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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
October 29 2014 12:18 GMT
#86621
Katanagatari

+ Show Spoiler +

Cheerio should have been a word without all the unnecessary unpleasant baggage and all this haircutting. *sigh* don't they know both were perfect with that kind of hair.

i was gonna rate it 8/10 but PRINCESS HITEI FUCKING WON .. so it may or may not have been the reason the score raised ..

and i personally like the Shikizaki and Yasuri ending just like the foretold beginning where Shikizaki and Yasuri were close .. i find it cute

One last thing.
RIP Togame you had a great run.


so 9/10

well that was really fun
this is a quote
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 29 2014 12:26 GMT
#86622
On October 29 2014 21:18 goody153 wrote:
Katanagatari

+ Show Spoiler +

Cheerio should have been a word without all the unnecessary unpleasant baggage and all this haircutting. *sigh* don't they know both were perfect with that kind of hair.

i was gonna rate it 8/10 but PRINCESS HITEI FUCKING WON .. so it may or may not have been the reason the score raised ..

and i personally like the Shikizaki and Yasuri ending just like the foretold beginning where Shikizaki and Yasuri were close .. i find it cute

One last thing.
RIP Togame you had a great run.


so 9/10

well that was really fun


Awesome show, in my top 5 all time.

+ Show Spoiler +
No one won wtf. Togame achieved her goal but didn't get what she desired. Hitei fulfilled her ancesored will but lost her friends doing it. Yasuri finally found out there's more to life than being a weapon but lost the girl who showed him that.


Dammit goody you gonna make me cry just thinking about it.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 12:35:33
October 29 2014 12:34 GMT
#86623
On October 29 2014 21:26 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 21:18 goody153 wrote:
Katanagatari

+ Show Spoiler +

Cheerio should have been a word without all the unnecessary unpleasant baggage and all this haircutting. *sigh* don't they know both were perfect with that kind of hair.

i was gonna rate it 8/10 but PRINCESS HITEI FUCKING WON .. so it may or may not have been the reason the score raised ..

and i personally like the Shikizaki and Yasuri ending just like the foretold beginning where Shikizaki and Yasuri were close .. i find it cute

One last thing.
RIP Togame you had a great run.


so 9/10

well that was really fun


Awesome show, in my top 5 all time.

+ Show Spoiler +
No one won wtf. Togame achieved her goal but didn't get what she desired. Hitei fulfilled her ancesored will but lost her friends doing it. Yasuri finally found out there's more to life than being a weapon but lost the girl who showed him that.


Dammit goody you gonna make me cry just thinking about it.

+ Show Spoiler +

I was so sure that Shichika was going to chop her head like what happened to Togame's father. Good thing it didn't happen.

I consider being alive and she doesn't look like she is living terrible after TS so i consider that as winning. Although Yasuri didn't exactly win but he is doing whatever he is doing and he seems happy(or at least fine) with it.

So she fucking won in my standards.


The show has a lot of meat and i really appreciate that.
this is a quote
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 12:41:58
October 29 2014 12:36 GMT
#86624
Yes i agree with Numy, Akame is a 'lol wtf' type of shounen to me, iirc i started to read terraformars and Brynhildr at the same time so i treat them the same, all of them are some 'for the lolz' shounen(-ish) manga.

They are nice if you like shounen-ish manga and you like some different elements in it compared to the usual mainstream shounen. At least the writer(s) are trying to put in something different which is always a welcome
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 29 2014 12:48 GMT
#86625
On October 29 2014 11:41 Dark_Chill wrote:
The art is amazing, but honestly its main draw for me is that it's a better shounen than most, imo. If you were reading something purely for cooking, shokugeki isn't bad, but it can't really compare to nobunaga.


If you want read something for cooking, Oishinbo and Cooking Papa are the way to go. I learned so much shit from those lol
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 13:10:25
October 29 2014 13:06 GMT
#86626
Katanagatari is a tragedy after all.
+ Show Spoiler +
Everyone lost, no winners, still a great story.
The boss rush at the end was amazing though.

I think the only real problem i had was how a lot of characters were kind of introduced and then killed just as fast, this is mostly in regards to the maniwani though. Some of them i would've liked to see more of to be honest.


Definitely in my top 5, the art definitely helps, i loved the artstyle.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 13:36:59
October 29 2014 13:32 GMT
#86627
I forgot to mention that that Katanagatari OST's are doing so much work . Hypes the fuck out of me.

Whenever Shichika and Togame are alone together .This one hypes me the fuck out. And i just realized the lyrics is not "hello lady" but "You gotta lay back" . Lol


Princess Hitei perspective whenever she is alone or just with her loyal servant. This one particularly gives me the shivers .


OMG whenever this one is out i can't take out my eyes of the screen. Everything just so sexy with this one.
this is a quote
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 14:56:24
October 29 2014 14:54 GMT
#86628
On October 29 2014 18:26 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 03:09 Ecael wrote:
On October 29 2014 02:57 Numy wrote:
On October 29 2014 02:43 maru~ wrote:
On October 28 2014 19:23 Numy wrote:
On October 28 2014 10:53 Ecael wrote:
Do I give Akame too much credit and find it surprising that people can still look at the characters from a black and white view of morality?


Think you give Akame too much credit. When the "bad' people are so comically bad it's hard to say the show is trying to be morally gray. It's a fighter shounen that tries to be a bit edgy but fails hard at it. People should just accept it for what it is instead of trying to make it sound all morally gray.

Huh, the Jaegers aren't comically bad.


The doctor guy was hilarious. Then you got Justice bitch who is epicly funny. Esdeath just wants to watch the world burn. Only "not comically bad" guys were Bols/BetterAkame/Tatsumiclone. Even then Bols getup was trying it's best to create false image of himself for no real reason other then playing into the whole "don't judge a book by it's cover" idiom. I wouldn't even call the Jaegers the "bad" guys, there are merely hired help. Looking at the actual bad guys of the story you get all the nobles(that minister guy that is always eating meat wtf) and wealthy people who the show goes to great lengths show how evil they are.

The show isn't gray at all. It reminds me more of Robin Hood honestly. Akame's whole "this is the right thing to do that's why I left" really gives me Robin Hood vibes.

Early efforts at painting the night raid as doing necessary evil for a greater cause failed pretty quickly because for whatever reason everyone they kill is evil. Well, whatever at that, just a bit of waste of time that didn't look like it was gonna pan out. So next we use Jaegars and put it with a mix of evil, crazy people and people with common sense. To at least make the enemy side comparable to protagonists and pave road to people switching sides as necessary. That's mostly a thing as long as Tatsumiclone and Kurome are alive, too bad it didn't actually go anywhere either because I guess someone is trying too hard to avoid cliche situations. Now oops, everything is just people with a greater purpose beating down on bads.

The idea to make gray zones is there, the execution just never panned out because...idk. Easier to introduce new baddies and kill them I suppose. That leaves us with the current dismal state of the manga. But hey, at least at this point in time they kinda tried to avoid it from being like that. Kinda.


Honestly I think Akame was never trying to be gray from what I've seen of the anime and the small parts I've read in the manga. It starts you off with a very clear picture of "these people are evil". You get some rich young family poisoning people with deadly diseases and torture for no other reason than they can. It may have been different if say one of the families children had a deadly disease and they were doing medical on these people with no attachments to the world to try save them. That's something that is both "bad" but at the same time something that as a writer you can make the audience feel for the "bad" person. Then we get introduced to Night Raid who convince Tatsumi to help kill this family.

Night Raids introduction basically has nothing painting them as bad aside from people saying they bad and them killing people. All the people they kill are people that their "badness" is shoved down your face. It's pretty hard to see them as anything but good guys doing good things. They even part of a resistance movement so it's not like they just doing it for themselves. A more neutral group in another shounen would be the Zoldyck family where they do it indiscriminately for money but take no pleasure in the action. I guess comparing HxH to Akame is rather unfavorable to Akame lol.

Akame ga Kill is just a typical shounen story where it's slightly more violent and set in a "darker" world. It was never a story trying to be gray. I think people just really wanted it to be that so they convinced themselves it was trying to be that. Even when it introduces more likable antagonists that seems more as a way to get you to care than trying to show two perspectives.

Trinity Seven ep 4 - Feels a bit boring honestly. Sure boobs and half naked girls are fun but if the story around them is shit then it just feels shit. Hopefully they pick it up soon.

I don't really think that being a part of a resistance means anything, being a part of something greater is just that. If we want to look at it cynically, it is just one more bullshit for the mangaka to pull later on if there needs to be some backstabbing done on protagonists. The early villains are also so comically bad that it is hard to see them as anything but an exaggeration to kickstart the story. Zoldycks are pretty standard far as portrayal of hitmen clans go though imo. Work is just work etc.

Eh just different kinds of cynicism here I think. I'd like to think that the original concept is more inspired than just shounen with dead people in it, which is kinda weak as a hook. The very fact that they made a Tatsumi clone to within Jaegars should've pointed to that direction too. No one can really expect just killing off new characters with standard good person working for evil empire thing to work as something to get people to care in itself, right? The idea is there. The execution never really comes through. To put that more succinctly, shit was too bad to be just a simple shounen story rather than a botched attempt of trying to be something more.

In the end maybe the only hook was Esdeath and everything else was just random shit thrown in on the spot with no one thinking about anything. That's pretty likely too.
On October 29 2014 22:06 Unleashing wrote:
Katanagatari is a tragedy after all.
+ Show Spoiler +
Everyone lost, no winners, still a great story.
The boss rush at the end was amazing though.

I think the only real problem i had was how a lot of characters were kind of introduced and then killed just as fast, this is mostly in regards to the maniwani though. Some of them i would've liked to see more of to be honest.


Definitely in my top 5, the art definitely helps, i loved the artstyle.

You can say that's why Nishio wrote the Maniwa thing after Katanagatari aired. Alternatively someone just wanted more money.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 16:54:34
October 29 2014 16:54 GMT
#86629
Katanagatari is so guud. One of muh favorites. Freaking goody watching shit while he waited forever to finish it.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
October 29 2014 17:25 GMT
#86630
On October 29 2014 11:47 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
So Grisaia, not great but not terrible. Some parts have been ok, but i feel like they're trying too hard. + Show Spoiler [episode 4] +
I fucking lost it when the cat died at the end. I have 3 cats (2 im not that attached to, but the 1 is my freaking baby) and this is like the shit i have nightmares about. So fucking sad

Yeah that shit gets to me too. Fucking Rurumo last season, and now this.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 29 2014 19:14 GMT
#86631
surely there are some people read Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches here? Now that is some classic NTR development haha
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
October 29 2014 19:18 GMT
#86632
there will be a NTR situation later ? i only got to the part on manga where + Show Spoiler +
Yamada and Smart girl becomes a couple
this is a quote
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 29 2014 19:19 GMT
#86633
Yeah this new arc is pretty good, glad to see things moving at a decent pace.

It's your boy Guzma!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8627 Posts
October 29 2014 20:02 GMT
#86634
K-ON!! ep6

+ Show Spoiler +
That Yui-Giita-Azusa love triangle...I lol'd so hard. xD
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 29 2014 20:27 GMT
#86635
Chaika: Avenging Battle ep 4:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nice one. We finally found out the truth about the Chaikas, although it is no surprise at all. Still some progress. Feels like the dragoon girl will have to save them, or at least that's what i'd expect as she should be the stongest amongst them.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 29 2014 20:42 GMT
#86636
Yamada-kun really went down hill for a while after the initial arc where they wiped the witches powers. It was really good before that.

It has been getting better lately though. I don't think NTR is the appropriate word for that girl making her move finally.
Never Knows Best.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 29 2014 20:49 GMT
#86637
well it is not really a real NTR situation in this manga because everyone has + Show Spoiler +
kisses or touches each other one way or another lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 29 2014 22:48 GMT
#86638
This week's Nanatsu was okay.

Ookami Shoujo making huge headway in the romance department. Huge for the shoujo genre anyways.
Skol
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 22:50:31
October 29 2014 22:48 GMT
#86639
This week's Gundam Build Fighters episode demonstrates how SD Gundams can be awesome too. Hopefully the Winning Gundam will be just as cool as the ones this week. And hopefully it also transforms into a giant fist, like how I think it will.

On October 29 2014 22:32 goody153 wrote:
I forgot to mention that that Katanagatari OST's are doing so much work . Hypes the fuck out of me.

Whenever Shichika and Togame are alone together .This one hypes me the fuck out. And i just realized the lyrics is not "hello lady" but "You gotta lay back" . Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhP5XJUwKyY

Princess Hitei perspective whenever she is alone or just with her loyal servant. This one particularly gives me the shivers .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRgf4Hsf6r4

OMG whenever this one is out i can't take out my eyes of the screen. Everything just so sexy with this one.

Not that the OST is bad or anything, but you have a strange definition of the word "hype"
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
October 29 2014 23:49 GMT
#86640
On October 30 2014 04:14 BurningSera wrote:
surely there are some people read Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches here? Now that is some classic NTR development haha

I'm having flashbacks to Yankee-kun, wherein nothing fucking happened and we got a billion arcs of worthlessness.
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