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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 23 2014 03:47 GMT
#76021
NGNL: + Show Spoiler +
good episode. Liked how they came to the proof that he wasn't foolish lol. Mostly an emotional episode or supposed to be. Wonder what information he was able to get from the warbeasts and such. Hopefully they utilize it well
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 04:03:18
May 23 2014 03:58 GMT
#76022
The TLADT chat always kicks me off randomly.giving me errors -_-

So to Ecael: I was already 3 episodes in when the whole watching the movies over the series was mentioned and while I expect plot holes and things not making sense if you think about it, when those things can render the big choices that the main characters make moot then its a problem.
Never Knows Best.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
May 23 2014 04:15 GMT
#76023
On May 23 2014 12:58 Slaughter wrote:
The TLADT chat always kicks me off randomly.giving me errors -_-

looks like i'm not the only one.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 23 2014 04:16 GMT
#76024
I have a really stable connection to irc w/ mibbit on browser and andchat on phone, I think a bunch of mirc users there still.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 04:18:19
May 23 2014 04:18 GMT
#76025
Hitsugi no Chaika: + Show Spoiler +
liking this anime a lot. Toru and Chaika together huh? lol. Also, rofl at the sister asking why she wasn't included XD


On May 23 2014 12:58 Slaughter wrote:
The TLADT chat always kicks me off randomly.giving me errors -_-

lol. No pattern to the messages? Only been to it once before a while back though I didn't stay long.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 04:26:52
May 23 2014 04:23 GMT
#76026
^ Yea I am really enjoying Chaika as well. Eyebrow girl is too cute and the sister gags (while done plenty of times before) still are funny.

Now I need another series to catch up on among my planned to watch list. I think I will put off the Madoka movie for now. Maybe Haiyore! Nyaruko-san but there are a lot of good series ><
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 23 2014 04:35 GMT
#76027
If you guys are using webclients, use Mibbit. I never had problems getting booted with that, but I did have problems using various other webclients.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 04:51:51
May 23 2014 04:51 GMT
#76028
M3: yes! exciting stuff! lol. + Show Spoiler +
Heito is one scary guy >.> Wonder how they'll get Emiru back to normal. Guess talk no jutsu like in Naruto lol. Having said that, the "Terror fading into Death" title makes me think that Emiru will die since I can't see how they can possibly reverse it as this point. Probably used as a motivator for the rest of the group to work hard to prevent anymore deaths like her. Sad fate that awaits her though maybe it was better than being alive and knowing you'll become an admonition soon enough


On May 23 2014 13:23 Slaughter wrote:
^ Yea I am really enjoying Chaika as well. Eyebrow girl is too cute and the sister gags (while done plenty of times before) still are funny.

Now I need another series to catch up on among my planned to watch list. I think I will put off the Madoka movie for now. Maybe Haiyore! Nyaruko-san but there are a lot of good series ><

ya lol. Working so far
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 10:46:09
May 23 2014 10:28 GMT
#76029
On May 23 2014 13:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 12:58 Slaughter wrote:
The TLADT chat always kicks me off randomly.giving me errors -_-

looks like i'm not the only one.

and i always wondered why IRC rizon hate me. Good to know i'm not the only one.

The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan is complete garbage. If only they continue the haruhi series since I just wanna see Sasaki animated Oh well .. I am also a Haruhi fanboy so i don't really mind the underwhelming continuation after disappearance. I just wanna see one of my favorite shows


The cat in madoka is creepy zero-empathy-evil cool. It's nice to see some fresh perspective not always the goody-cho-cho type of magical creature.

this is a quote
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 23 2014 12:12 GMT
#76030
Way to go for irc would be to just download mirc and set it up once so you have it running in the background constantly. It's like Winzip, it tells you that it's only 30 days trial and that you need to buy it but you don't actually have to.

On the madoka stuff: I'm not sure if the show needs them to be little girls. I mean the entire premise of the show is to make people think it's something different by the way it is portrayed, at least early on. To make people think it's just another cute, magical girl series. In that sense, yeah it obviously needs them to be girls. + Show Spoiler +
I mean when I watched it I didn't know about it so I went through the first 1 or 2 episodes and thought it's really boring and almost dropped it, suddenly episode 3 happened and I'm like "oooookay.... but it's going to be fine. Sayaka is going to use her wish for crippled boy and Madoka is going to use her wish for Mami and everything's going to be fine, right?" and we all know how that ended up. So I was really suprised when I watched it because I wasn't expecting that at all and that's usually a good thing for me if it's not just unexpected because stupid.

From a story's point of view I don't think so, Sent said something about it and I've never watched what he mentioned so I wouldn't know but Matrix is fairly close from a stories premise as well I guess?
From a characters point of view... probably. Madoka would be the most annoying shit to ever exist if she wasn't a 14 year old (idk, something like that?) little dipshit. I spent a lot of time yelling at my TV and begging her to just get her shit together and be done with it instead of constantly whining "oh what should I do" until I realized that she's a little girl and not supposed to be able to get her shit together, just like Sansa from GoT. Prime example for this in a negative way would be deathnote imo. Same thing but you'd expect him to NOT behave like a 3 year old little girl and be done with it instead of constantly whining.

I also don't think it was all that shocking or at least shocking isn't the word I'd use for it but I can't think of anything better really.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
May 23 2014 13:02 GMT
#76031
Or just use trillian IRC plugin, not perfect but works well enough and don't need to manage multiple apps.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 23 2014 13:48 GMT
#76032
On May 23 2014 21:12 Toadesstern wrote:Matrix is fairly close from a stories premise as well I guess?


Are you taking about The Matrix? Because The Matrix is not at all like Madoka, wtf? o_O
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 14:04:54
May 23 2014 14:04 GMT
#76033
On May 23 2014 22:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 21:12 Toadesstern wrote:Matrix is fairly close from a stories premise as well I guess?


Are you taking about The Matrix? Because The Matrix is not at all like Madoka, wtf? o_O

I think he was referring to madoka being loli-jesus and neo being cyber-jesus. Something like that. Or maybe i am so wrong.
this is a quote
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 15:22:55
May 23 2014 15:22 GMT
#76034
nah, I was referring to the part where + Show Spoiler +
in matrix the humans ended up as energy farm / source for aliens as well and you got people fighting that shit in a way that works without people being 14 year old girls.

but I guess it's a little far fetched
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 15:49:28
May 23 2014 15:28 GMT
#76035
True Tears 6

What in the

+ Show Spoiler +
So they may be siblings and there could be no way they will pursue the palpable romantic tension without being incest. Welp this is interesting but i don't them to go through the incest crap. Are you sure you guys ain't trolling me you know i hate "incest".

And Noe is ugh creepy with the belt thing. Anyways this is getting to the point i am getting a lot of cringe and excitement.


Will continue this for now. I guess but for now i am switching to Nodame Cantabile. I'll just finish 1 ep of Nodame Cantabile and be back at it. :D

By the way Nodame Cantabile is entertaining + Show Spoiler [why] +
They are all retarded
. why did i not pick this up earlier ?.
this is a quote
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 23 2014 15:52 GMT
#76036
On May 24 2014 00:22 Toadesstern wrote:
nah, I was referring to the part where + Show Spoiler +
in matrix the humans ended up as energy farm / source for aliens as well and you got people fighting that shit in a way that works without people being 14 year old girls.

but I guess it's a little far fetched


.......wut Toad lol T__T;
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
May 23 2014 16:07 GMT
#76037
The "problem" with Madoka is that the story is kind of non-existent outside some very generic shit, but it's wrapped up in a lot of production value and good atmosphere and decent sound track and fantastic visuals, which means you are able to enjoy it decently without thinking about the story too much.

I much preferred the third movie to the series, though that relies on "shock value" for lack of a better word even more than the series, but it was executed better. Also it pissed off people who liked the series apparently so that's a plus for me.
TranslatorBaa!
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
May 23 2014 16:31 GMT
#76038
On May 23 2014 12:08 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 12:04 maru~ wrote:
On May 23 2014 11:40 Slaughter wrote:
On May 23 2014 11:35 maru~ wrote:
On May 23 2014 11:25 Slaughter wrote:
I agree with Sent, if Madoka needs the characters all to be middle school girls to work then its a weak story.

Why?

On May 23 2014 11:25 Slaughter wrote:
I think with some minor adjustments you could make it work with adults.

I don't see it. Can you elaborate?


How does Madoka rely on shock value anyway?

The basic story would still work with adults. A lot of the things in Madoka are things that can easily be also felt by adults. Hell the whole theme of "doing harm for the greater good" is echoed in another anime the author worked on: Fate/Zero.

You could take the premise and use adult protagonists, but then it would unfold quite differently (unless the "adult" protagonists have the mind of a middle school girl), because obviously the mind of a little girl and her thoughts and emotions when it comes to certain key aspects of the show differ a lot from that of an adult.
Madoka was written with little girls as the protagonists in mind.

I don't agree. Could you give me some examples as to how the plot would only work with the "mind of a little girl"? I've already mentioned a counter point with Kamen Rider Ryuki, which has a great number of parallels within it with Madoka, from premise to characters.

+ Show Spoiler +
Little girls are a lot more naive and gullible. I don't think it would be possible for QB to deceive adults the same way. I also don't think that adults would react the same way to the situations the girls were put into. If you replace them with adults people would complain that the characters act like little girls and ask "why did they do X/why didn't they do Y" etc. (well, actually people are already doing that anyway). Example of that is what Toad said about Madoka.

Another thing is that this show explores how innocent little girls would react to disheartening situations, suffering etc. Now I know that this isn't really related to plot. It's just that if someone says that he'd like the show a lot more with adults as characters to me it sounds like "I would like the show a lot more if it were a different show".

Haven't seen KRR so can't comment on that.

On May 23 2014 21:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On the madoka stuff: I'm not sure if the show needs them to be little girls. I mean the entire premise of the show is to make people think it's something different by the way it is portrayed, at least early on. To make people think it's just another cute, magical girl series. In that sense, yeah it obviously needs them to be girls. + Show Spoiler +
I mean when I watched it I didn't know about it so I went through the first 1 or 2 episodes and thought it's really boring and almost dropped it, suddenly episode 3 happened and I'm like "oooookay.... but it's going to be fine. Sayaka is going to use her wish for crippled boy and Madoka is going to use her wish for Mami and everything's going to be fine, right?" and we all know how that ended up. So I was really suprised when I watched it because I wasn't expecting that at all and that's usually a good thing for me if it's not just unexpected because stupid.

I keep reading this everywhere. Even if you don't know the show is written by Urobuchi, the very first scene + Show Spoiler +
depicts a visually bizarre dream sequence with creepy music and a girl in a hopeless fight against a grotesque monstrosity. Okay, I get that you might not expect it to turn as dark as it did, but it's pretty damn obvious right from the start that it isn't going to be a happy-go-lucky story.



Anyway, I thought this was quite an interesting read so might as well share it (don't open this spoiler if you haven't finished Madoka): + Show Spoiler +
http://listlessink.wordpress.com/2011/04/23/birth-of-a-goddess-madokas-path-to-nirvana-a-study-of-buddhism/


ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
May 23 2014 17:20 GMT
#76039
I feels that most of Madoka's problem is from Homura. Her standard "misunderstood mystery girl" type gave something reviewers can hook on to, but also limited the whole series to something of a pattern. If Urobuchi did something conventional and creative with her character the whole series would have more potential.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 18:04:30
May 23 2014 17:40 GMT
#76040
We've had people comparing angel beats to buddhism too, if you look hard enough you can find anything.

EDIT - I sound a bit too dismissive with that I guess, was an interesting read. Though the concepts used to show the similarities are fairly universal and hardly limited to Buddhism.
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