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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 01 2014 01:24 GMT
#80581
Saber is the best. Based on almost nothing.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 01 2014 01:28 GMT
#80582
Downside of UBW is how little Illya there is

+ Show Spoiler +
cause rip Illya in UBW quite quickly.
WriterXiao8~~
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 01 2014 01:29 GMT
#80583
Illya a shit, so thats ok
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
August 01 2014 01:52 GMT
#80584
On August 01 2014 04:28 ragz_gt wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:15 Slaughter wrote:
The Fate route is pretty damn good, would be on the level of great if Shirou wasn't so unlikeable on multiple levels. Its probably going to be my favorite route, but the UBW ones could unseat that (since I read the plot summaries of all the routes). I have no particular wish to sink a huge ass amount of time into the HF's routes though, even though I probably will because just reading plot summaries is kind of a cop out (even though I already know I won't really like it).

This song really goes well with a lot of scenes.

+ Show Spoiler +


You have to be a pretty big Saber fan to have Fate as fav route, as it is by far the least interesting one plotwise,

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:37 XenOmega wrote:
This one from the show is actually my favourite



FZ has some great soundtracks. But unlike this one (from youtube link), they sound 'plain' when taken out of the show. weird


I just linked that a few posts back >.<V Even the exact same youtube vid.


Yup, that's the link from the forum a few pages ago. Some great memories from the anime. It isn't a disaster, But it certainly is weaker than FZ -_- (yea I know, both weren't produced in the same conditions, etc.)
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 03:11:57
August 01 2014 03:06 GMT
#80585
It's just the perfect ringtone. It's catchy, unique, not intrusive or annoying, not weird to people who never watch anime, and if you know it certainly brings a smile.

Also it always remind me of this:



On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 02:34 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On July 31 2014 06:53 Sentenal wrote:
On July 31 2014 04:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@Sentenal
>terrible CG
>Sunrise
Your standarts are way too high. Aldnoah.Zero has it even worse, the grunt mech is goddamn ugly and enemy designs are straight rip-offs, with negative regards to common sense asspull powers that are going to beaten by Deus Ex Machine every fucking time, so Idk.

But Aldnoah Zero didn't look as shit as Buddy Complex, at least to me. In terms of design, I think the normal Kataphrakts could look okay if they weren't Katoki'd, but at least they don't make my eyes want to puke. But when it comes to how much people like designs, no one is ever going to agree anyway.

If only the Halo-borrowed looks were the problem...
Didn't you notice how this pile of metal junk flies/high-jumps? It has primitive wingied thing attached to robot legs from OUTSIDE that acts like a jet-pack (ofc judging by it's actual size it couldn't even help to space maneuvering, yet lifting 2.5+ tonnes directly from ground), which means only one thing - even if it gets only slightly damaged, the weight balance could be never achieved. Good luck fighting for survival, soldiers, when every kind of explosion throw your suit off so you never get up - that's the exact kind of weapon humans were PROUD of at the beginning of their defense.

For example from Gundam, some people like things like the Nightingale, or Penelope Gundam. I think both look like garbage

Well, you took both your examples from non-animated works, it may be one of the reasons)
Here are my two cents: Penelope is amazing because it was done by Zeorymer designer and Hathaway's Flash is really good; Nightingale is basically rejected Sazabi with more weapons, so it's somewhat okay, I guess, but nothing really special, it happens with Zeon suits.

Anyway, are you still even watching Aldnoah Zero? I thought you dropped it after episode 2

I did, but only dead haven't expressed their dissapointment at Net with the way how "annihilation-field shield" was handled in third episode, so I decided to watch the next fight exclusively to see how much more stupid it would get. Creators didn't disappoint me in that regard, you don't see mecha suit dippng into the water after being hit by mere power crane controlled cargo container, like it was made of plastic and pilot felt asleep in the cockpit at the same moment, every day, afterall.

So, your complaint about the design of the gruntbots is realism...? Really? I think the fact that they are giant fighting robots should give any mecha anime some leeway in terms of how silly some of their design decisions are. In this regard, I can't see how you could even possibly like the Penelope, considering it would probably destroy itself just by trying to move any of its joints.

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
I liked the anime well enough the first time, but after reading the VN, going back to it felt kind of meh. The transition from 1st to 3rd person did not work, and the loss of Shirou's perspective on thing killed his characterization (not that Fate-Shirou had any to begin with). The unlimited blade work movie was a clusterfuck, they just ignored everything but the fight scenes. The animation for it was great though.

Heaven's Feel is a mixed bag for me. I don't really like Sakura, the + Show Spoiler +
throwing away his ideal thing
was a huge wtf man moment, but then you have the great Illya interaction, and Nine Bullets Revolver + Sparks Liner High (Those 2 scenes made the entire route worth it.).


@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:37 Slaughter wrote:
I have stated before that Saber is my favorite character in the Fate Universe, and reading the VN has made me like her even more and Shirou even less ~_~ (but I guess he gets a little more sympathy). I already know the plots to all the routes and the HF routes I am just like "whatever" Plus + Show Spoiler +
Shirou killing corrupted Saber? Meh
could be because I never have been that interested in Sakura, I still will play through it though just to know everything. UBW will probably be close to Fate, will come down to the execution.

As for Fate Route 27 hours to complete ~_~

+ Show Spoiler +
It did a better job with explaining and showing the Shirou and Saber's motivations and relationship and how it changed then the anime. While the 1st H scene turned me off greatly because of the way it was handled (with the obvious yuri pandering BS) once the "magical transfer via sex" was established (I still say this makes no sense because sexual fluids is a stupid fluid for magic to concentrate in) the 2nd one in the Fate route really was nice for how they both reacted to it.Saber, still saying she can't return his feelings but could use the magic transfer as well as her wanting this dream, if only for the night. Shirou desperate to convince her and somewhat hurt by how she framed it but also allowing this dream to happen, if only for the night. Shirou is really the weak point, but then again the Fate universe isn't known for producing protagonists who are in the nice box of "likeable hero" so I guess he gets somewhat of a pass in the end, even though multiple times while playing I wished he would just die.

Its always nice to see someone praising Saber here. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only Saber fan on TLADT.



I like Saber a lot, I just like Rin more. And that I don't like Fate route >.<

Sure hope with new TV + movie we get some good Saber PVC.

Rerelease + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
please...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 03:46:49
August 01 2014 03:15 GMT
#80586
On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.


wait what? Scryed? whats this? ZETSUEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, that definitely does not seem like mecha to me. Why does everybody label it as such?
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 01 2014 06:42 GMT
#80587
On August 01 2014 10:28 Kipsate wrote:
Downside of UBW is how little Illya there is

+ Show Spoiler +
cause rip Illya in UBW quite quickly.

+ Show Spoiler +
literally rip... T.T
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
August 01 2014 06:54 GMT
#80588
On August 01 2014 04:37 Slaughter wrote:
I have stated before that Saber is my favorite character in the Fate Universe, and reading the VN has made me like her even more and Shirou even less ~_~ (but I guess he gets a little more sympathy). I already know the plots to all the routes and the HF routes I am just like "whatever" Plus + Show Spoiler +
Shirou killing corrupted Saber? Meh
could be because I never have been that interested in Sakura, I still will play through it though just to know everything. UBW will probably be close to Fate, will come down to the execution.

As for Fate Route 27 hours to complete ~_~

+ Show Spoiler +
It did a better job with explaining and showing the Shirou and Saber's motivations and relationship and how it changed then the anime. While the 1st H scene turned me off greatly because of the way it was handled (with the obvious yuri pandering BS) once the "magical transfer via sex" was established (I still say this makes no sense because sexual fluids is a stupid fluid for magic to concentrate in) the 2nd one in the Fate route really was nice for how they both reacted to it.Saber, still saying she can't return his feelings but could use the magic transfer as well as her wanting this dream, if only for the night. Shirou desperate to convince her and somewhat hurt by how she framed it but also allowing this dream to happen, if only for the night. Shirou is really the weak point, but then again the Fate universe isn't known for producing protagonists who are in the nice box of "likeable hero" so I guess he gets somewhat of a pass in the end, even though multiple times while playing I wished he would just die.

Creating life is MAGIC so it makes sense that it can be one of the containers for holding and transferring mana!
Liquipedia
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
August 01 2014 10:02 GMT
#80589
On August 01 2014 15:42 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 10:28 Kipsate wrote:
Downside of UBW is how little Illya there is

+ Show Spoiler +
cause rip Illya in UBW quite quickly.

+ Show Spoiler +
literally rip... T.T

lolololol
#freeshauni
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 01 2014 14:17 GMT
#80590
On August 01 2014 12:15 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.


wait what? Scryed? whats this? ZETSUEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, that definitely does not seem like mecha to me. Why does everybody label it as such?

Mostly because of the mecha.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
August 01 2014 14:21 GMT
#80591
On August 01 2014 23:17 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 12:15 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.


wait what? Scryed? whats this? ZETSUEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, that definitely does not seem like mecha to me. Why does everybody label it as such?

Mostly because of the mecha.


but there's not really mecha. Show me the giant robot that guy climbs into and operates to fight with. I always imagined it was more of a supernatural power, and not a mecha b/c there's no like, engineers/technicians, no "pilots", and all that.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 01 2014 15:05 GMT
#80592
On August 01 2014 23:21 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 23:17 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 12:15 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.


wait what? Scryed? whats this? ZETSUEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, that definitely does not seem like mecha to me. Why does everybody label it as such?

Mostly because of the mecha.


but there's not really mecha. Show me the giant robot that guy climbs into and operates to fight with. I always imagined it was more of a supernatural power, and not a mecha b/c there's no like, engineers/technicians, no "pilots", and all that.

Nanoha's a mecha... there's no giant robot that a guy climbs into and operates with. That'd be a bit lewd actually. The robot is human sized.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 01 2014 18:33 GMT
#80593
On August 01 2014 23:21 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 23:17 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 12:15 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.


wait what? Scryed? whats this? ZETSUEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, that definitely does not seem like mecha to me. Why does everybody label it as such?

Mostly because of the mecha.


but there's not really mecha. Show me the giant robot that guy climbs into and operates to fight with. I always imagined it was more of a supernatural power, and not a mecha b/c there's no like, engineers/technicians, no "pilots", and all that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha#Characteristics
The word "mecha" (メカ meka?) is an abbreviation first used in Japanese of the word "mechanical". In Japanese, mecha encompasses all mechanical objects, including cars, guns, computers, and other devices. In this sense, it is extended to humanoid, human-sized robots and such things as the boomers from Bubblegum Crisis, the similar replicants of Blade Runner; even cyborgs can be referred to as mecha. The Japanese use the term "robot" (ロボット robotto?) or "giant robot" to distinguish limbed vehicles from other mechanical devices.

and
[image loading]
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 19:25:04
August 01 2014 19:24 GMT
#80594
On August 02 2014 03:33 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 23:21 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On August 01 2014 23:17 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 12:15 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.


wait what? Scryed? whats this? ZETSUEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, that definitely does not seem like mecha to me. Why does everybody label it as such?

Mostly because of the mecha.


but there's not really mecha. Show me the giant robot that guy climbs into and operates to fight with. I always imagined it was more of a supernatural power, and not a mecha b/c there's no like, engineers/technicians, no "pilots", and all that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha#Characteristics
Show nested quote +
The word "mecha" (メカ meka?) is an abbreviation first used in Japanese of the word "mechanical". In Japanese, mecha encompasses all mechanical objects, including cars, guns, computers, and other devices. In this sense, it is extended to humanoid, human-sized robots and such things as the boomers from Bubblegum Crisis, the similar replicants of Blade Runner; even cyborgs can be referred to as mecha. The Japanese use the term "robot" (ロボット robotto?) or "giant robot" to distinguish limbed vehicles from other mechanical devices.

+ Show Spoiler +
and
[image loading]


That definition just feels way too broad. Like you could basically label almost any anime as mecha using that definition, since they all of have something like that in one form or another.

In any case, Alter Abilities are definitely more supernatural. The only really mecha thing in the whole show is Zetsuei (and possibly Straight Cougar's thing. But still, there's somebody like Kanami who scry's in her dreams...thats absolutely not mecha. I just feel like, just because there's one or possibly 2 instances of mecha's in the show...does not mean it should be labeled a "mecha" show.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 01 2014 19:47 GMT
#80595
On August 02 2014 00:05 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 23:21 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On August 01 2014 23:17 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 12:15 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On August 01 2014 10:20 Sentenal wrote:
On August 01 2014 08:43 AbareKiller wrote:
@Whoever that suggested to me Scryed Thanks, looks pretty good

NP, hope you enjoy it.


wait what? Scryed? whats this? ZETSUEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw, that definitely does not seem like mecha to me. Why does everybody label it as such?

Mostly because of the mecha.


but there's not really mecha. Show me the giant robot that guy climbs into and operates to fight with. I always imagined it was more of a supernatural power, and not a mecha b/c there's no like, engineers/technicians, no "pilots", and all that.

Nanoha's a mecha... there's no giant robot that a guy climbs into and operates with. That'd be a bit lewd actually. The robot is human sized.


Am I missing something, what Nanoha are you talking about?
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 01 2014 20:32 GMT
#80596
As and Strikers really. Nanoha is actually pretty damned mecha.

There is always Force too o/
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 01 2014 20:34 GMT
#80597
Ouji to majou to himegimi to is interesting so far
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 01 2014 20:41 GMT
#80598
On August 02 2014 05:32 Ecael wrote:
As and Strikers really. Nanoha is actually pretty damned mecha.

There is always Force too o/


Guess I never really thought of it that way. Reminds me I need to rewatch but only have the movies on here :<. Also what's happening with the fansubs for Sabagebu!
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
August 01 2014 20:45 GMT
#80599
Yo but seriously F/SN for the girls is silly. Most of them are pretty weak next to the male cast.

Now Tsukihime, on the other hand, is all about the girls. I understand waifu wars there. (PS Akiha>Kohaku>>>>>>the rest)
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 01 2014 20:51 GMT
#80600
Rin best girl.

Started on Tsuhikime, decided to go Ciel route because why not, met Arcueid and 15min later I decided to switch routes. Haven't gone to other side of the moon yet but Kohaku looks p cool.
WriterXiao8~~
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