watch Gundam Unicorn without watching any other UC series, but you will get much more out of it if you do. First movie is the very first release of the entire thing so of course you don't need any knowledge of it.

On April 17 2015 15:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
The movies, Stand Alone Complex and Arise are completely unconnected with one another.


That's like saying Unicorn and original Gundam are completely unconnected. And Arise is definitely connected, as Arise (character design aside) is direct prequel. Heck, the knock against Arise is that it's just Major runs around looking for section 9 members RPG style. It's the same F/Z F/SN argument, production order is usually best order, as later additions tends to assume prior knowledge.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 17 2015 13:02 GMT
#96211
On April 17 2015 19:15 SK.Testie wrote:
Mikagura is great so far
lol

I know right?

Such a shame they didn't keep using the ED from episode 1, that was singlehandedly the best ED/OP I've heard so far this season
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44311 Posts
April 17 2015 13:06 GMT
#96212
On April 17 2015 05:47 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 03:12 goody153 wrote:
On April 17 2015 03:10 Numy wrote:
On April 17 2015 02:49 Toadesstern wrote:
also to respond to Goody, silver is the only "real" girl in the show anyways.
Red is going after Silver, Red's big sister is going after Red (so plenty of yuri for Numy), Silver is going after MC and blond is actually a boy.

The rest are just supporting characters like his Mom and such.


I was wrong. This show sounds amazing. I shouldn't doubt the Toad. He is the master of diabetes.

since there is clear romance i'm watching too

the silver girl from the looks of it is pretty diabetes too .. if she impressed sent there's no way she's bad

You know 'diabetes' is a bad thing, right?


On April 17 2015 07:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yeah, diabetes IRL is a bad thing obv. But at least for me, I use it in reference to series with a lot of sugary/cute/adorable stuff.


There's my answer
this is a quote
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 13:37:24
April 17 2015 13:29 GMT
#96213
On April 17 2015 21:49 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 18:10 Miragee wrote:
On April 17 2015 11:42 ZenithM wrote:
On April 17 2015 11:35 ZenithM wrote:
Ninja Slayer: I'm sorry, I just can't.

Reminded me of a game I had 10 years ago which allowed to make "movies" with a background and some 2D periodic sprites (essentially gifs) of comics characters like Spiderman. It really produced the same results.

Ok I found the game, it was 20 years ago actually xD. Look at this shit and tell me this isn't the same thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2THuctqMXis


Oh wow. I thought about watching Ninja Slayer but if it's really like that...

On April 17 2015 12:15 ragz_gt wrote:
On April 17 2015 09:29 Miragee wrote:
Just watched GitS:Innocence with a friend. Quite a let down compared to the first movie. It was fine overall but the story telling was incredibly weak imho. The use of surreal picture frames for "story-telling" didn't blend in well with the use of repeats/blends when they tried to show of hacking/mind manipulation. It was very confusing at times. The movie also had a lot of plot holes and loose ends. E.g. things like the firma and the hacker weren't really explained in detail and neither was their connection. It felt like they just took a number of plot points without trying to connect them properly. I also didn't like the excessive use of CGI, even if it was done well for the most part. They also threw in some some random action and melo-dramatic scenes.

After the first movie I was pretty hyped for the SAC series but now I don't know anymore. Is SAC more like the first movie or more like the second one?


That's what you get for watching out of order! Innocence and SSS movies are after events of both SAC seasons, so you skipped 50 ep of event, no wonder it makes no sense. But SAC are much better. All movies except first one are pretty meh.


Uh? I basically read beforehand what most people are saying in this thread: SAC, the movies and Arise are all unrelated by plot. I also looked for a recommended order to watch. The internet told me it doesn't matter, my friend recommended me to watch the movies first. Since I also support watching shows/movies in the order they came to be, I thought watching the movies first was a good idea. And as said a few days ago, I thought the first GitS movie was great and I obviously didn't have any knowledge back then, either.

Well anyways, I'm glad to hear that SAC is considered to be better than the movies. Guess I wil start with the first season pretty soon then.


The order is First movie > SAC > SAC2 > Innocence > SSS. The plots are not directly related, but Innocence and SSS assume you knows the world setting that was established in the franchise. Like you can watch Gundam Unicorn without watching any other UC series, but you will get much more out of it if you do. First movie is the very first release of the entire thing so of course you don't need any knowledge of it.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 15:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
The movies, Stand Alone Complex and Arise are completely unconnected with one another.


That's like saying Unicorn and original Gundam are completely unconnected. And Arise is definitely connected, as Arise (character design aside) is direct prequel. Heck, the knock against Arise is that it's just Major runs around looking for section 9 members RPG style. It's the same F/Z F/SN argument, production order is usually best order, as later additions tends to assume prior knowledge.


It is not a direct prequel. I'm not sure where you getting your information from honestly. Arise is a "reimagining" of Ghost in the Shell starting at how section 9 formed. It's not a prequel to the movies or SAC. Innocence is a direct sequel to the First movie and isn't related to SAC/SAC2/SSS. SSS is a direct sequel to SAC2. None of this is at all like F/Z to F/SN argument. These are 3 separate directors interpretations of Ghost in the Shell that are not connected. F/Z is a direct prequel to F/SN not a separate entity.

The actual order is as follows:

First Movie -> Innocence
SAC -> SAC2 -> SSS
Arise.

Having prior knowledge may make certain aspects of each entity more enjoyable but that's a completely different story than saying they are connected. The only connection they share is that they are all interpretations of the original Ghost in the Shell manga.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44311 Posts
April 17 2015 13:49 GMT
#96214
ok Stein;s gate and FMA BH are the finalist of the reddit all time favorite .. lmao
this is a quote
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 13:55:18
April 17 2015 13:54 GMT
#96215
On April 17 2015 22:49 goody153 wrote:
ok Stein;s gate and FMA BH are the finalist of the reddit all time favorite .. lmao

They're not my personal favorites, but they're not bad shows either. It's the type of show that will strike a good balance of popularity and quality.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 17 2015 13:58 GMT
#96216
FMA:Brotherhood is a well regarded show that basically anybody can watch(You could call it a good entry-tier show for people who are new to anime) and enjoy and it is pretty good too.
So it'll be well regarded by a LOT of people and as said above have a good balance between popularity and quality.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 17 2015 14:01 GMT
#96217
If I had my say, best all-time shows would be Akagi, Katanagatari and Bartender so yeah.... :D
(I'm joking a bit on Bartender, but that's one anime I know I liked very much more than your usual animu connoisseur)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44311 Posts
April 17 2015 14:06 GMT
#96218
well i already knew it's a popularity contest of course the most accepted usually wins .. idk i should have expected it but it's kinda funny
this is a quote
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 14:08:09
April 17 2015 14:07 GMT
#96219
Well the question "best all time favourite" is so loaded it's really impossible to answer. Katanagatari would be up there for me too though. Steins;gate and FMAB being finalists on reddit isn't really surprising, it's actually a given that those 2 would be top 2 as that place loves them so much. There's really no point in doing such a poll while including those 2(And Gintama). It's not giving you any additional information and really just obscuring the more interesting information.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 14:09:40
April 17 2015 14:09 GMT
#96220
My two favourite anime are TTGL and Katanagatari o/

They're definitely the two shows i enjoyed the most while watching them.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
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