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Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
May 17 2014 08:11 GMT
#75681
Kuriboh mofukkas + Show Spoiler +
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"You sons of a silly person"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50612 Posts
May 17 2014 08:17 GMT
#75682
On May 17 2014 16:53 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 16:20 BigFan wrote:
On May 17 2014 16:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 17 2014 16:06 goody153 wrote:
On May 17 2014 15:30 Sterlymobile wrote:
I watched Yugi-Oh it can't be better than that.

which yugioh ? there is a lot of them

the original series of course.

nice lol. + Show Spoiler +
My favourite card in the show: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/The_Winged_Dragon_of_Ra_(original)

Sadly you can't play the card in legit games.


blue eyes white dragon bitches.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
May 17 2014 09:33 GMT
#75683
Ra is meh. + Show Spoiler +
Have you seen how the Gods were destroyed in the final duel of the first season. Think the season with the bikes had even more stupid OP stuff.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
May 17 2014 09:36 GMT
#75684
On May 17 2014 18:33 blahz0r wrote:
Ra is meh. + Show Spoiler +
Have you seen how the Gods were destroyed in the final duel of the first season. Think the season with the bikes had even more stupid OP stuff.

At least those cards were usable like the stardust dragon.
this is a quote
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
May 17 2014 10:22 GMT
#75685
I wanna say Ping Pong is AOTS but then again there is Mushihi and Jojo.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 17 2014 11:39 GMT
#75686
I never watched yugioh, but I used to play that game religiously back in the days. Spend 2k dollars for crush card and a dad return deck, lol.
Skol
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 17 2014 13:56 GMT
#75687
ah who doesnt go through the phase of addicted to yugioh. the manga is legendary (up until some point it started to go downhill...).

is there no mushishi this week? I still havent watched #4 and #5 lol. It is rather odd for this season i am only chasing JoJo, mushishi, ping pong and NGNL. Still have 2 episodes knight of sidonia downloaded but i havent given them a go. I guess I am content enough with those 4 lol.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
May 17 2014 13:59 GMT
#75688
I thought there was an anime original episode for Mushishi this week? I haven't watched yet
I post only when my brain works.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 17 2014 15:22 GMT
#75689
On May 17 2014 16:53 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 16:20 BigFan wrote:
On May 17 2014 16:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 17 2014 16:06 goody153 wrote:
On May 17 2014 15:30 Sterlymobile wrote:
I watched Yugi-Oh it can't be better than that.

which yugioh ? there is a lot of them

the original series of course.

nice lol. + Show Spoiler +
My favourite card in the show: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/The_Winged_Dragon_of_Ra_(original)

Sadly you can't play the card in legit games.

well, I guess I can see why lol.

On May 17 2014 17:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 16:53 goody153 wrote:
On May 17 2014 16:20 BigFan wrote:
On May 17 2014 16:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 17 2014 16:06 goody153 wrote:
On May 17 2014 15:30 Sterlymobile wrote:
I watched Yugi-Oh it can't be better than that.

which yugioh ? there is a lot of them

the original series of course.

nice lol. + Show Spoiler +
My favourite card in the show: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/The_Winged_Dragon_of_Ra_(original)

Sadly you can't play the card in legit games.


blue eyes white dragon bitches.

Kaiba, is that you?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 15:51:58
May 17 2014 15:35 GMT
#75690
On May 17 2014 07:55 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 06:23 IceHism wrote:
On May 17 2014 04:20 Ecael wrote:
I mean, I recall people have managed to construe arguments about how Twilight is a literary masterpiece that discusses poignant issues in segregation and gender roles. If that's the kind of standard you want to hold things up to, then sure, rettousei stands a pretty good chance at being what you called it. What was it again? A series about politics, magic system and character interaction?

The politics of the series boils down to Japanese nationalism. Notice how Japan, with its magical (literally!) technological superiority, keeps its independence while holding back the great enemy that is a combined state of China and Korea. The said state, btw, is filled with copycats for Japanese technology and tries to beat Japanese quality with quantity. Poor Japan has itself an untrustworthy ally in the US. Oh, and the EU doesn't exist. Nor does Russia really.

Yeah. Politics.

We could make a decent case of it reflecting Japanese youth mentality though, want to try that?

Let's move onto the magic system next, I guess. A lot of people have a fascination with Clarke's words in "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Natural result? Magic casted by technology. Nevermind how it is already fairly rampant in Western scifi-esque stuff, even in otaku culture there has been a ton of this already. Though among them, rettousei does a decent job working out a rather detailed system for magic. Certainly more effort put in there then say, Index, where things happen because we say they happen.

Unfortunately the system doesn't really get used for much, Tatsuya drops random talks about random shit that affects magic use, proves himself immune to all of those things, beats other people up using loopholes that only he can exploit, etc. The intrigues of the background there doesn't get used for anything beyond showing how Tatsuya is the second coming of Jesus-Kirito and resurrects himself while nuking an army from across the sea, all without breaking a sweat.

Character interaction...umm...you mean how everyone hits on Tatsuya, except for people that audience/readership don't seem to care, so a male character is introduced every time indifference rears its ugly head and a girl gets shipped another direction. After that, two more girls show up after Tatsuya's dick. Par for the course really, if anything, I have to acknowledge the effort of not just adding people to a harem, but adding guys to catch those who failed out of Tatsuya's harem.

Amusingly enough, all of this puts the series at about the level one'd expect for a webnovel that found a publisher from being popular enough. So I guess it isn't so bad after all. I'll take my original assessment back. You aren't illiterate, and most certainly have a literacy level above that of an elementary school student.

You are just about as literate as an eighth grader, sharing the same level of chuu2 thought as them.


I don't know whether you're the one trying to make me laugh now. If that is your definition of nationalism, then I worry about how you're going to judge other things. I found every nation in Mahouka equally contemptible as they are all presented as what they are, corrupted and power hungry nations. If you think the GAA, Japan, or the USNA are anything resembling or representing today's situation, I think I'm gonna end up crying in laughter. I'm not seeing any country in Mahouka being glorified not only because they aren't but that in the end, IT DOESNT MATTER AT ALL. Japan is simply the place where the MC lives and its already explained how the GAA got to how it is: the Yotsuba destroyed Dahan. You have to be dumb to not see that the world in Mahouka is dark, twisted, and messed up.

Simplifying to Clarke's word literally works for any story. I see no point in referring to this. Sure, its true but that doesn't stop it from being not very useful. Its like Godwin's law, true but not useful.

Tatsuya is a god character as intended so I have no idea why you are mad at all. He and his sister parallel Shiva and Parvarti exactly to their story and personality. Their powers are also all accounted for by the magic system. Excessively powerful? Yes. Loopholes? No. Again if you want to simplify to Clarke's, okay that's not my problem. I'm not here for that. Let me read all the flowery shit And infodump stuff while you go watch or read what you like. If you don't like OP characters, it's not my problem.

Okay, I'm not even gonna comment on the harem stuff when you don't even have proof from the actual text. Its so exceedingly different from what the story is presenting and so general that I'm gonna cry. When a character not named Honoka or Miyuki actually wants to jump on his dick right here and now, (even then, a harem of two or three people? That's a shitty harem and shouldn't be considered one at all) I'll take this seriously. As judging from what you're saying, it sounds like you're a really delusional shipper with their "OMG THIS CHARACTER did this shit for this character, they MUST love each other romantically, non-romantic interactions between guys and girls don't exist!"

I don't take ad hominem seriously. If you want me to have the level of reading as an 8th grader, then okay. You can think what you want as it really doesn't make a difference. I'm not here to make people like Mahouka but I'll discuss it with anyone who wants to say more than bash it with dumb arguments without actual text used in their context. And yes, you will have to use the fan translation or directly translate from the book.

Eh, nationalism might've been a misleading word to use, but setting wise, the Japanese-centric worldview is a common trend with first the manga medium, then the otaku culture in general. The point is that the setting for the series is a caricature of the real world with very specific slants for the targeted audience. While in rettousei's case, Japan is not portrayed as a saintly nation that upholds honor and righteousness. It is kept around with random plot devices as to explain why the series takes place in it when the answer is as simple as that it was written for Japanese people.

Even accounting for that, a certain level of nationalism is present. The situation being described in rettousei isn't a reflection of how the world is today, but a project that the audience can easily relate to. Similar to how, randomly, in Alicization for SAO the bad guys turned out to be from Chinese and Korean servers, with some Americans mixed in. It reflects a particularly narrow and warped view of the world, one that you would see among the nationalist netizen spams on 2ch. Oh right, I am going to assume GAA is that China+Korea entity because I can't be arsed to remember nation names in the series in another language. How GAA got to the state that they are in now doesn't particularly matter, you could attach all sorts of explanations in the series for the tongue-in-cheek poke at the state of that nation, the intent of the author for that is fairly obvious given the audience. If you should take the cause of the downfall of that nation seriously, it only gets more hilarious because it is perpetrated by a single house of the mighty Japan.

So how does any of this reflect what you call good politics? Pandering to the readers to give them situations that they can easily relate to isn't really a problem, but it is hardly what you could call good either. Just because people die in acts of national interests doesn't make the interaction between nations any less juvenile. Even the situation within Japan itself is easily boiled down to a fake class struggle that is backed by foreign interests. Again, the kind of conspiracy theory that 2ch vippers love to eat up.

I am not simplifying anything to Clarke's law. Yeah I could've done without that Clarke quote but I thought it was something to show for people's fascination of mixing technology and magic. The magic system of rettousei was fine and definitely one of the draws for readers early on. It was a cute bit of lore, even if not particularly original, but it never really took off on its own. The system is elaborated pretty much purely to explain why Tatsuya is god and for no other reason. You know, the kind of chuu2 shit with kids imagining up settings for their Marty Stu. Loopholes? Yes. When something applies to literally every other character in the series except for this one, where [insert random reason] is used to justify it. That's a loophole.

If author actually stuck in the Hindu mythology reference in at some point then I feel even more justified for not putting up with more of the pain that is this series to bash on it properly. From what my brain retained up to around that American special force captain arc, there was minimal myth references. It is one thing if such references are planned in advance, but I saw zero signs of it in the early parts of the series. If that's your interpretation of the two's relationship, then I have nothing to say on that matter.

You realize the source was in webnovel format, chapter by chapter, with plenty of time for the guy to reflect to cater to reader preferences as much as he wants, right? You also realize that male characters are introduced one to two vols ahead, with minimal descriptions about them, to be fleshed in when they are needed to be paired with a girl, right? Well, that's probably more subjective than I would like to admit, so I will just have to ask you to wait until we are through with the anime and have people talk about how they felt on the matter. If you want to stick only to the source when that happens, that's fine too, but I suspect there won't be many other than ragz who has the heart to work through that series.

There isn't much to take from source to argue line by line except how characters should be shipped, and unlike what you seem to think, I don't actually care about the ship since the only character that I did like is still getting page space from what I heard, so...well, I could waste time going on about how hard the author is playing up the fake? incest, but if you don't think that it is going to happen after all that has happened in like, the first 7 vols, I doubt I can convince you other


I don't have much to say here so I'll get straight to the point.

If you mean good politics as in realistic politics, I don't believe politics is so simple that you can put it in fiction. Mahouka politics = fun politics
A light novel doesn't get to become the #2(SAO) or #3(Mahouka) best selling in 2013 by only appealing to 2ch.

The myth references are there and pretty blatent. Parvarti in Chinese/japanese is translated to snow queen or ice queen. Mahesvara + demon right + divine left = god of destruction and the creator. Shiva uses a trident. There are many scenes that parallel the Shiva/parvarti story and its likely you won't see the references if you didn't know them to begin with(the ones I listed are the more obvious ones). There are also other mythical references in the series, Lina being a mix of a Celtic hero and the hindu god Kali.

Im not waiting for the anime to end so people will discuss it. Volume 1-8 doesn't even get to the overarching plot of the series and really just acts as an introduction. i believe the plot begins moving starting from vol 9. Its literally the longest introduction in a series that I have seen. With the anime covering volume 1-7 (allegedly), there will be a lot of eye candy but people are gonna be confused as fuck wondering what the hell was the point of all that. Now just remember Madhouse butchering it so far, and my expectations have already gone down the drain. I just hope its a decent anime, as its not even a good adaption.

With dengeki bunko pressure + word in the afterwords, Satou said that he's not gonna take it that far (in reference to actual incest)

I'm well aware that Mahouka started as a webnovel. A very popular one as well.

Now I need to rage because Mushishi and Sidonia sub's aren't out yet and don't want to continue this any longer.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 17 2014 17:22 GMT
#75691
If you find that politics fun then whatever, I've said enough about what I thought of it.

Given how light novel sales spikes hard enough with anime as well as the pathetic state of the Japanese publishing industry, I'd have to say no, you do make quite a fair bit with just throwing in baits. The rest just comes down to how easy the stuff is to read for the masses. Can't even really look at awards as a sign of anything considering how publishers routinely have random awards as a part of their advertising scheme.

Oh, those were meant to be mythological references? They are so overused in the industry that I simply disregarded them. If that was the intention though, it does explain that heavyhanded use of rubi. Still exactly how one would write something catered for chuu2 though and hurts just as much to read.

lol 8 vol introduction. Let's see how fan opinions are across the sea at the end of all this. I already highly doubt that the response will be anything like yours other than from some specific vippers.

Dengeki made him pussy out? lol. If we go by that hindu myth line, iirc eventually Parvarti and Shiva does wed. Why shy out of it? Playing up the pseudo incest and then caving to publisher pressure is honestly fairly laughable.

This is actually fairly enlightening to me, because I've wondered why there was a small part of the following for rettousei that was basically cultish. A good reminder to how chuu2 style and otaku preferences basically come hand in hand.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
May 17 2014 17:59 GMT
#75692
Nisekoi 19 (anime)

+ Show Spoiler +
Not as godly as how episode 17 portrayed the manga but still good nontheless. Just disappointed since this was my favorite out of all nisekoi mini stories.


Kirisaki so obvious .. and kosaki is a tryhard like EE :D


If only raku wasn't stupid when every girl is YOLOING on him.
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
May 17 2014 18:33 GMT
#75693
Nanana... WTF they dumbed down all the dungeons. I guess that means we won't get a proper Yuu arc...

Well, they already ruined Butterko so...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 17 2014 20:07 GMT
#75694
On May 18 2014 03:33 ragz_gt wrote:
Nanana... WTF they dumbed down all the dungeons. I guess that means we won't get a proper Yuu arc...

Well, they already ruined Butterko so...


They are doing bad changes? Damn, Nanana is one of my favorites this season.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
May 17 2014 20:14 GMT
#75695
Nanana thus far has been really underwhelming. The dungeons are shit. The way it's presented, they basically take one look at them and solve them instantly. Characters range from annoying (club pres and vice pres) to totally pointless (delinquent guy). The scheming is pretty pathetic and is also impressively blatant when the they actually attempt to provide the viewer with hints.

At least the loli detective is amusing. As far as I'm concerned, she's been carrying the show thus far. Nanana is ok too, but I still suspect this is largely because of lack of appearances.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 17 2014 20:21 GMT
#75696
Captain Earth is such a fun anime. Each episode gets better and better (even if outcomes can be guessed). Can't wait to see what else they have in store in the future episodes :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 20:33:33
May 17 2014 20:26 GMT
#75697
Mekaku City actors 06 was nothing but an Ene-festival. That is to say it was an amazing episode.

And I start to understand the situation
+ Show Spoiler [guesswork] +
So Ene died and the genius-programmer-teacher "made" her?
And MC + girl with a shawl were a couple and Ene + ... I forgot his name... were a couple or about to be a couple as well?
And at least Ene knows about Kido and Kano. Not sure from the other side but why didn't she say a thing? Or do both parties remember and it was left out? But I'm fairly sure the first line in this spoiler is how this went down so far. The girl with a shawl is dead as well as we know from episode 05, so something happened, right?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
May 17 2014 20:50 GMT
#75698
So after a lackluster Kanojo Flag first episode, the second one was quite good. There was some plot development and now some mystery into the story. Looking good so far hopefully doesn't disappoint.
"You sons of a silly person"
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 20:52:14
May 17 2014 20:50 GMT
#75699
Last episode of unicorn was good, I'm satisfied.

+ Show Spoiler +
SHIELD+ Show Spoiler +
FUNNELS


Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 17 2014 21:39 GMT
#75700
On May 18 2014 05:50 Sterlymobile wrote:
So after a lackluster Kanojo Flag first episode, the second one was quite good. There was some plot development and now some mystery into the story. Looking good so far hopefully doesn't disappoint.

told ya guys the episodes after the first one were a crapton better than the first one.
I mean it's still super stupid chibi-sd-like harem... kind of... but it got better.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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