Anime Discussion Thread - Page 3369

the best girl won in the end but she left anyway, I don't think Haruki took the "consolation" prize, Setsuna just felt like being there for him I suppose, she knew she lost a long time ago

More pilots, Rei and Asuka with totally different personalities and all the different angels, some with pretty interesting designs were a good addition and then the fourth being added was great as well since I felt the plot was moving forward and how will Shinji react to it and such but I feel it started to lose potential at that point or shortly after. Shinji being such a closed individual, running like a gazillion times and such was ok at first but got tiresome when it kept on happening. Asuka was great in her role but then once she got depressed, it would've made for a great team building episode but that never came to be. Rei's past and the fact that there are other vessels so the soul gets moved from one part to another was ok I guess and was also unexpected but her personality didn't change much aside from telling Shinji that she's glad he's good when he was in the hospital and crying at one point but not knowing the reason for it.

Then the dead sea scrolls and the whole angel idea. We were never told/shown etc... what was in the scrolls. There was only talk about this human instrumentality project and how it's unification of the soul but angels, their origin, reasoning for their attacks etc... were never explained which is something I was looking forward to. Are we supposed to assume they are being sent from God? I mean, the name angels and other religious references were because they were "interesting and exotic". Same with that last angel. I mean wtf, angels were killing them then the last one just gives up and asks Shinji to kill him to have humanity evolve and save it? what? what's with the change and why is the council or rather how is the council even contacting angels since they recruited him (maybe they didn't know? >.>)? The second impact didn't get much significance either. We were told it was a lie and that it was contact with Adam (blows up yet they still have corpse?). I feel they should've explored it more.

Then the last two episodes. What seemed to be a show building up the characters and show their fight for survival against the angels became so individualistic and the last two episodes were so painful to watch. It's like they went, hey, we don't know how to end, let's just say that after the last angel is killed, all our souls are unified then we can just ignore everything else and focus on 3-4 characters and say the main character's problems are fixed in the end. Came out of left field and I was not expecting to see characters being asked questions, almost like they were interrogated. Most of the questions/answers were stuff we already knew. While I understand the ending to some degree, I feel that it destroyed a chunk of the show for me. There never seemed to a link between the angels and human instrumentality project from what I watched. Seemed like they were separate from each other. Heck, we were never even told much about Eva aside from the fact that it was made from Adam or so. What about it working on it's own or when it sucked up Shinji? What about when it saved Shinji? What was the purpose of that? I guess I have some reading to do on this stuff. I kinda wish they worked out the other character's problems unless they did and I missed it because it was putting me to sleep ...

About the angels: the First Ancestral Race created the seeds of life to spread life through the Milky Way. They were created in two varieties, Fruit of life (Adam and angels) and Fruit of knowledge (Lilith and humans).

However, of all the worlds across the galaxy which the First Ancestral Race seeded with life, Earth is unique in that two Seeds of Life accidentally landed on the same planet.

Two Seeds cannot co-exist on the same planet, possibly because the "forbidden union"(As stated in Episode 26') of an Adam-type and Lilith-type Seed would create a god-like being rivaling the power of the First Ancestral Race itself. Because of this, the only remaining Spear on the planet took the initiative to permanently subdue one of the Seeds: Adam. Lilith then spread the primordial ooze - Lilith's own blood, LCL - from which terrestrial life evolved over the course of billions of years, while Adam remained inactive until it was forcibly awoken by the Katsuragi Expedition, resulting in the Second Impact.

About the Evangelions: Unit 01 contains the soul of Shinji's mom, her body was disolved in the LCL during a contact experiment, and it's created from Lilith, not Adam.

hmm it makes a bit more sense the way you explained it. The angels wanted to release Adam so to speak and ya, I guess based on what you wrote, I can kinda see the direction of the show more now. It still feels like a pool of different ideas and I dunno but I feel that they could've done a better job explaining some things. I didn't realize his mom's soul was there but I do recall hearing unit 1 was different, that was it from Lilith and not from Adam(maybe read it somewhere). It would explain how it reacted when he called his mom that one time and other ones as well and how it seems unique to his unit and not the other evangelions. Thanks for the explanation!

Wonder if the whole sister stuff is actually real or he's just using that to get sympathy for his cause. Either way, glad to see that the princess didn't exactly act like a princess and has her own quarky personality lol.