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Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
April 30 2014 21:08 GMT
#74341
So Black Bullet is "same" story as Gargantia. How disapointing.
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 30 2014 21:13 GMT
#74342
I actually thought Black bullet was going to end with that episode. Wouldn't have minded, really. Then the tricycle came along and I was "this is going to be something stupid, isn't it".
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 21:42:51
April 30 2014 21:13 GMT
#74343
On May 01 2014 06:07 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 03:43 Ecael wrote:
On May 01 2014 03:25 sfasdfasdf wrote:
Do we have any idea what the fuck Ougi is? She/He obviously isn't really Oshino's niece, and doesn't even appear to be human from the looks of them. Has anything been revealed in the novels yet? And where could Oshino have gone? Will he come back?

Huge spoilers but yes, Ougi has been revealed. Oshino's location has been revealed. + Show Spoiler [Owarimonogatari part 3] +
Oshino comes back

On May 01 2014 03:25 andyrau wrote:
'messed up' is an awful way to put it imo
she cuts off parts of herself that she either considers to be 'toxic' or problematic so that she doesn't have to deal with them. I can't see how compartmentalizing a part of your personality you dislike is fucked up in any way. it just displays a desire to become a better person, and everyone does it, though not to the extremes that hanekawa takes it.

I don't think she's out of her mind at all and it's kind of ridiculous to say that any decisions derived from her remaining feelings aren't genuine and should be discarded.

Except that isn't all that she did, cue the entire discussion with Gahara-san during neko shiro over breakfast and food flavors. Reread that and come back. The kizu and neko kuro Hanekawa isn't any better than Araragi, who is at best a self-martyring idiot who acts entirely on impulse without thinking about the consequences. Except you have that topped up with her so called desire to act in a right manner. Leading to the actions in kizu that can't be called anything short of insane. There isn't something like love at first sight at Kizu. She saw a wounded Araragi and helped him, without having any feelings for him other than the fact that it is what a good person would do in such a situation. She kind of tries to change a bit, but in reality that's all she ever does until she worked out her issues in neko shiro. So no, I can't consider anything that she did before neko shiro to be worth a damn.

iirc she sees food as a simple form of sustenance rather than something that should be cherished and enjoyed, hence no expectations in general in regards to food. I don't see anything excessively wrong with that - it's definitely unhealthy by normal terms but nothing so catastrophic as to classify her as insane.

I may be wrong because I read it a while ago, but in shiro, her letter (to neko) states that by cordoning off parts of herself, she's sacrificing a portion of her nature to preserve the truest parts of her character. hence, the parts of her left that actually express something are still valid indicators of what her preferences are.

she also states that she's liked araragi even before that spring break because he's able/willing to face his own shortcomings so brazenly, a complete opposite of the way she deals with hers. I don't see why this is an invalid expression of emotion, especially because she's writing the letter as she's coming to terms with her abnormalities.

That did not only apply to food. That was the basis of her worldview. It was painstakingly established through kizu and neko shiro+kuro.

She didn't say anything about preserving her own character btw, the line about about how she'd keep shedding away parts of herself until she breaks.

While her letter to the cat said that if she were to put a time when she started liking him during the entire affair of Kizu and went on for a bit, that letter and her talk at the end of Bake both refer to the said love as a product of seeing him with someone else. The former referred to how he would save Kisshot and the latter about his relationship with Gahara-san. She never really focuses on Araragi as she did on what he did that she couldn't. Can't help but see that as not so much romantic as it is her longing for what she couldn't be like.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 30 2014 22:28 GMT
#74344
On May 01 2014 06:13 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 06:07 andyrau wrote:
On May 01 2014 03:43 Ecael wrote:
On May 01 2014 03:25 sfasdfasdf wrote:
Do we have any idea what the fuck Ougi is? She/He obviously isn't really Oshino's niece, and doesn't even appear to be human from the looks of them. Has anything been revealed in the novels yet? And where could Oshino have gone? Will he come back?

Huge spoilers but yes, Ougi has been revealed. Oshino's location has been revealed. + Show Spoiler [Owarimonogatari part 3] +
Oshino comes back

On May 01 2014 03:25 andyrau wrote:
'messed up' is an awful way to put it imo
she cuts off parts of herself that she either considers to be 'toxic' or problematic so that she doesn't have to deal with them. I can't see how compartmentalizing a part of your personality you dislike is fucked up in any way. it just displays a desire to become a better person, and everyone does it, though not to the extremes that hanekawa takes it.

I don't think she's out of her mind at all and it's kind of ridiculous to say that any decisions derived from her remaining feelings aren't genuine and should be discarded.

Except that isn't all that she did, cue the entire discussion with Gahara-san during neko shiro over breakfast and food flavors. Reread that and come back. The kizu and neko kuro Hanekawa isn't any better than Araragi, who is at best a self-martyring idiot who acts entirely on impulse without thinking about the consequences. Except you have that topped up with her so called desire to act in a right manner. Leading to the actions in kizu that can't be called anything short of insane. There isn't something like love at first sight at Kizu. She saw a wounded Araragi and helped him, without having any feelings for him other than the fact that it is what a good person would do in such a situation. She kind of tries to change a bit, but in reality that's all she ever does until she worked out her issues in neko shiro. So no, I can't consider anything that she did before neko shiro to be worth a damn.

iirc she sees food as a simple form of sustenance rather than something that should be cherished and enjoyed, hence no expectations in general in regards to food. I don't see anything excessively wrong with that - it's definitely unhealthy by normal terms but nothing so catastrophic as to classify her as insane.

I may be wrong because I read it a while ago, but in shiro, her letter (to neko) states that by cordoning off parts of herself, she's sacrificing a portion of her nature to preserve the truest parts of her character. hence, the parts of her left that actually express something are still valid indicators of what her preferences are.

she also states that she's liked araragi even before that spring break because he's able/willing to face his own shortcomings so brazenly, a complete opposite of the way she deals with hers. I don't see why this is an invalid expression of emotion, especially because she's writing the letter as she's coming to terms with her abnormalities.

That did not only apply to food. That was the basis of her worldview. It was painstakingly established through kizu and neko shiro+kuro.

She didn't say anything about preserving her own character btw, the line about about how she'd keep shedding away parts of herself until she breaks.

While her letter to the cat said that if she were to put a time when she started liking him during the entire affair of Kizu and went on for a bit, that letter and her talk at the end of Bake both refer to the said love as a product of seeing him with someone else. The former referred to how he would save Kisshot and the latter about his relationship with Gahara-san. She never really focuses on Araragi as she did on what he did that she couldn't. Can't help but see that as not so much romantic as it is her longing for what she couldn't be like.

for accuracy:
+ Show Spoiler +
It is because I have been turning my eyes away from inconvenient truths and cutting my heart away from myself ever since my youth.
[...]
I turned my back on malice and misfortune.
That is not self-protection, but self-sacrifice, I think — by cutting away the inconvenient ‘me’, I was preserving myself.

+ Show Spoiler +
In the end, I have never once told him that I love him.
I simply fell in love, and became lovelorn, all by myself.
To be honest, it has always felt strange to me, the way I became so fascinated by him even though I had never spoken to him before spring break, and how, even now, I am still deeply, stubbornly in love with him, but I finally understand it now.
He was such a radiant figure to me, because I knew of no one else who would face his own weaknesses so directly.
He was so dazzling, I would be blinded if I looked straight at him.
[...]
The feelings I have for him are the only things I have not cut away.
Even when I became you, I still deeply loved Araragi-kun.
…As he tells me, he saved the dying Shinobu-chan even as he cried in fear of death.
If it had been me, I probably would have saved her with a smile.
Yes, that was it. If there was one moment when I truly fell in love with him, it would be when I saw him fight Shinobu-chan to the death, even as he cried.
Because I have never cried before.


at first I was discussing this because I thought I remembered something wrong/interpreted it wrong, but then I got annoyed and looked it up.
anyhow I guess I'll chalk this up as a difference in perspective.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
April 30 2014 22:36 GMT
#74345
Oh, early on in that letter she did say that. Forgot about it. A bit further in she mentions how at this point there isn't even much of that left.

It reads so much more like romantic love in English lol, even when she does call it romance from time to time in JP it always felt off.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 23:01:56
April 30 2014 23:01 GMT
#74346
no game no life 4 yissssssss so good

black bullet pretty meh :T
:)
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
April 30 2014 23:38 GMT
#74347
Chaika 4

+ Show Spoiler +
Was that a wound/scar on her neck that looked like her head was separated from the body at some point? From when the two girls were in the bath. Looked like she had a faint line running through her neck.
Never Knows Best.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 01 2014 00:04 GMT
#74348
no game no life has to the sis-con anime of the year lol so far so good, a little dragged out of this episode though.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 01 2014 00:07 GMT
#74349
Its not really a siscon. Its pretty clear and out in the open how he feels about Shiro. If anything, hes just looking to get laid, and he doesnt want it to be his sister -_-
Skol
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 01 2014 00:18 GMT
#74350
it depends on what kind of siscon you are. They hold hands. my world is a happy world.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 00:34:40
May 01 2014 00:33 GMT
#74351
On May 01 2014 09:04 BurningSera wrote:
no game no life has to the sis-con anime of the year lol so far so good, a little dragged out of this episode though.

If anything it's more of a brocon imo. Shiro is a lot more interested in developing that part of their relationship lol.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
May 01 2014 04:08 GMT
#74352
Best Akame chapter in a long time imo.
Liquipedia
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 01 2014 04:44 GMT
#74353
On May 01 2014 13:08 Spazer wrote:
Best Akame chapter in a long time imo.

Well it's nice when + Show Spoiler +
it's not a "good" guy getting killed or raped or what have you for once.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 01 2014 04:46 GMT
#74354
No game no life is a good anime, just personally not a fan of the excessive amounts of pink colour in the anime
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
May 01 2014 04:51 GMT
#74355
On May 01 2014 13:44 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 13:08 Spazer wrote:
Best Akame chapter in a long time imo.

Well it's nice when + Show Spoiler +
it's not a "good" guy getting killed or raped or what have you for once.

+ Show Spoiler +
I couldn't care less about the deaths in this chapter. They're all minor characters.

The reunion between the sisters (again) was decent enough. But the real kicker was Kurome's bit at the end of the chapter. That was particularly well done.
Liquipedia
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 05:01:37
May 01 2014 05:00 GMT
#74356
On May 01 2014 13:51 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 13:44 RuskiPanda wrote:
On May 01 2014 13:08 Spazer wrote:
Best Akame chapter in a long time imo.

Well it's nice when + Show Spoiler +
it's not a "good" guy getting killed or raped or what have you for once.

+ Show Spoiler +
I couldn't care less about the deaths in this chapter. They're all minor characters.

The reunion between the sisters (again) was decent enough. But the real kicker was Kurome's bit at the end of the chapter. That was particularly well done.

+ Show Spoiler +
True enough, I just liked Wild Hunt getting what was coming to them since they were more caricatures than decent antagonists. Way too one-dimensional with the depravity for its own sake.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 01 2014 05:22 GMT
#74357
Started reading This. It's a manga about several people trying to make it through their prison sentences, and it's pretty good. It's dark, but it doesn't wallow in it for shock and more or less just has its setup as something dark.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 06:21:54
May 01 2014 05:53 GMT
#74358
Anyone here watching Akuma No Riddle?

Black Bullet: + Show Spoiler +
41.2% corroded already? nooooo enju!!!!!!!!!!! Well, I'm hoping this isn't a sad anime
. This episode could've definitely been made into 2 episodes or so but at least the pace is fast so you don't wait as much for stuff to happen lol.

On May 01 2014 08:38 Slaughter wrote:
Chaika 4

+ Show Spoiler +
Was that a wound/scar on her neck that looked like her head was separated from the body at some point? From when the two girls were in the bath. Looked like she had a faint line running through her neck.

+ Show Spoiler +
hmm it's quite possible. I also wondered the same though torture was the first thing that came to mind. I guess she was dead after all but something healed her back up. Maybe the first part of the first episode would be a good idea to revisit to see what she was talking to?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
May 01 2014 07:51 GMT
#74359
ngnl 4
+ Show Spoiler +
THEM PHOENIX WRIGHT REFERENCES LOL
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 01 2014 07:55 GMT
#74360
On May 01 2014 16:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
ngnl 4
+ Show Spoiler +
THEM PHOENIX WRIGHT REFERENCES LOL

+ Show Spoiler [No Game No Life 04] +
The Civ reference was awesome too.
Skol
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