Anime Discussion Thread - Page 3224

I'm semi-taking this as a they won't be playing with the Hibiki story and I mean... I think the potential mystery with Yamato eclipses that of Hibiki. I guess they'll deal with the missing Hakugei by simply expanding 401's capabilities. + Show Spoiler [manga spoilers] +

hmm I see your point and it was something that I wanted to but forgot to mention in my post. I'm not sure why they left Kitamuru, Minori and Ami's feelings as is by the end of the anime. I think part of it is that with all of them, their love isn't available anymore. Kitamuru's previous love left to America and I think he was on the fence with Taiga. Plus, he's heard her confess to him that she loves Ryuji even though she wanted the feelings gone. I think that was enough for kitamuru to decide to not pursue if he even had the thought. With Minor and Ami, they both loved Ryuji but I think they both realized that Taiga is even more in love and would be more hurt. In Ami's case, she knew that Ryuji didn't have the feelings for her so she started concentrating more on having him recognize Taiga's feelings. So in general, there wasn't much to do for the other characters since they were tied in with Taiga or other characters that have left. Kitamuru will likely get together with Kanuo once he gets to America.

Honestly, I think before that episode, he was realizing that he was in love with her. Based on the art and his reactions which I usually pay close attention to, he was a bit more hesitant and couldn't answer if he loved her or not. If he was confident that he didn't, he could've easily said no. Sounds like he was debating within himself. At least, from what I recall, he was becoming more aware subconsciously that he may love her before her accidental confession. I think more episodes in that period would've helped convey his thoughts more. I mean, he was also spacing out if I recall correctly and thinking about why Taiga was being secretive and trying so hard for his sake when I guess to him, he was mostly frustrated with Minori indirectly rejecting his confession and such. Infact, at one point especially after Minori rejected him, it felt to me that he was giving up on her and it was only due to Taiga that he was still trying. In terms of the accidental confession itself, seems like he was a bit taken that she liked him. Infact, it feels like it was the same case with Minori. He didn't know Taiga had feelings for him since she was always acting the same more or less around him since she was comfortable talking to him so this was a "she has these feelings, what will I do?" moment. He didn't know if Minori liked him either aside from Taiga telling him so before Minori said she did. What I mean is that he started to love Taiga more and more as the show went on to the point where he was really angry that she wasn't coming over and feeling lonely without her and that accidental confession was confirmation to him that she likes him.

Thing is, Minori had the chance to do so at the cabin. Ryuji left to go to the washroom but instead he sat by himself and Minori found him and started talking to him. Her mind was on solving class problems and less so on whether he likes her or not. I think her mind was predetermined at that point even though she cried for losing him later on. Even Ryuji remarks about her odd behaviour in the cabin. Ya, the confrontation scene was really powerful. I umm didn't cry lol but replayed it several times because it felt like it was the second(or most) important scene in the anime. I think Taiga's crying scene was more emotional than Minori's crying scene but they obviously both loved him. For all we know, it's possible that Taiga told Minori about her feelings a long time ago although she said before she was cornered that she didn't want to tell anyone what she said when she was unconscious because it was embarrassing and such. Well, there was the one scene holding the bag but ya, there wasn't a major scene. Thing is, Taiga completely moved away from Ryuji and stopped coming over to help him with Minori but it wasn't enough. I guess to Minori, it was much better and she wanted Taiga to have Ryuji since she felt her love and need for him is stronger.

Well, at one point, back when Ami first faced her stalker, Ryuji did have some feelings but they were superficial and based on looks than anything else. I think she was to act as voice of reason later but originally, she was supposed to be someone who fought with Taiga in regards to Kitamuru and made her feel worse. I think in her case, it was about seeing her change into a better person and having more friends etc... and just being accepted which she was during the anime. Sad that she didn't have a shot and personally, I would've liked Ryuji to have had more close acquaintances to add more to the story instead of mostly Taiga and Minori but then where is the limit? If he was already in love with both Taiga and Minori and didn't know what to do, things would only spiral if Ami was added into it.

You have no idea how pissed I was when she left. For some reason, I thought she left for several episodes but realized it was in the last one only. I mean, right after they got together, what I've been waiting for the whole time, then she leaves a note and goes back to her family. I was really pissed when it happened. I know and understand the reasoning but if she just told him the reasoning in person then she kissed him and left before coming back later, I would've been a lot more fine with that because at least, he wouldn't be as frustrated. I don't think he was "okay" as much as, I have to respect her wish and she trusts me to do so. I think the idea was that they were a couple at that point so going away didn't change that and he was respecting her choice and probably knew that she'll come back to him after she patched things up and such. Thinking about it some more, it was probably also the way to make sure that they stay together. I mean, it was a timeskip so that things are patched up with her family and so when she comes back, they can be together for life so in a way, they were probably avoiding adding more episodes showing how things got fixed and such and just getting to the conclusion of the timeskip(her coming back and meeting him again with the same feelings).

YES! YES! Again, I know what he was going for and I've seen other animes or mangas do the same ending but still, it disappoints me a lot that the last thing the anime closed off with was them just meeting again and instead of having a final kiss and just walking together with everyone cheering them or something, it was him confessing and her hitting him over it in her usual character. It was a good idea to confess because it showed that he's not hesitant anymore and he knows that he loves her and I think that was needed. Likewise, we see her becoming red and from that and her reaction, we know that she still loves him so it was confirmation that their feelings were just as strong as before she left him and they were more comfortable with it(Ryuji) so we know that things will just continue as they were prior to her leaving since things have improved from all aspects(family, less pain etc...). Still, I can't help but feel very disappointed that we got a similar ending to other animes and we never saw any more funny and interesting interactions between them which was one of the things I loved about the anime. I actually hoped he'll do an episode just after the confession with them walking with friends and doing fun stuff just to show things and such. Basically, everyone accepted it and they are together forever and such.

Well to be fair, at that point, to Taiga, Ryuji meant the world to her since she had no family and for Ryuji, Taiga was someone who he grew to love a lot and was really lonely without her. She just meant a lot to him and he didn't want to lose her. Ya, the let's get married was a bit over the top but from their perspective, Taiga's mother came to take her away and the relationship was at risk of disappearing. They probably weren't thinking that we should just talk to them and rather, were thinking that we need to do something quick and that they won't listen. Going the marriage route while was quick and caught even Taiga offguard at the bridge, was a solution to their problems, albeit was temporary since they would've had to face everyone when they came back anyways. I think they could've added more episodes to develop it more as well but I don't agree that it was that undeveloped. They were literally spending every minute of the day together minus at night and their bond was crazy strong by then. The parents, well, we don't know what Taiga's mom's response to the marriage idea but I think Ryuji's mom was ok with it because she knew Taiga and wanted him to be happy. I think they just sped it up partly due to time(episodes) and partly due to them being young and wanting to show that they made a fast decision(marriage). In a way, they were just trying to give an ending so that we, the viewers know what is going to happen next. I don't have a problem with it as long as they actually showed us them being a couple and then getting married instead of what we got which was a quick meeting then anime ended.

I can see a lot of your points, specially about the urgency of their "marriage" with Taiga's mom being around and all that stuff. Don't get me wrong I don't hate the show, some things just weren't fleshed out well enough for my liking and so the ending didn't make too much sense for me. I think a more even story and one where we see more of their relationship would be better, even if from the get go we know Minori and Ami had no chance. I JUST FELT TEASED! lol jk ISH. A longer show or maybe some ovas would have done a lot for this show, as it is I didn't like the way it ends, the whole thing up until like episode 21-22 was really nice but I wouldn't want to watch it again because my precious Ami got ignored painful to watch again D:. They should have pulled a Nodame Cantabile and split the show in 2 seasons, I felt Nodame was amazingly well paced and I really liked all the characters, nothing felt sudden or rushed or mishandled. I recommend Nodame, from the get go you know the leads will be together but I'm totally fine with that since I feel nodame did a better job with the pace of the story (the superb music didn't hurt it either), is not like I need for everyone to sleep with each other and there's a mess over who's with who in every show. Just dislike predictability coupled with a so so story.

I read someone said that Golden Time is a lot like Tora so maybe you can watch that instead of hoping for anyone to make more content out of Tora lol, it seems the same people are in charge so I would expect more mishandled story and bias . Also I have to say I really loved Ryuji's mom, what a nice lady , I really felt bad that Ryuji was so rude while trying to be "thoughtful" to her mother's needs. I can see what he was going for but her mom was a really hard working lady and a good mom so she should have let her keep doing what she does and not try to be an adult when he obviously has a lot to learn (clue: asking Taiga to marry him before even kissing her ). One thing that ALMOST made me SKIP on the whole show, I was seriously ready to stop watching the show and be like yeah I didn't watch any of that nope I don't need to watch it further lol. Was the pool episode, I was like oh man she's gonna get in the water, one of those fake boobs is gonna float on to the pool and everyone is going to laugh their balls off at poor Taiga D:. I really hate when awkward characters have shit like that happen to them, I've had movies I can't watch because I hate scenes like that, idk what it is but I can't watch that stuff. I decided to push ahead and skipped most of that scene

Last night before bed I watched 1 episode of Kimi Nozo and it was really good, I definitely see why somebody told me if I liked WA I would like KN, though they seem very different I can see where he was going with that. It took a lot of willpower not to watch another episode hahaha but I had such an early morning.

Oh I forgot to mention, you know one thing that really turned me off about their relationship that just didn't sell it for me? remember the episode about the pool how Taiga was embarrassed about it and so Ryuji made her fake boobs? That isn't something I would see a bf do lol, I mean that seemed more like a sibling/father thing to do, so I always had this image of them being sibling like and I thought it was creepy as fuck when they kissed lol. There were a lot of things like that from Ryuji that didn't seem romantic as opposed to just being nice and family like towards Taiga, so I was always hoping he didn't end up hooking up with his "sister" lol.