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On October 30 2013 10:56 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 09:39 Spazer wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 21:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 29 2013 15:33 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 15:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:It was honestly really bad. I write reviews for certain anime that you're welcome to read though.  I was going to since you mentioned it but then I saw you complaining about Sakamichi no Apollon so idk if I want to anymore . How can there be anything wrong with that show with Kanno and Watanabe teaming up again? AMAZING things and rainbows come out of those 2 working together , the music was amazing (Still listen to the OST regularly, how could I not, jazz soundtrack, Cowboy much?), the animation was beautiful, the story was pretty nice for this type of show (no real complaints except I DIDN'T GET TO SEE MORE OF IT) I don't really like any of Watanabe's anime. You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<). Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. 402 master race reporting in. Haruna is best gi...ship Hyuuga probably most interesting, more back story! Speak of model My + Show Spoiler +Arrived today... it's frigging HUGE Can't wait til Kazuno...
Was it supposed to be 1/8th or 1/6th?
Take pics imo, also pics when Kazuno.
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On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 21:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 29 2013 15:33 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 15:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:It was honestly really bad. I write reviews for certain anime that you're welcome to read though. I was going to since you mentioned it but then I saw you complaining about Sakamichi no Apollon so idk if I want to anymore . How can there be anything wrong with that show with Kanno and Watanabe teaming up again? AMAZING things and rainbows come out of those 2 working together , the music was amazing (Still listen to the OST regularly, how could I not, jazz soundtrack, Cowboy much?), the animation was beautiful, the story was pretty nice for this type of show (no real complaints except I DIDN'T GET TO SEE MORE OF IT) I don't really like any of Watanabe's anime. You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<). Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching.
Just because Build Fighters is about Gunpla, doesn't meant it is 110% for kids!! Wow, who would have thought??? All you are doing is talking about an anime you have never even watched. Don't talk about what an anime you have never watched is or isn't, because you don't have a fucking clue. You live in a fantasy world where Gundam isn't a kids show (even though it is, and always has been). You keep calling it pokemon, but how is it like Pokemon? Have you watched any to say? No, you haven't, so kindly be quiet about something you have no idea about. You basically hate things you have never experienced because you are so stuck up on your own self-importance over your own age that you can't rationally judge things based on their merits, so imagine what they are and then hate that.
You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread.
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On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 21:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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I don't really like any of Watanabe's anime. You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<). Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists.
I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol.
Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^
TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol.
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On October 30 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:^ lol, right before I post XD Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:
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You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<).
Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists. I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol. Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^ TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol.
I brought it up, because he was being a hypocrite and calling ZNF "crazy" for not liking certain things. Guess what, people can do the same thing right back to him!
Have you watched Build Fighters? If not, please don't tell me what Gundams are and aren't considering in Build Fighters, or what they are relegated to be.
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On October 30 2013 11:10 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 10:56 ragz_gt wrote:On October 30 2013 09:39 Spazer wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 21:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 29 2013 15:33 TanKLoveR wrote:[quote] I was going to since you mentioned it but then I saw you complaining about Sakamichi no Apollon so idk if I want to anymore . How can there be anything wrong with that show with Kanno and Watanabe teaming up again? AMAZING things and rainbows come out of those 2 working together , the music was amazing (Still listen to the OST regularly, how could I not, jazz soundtrack, Cowboy much?), the animation was beautiful, the story was pretty nice for this type of show (no real complaints except I DIDN'T GET TO SEE MORE OF IT) I don't really like any of Watanabe's anime. You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<). Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. 402 master race reporting in. Haruna is best gi...ship Hyuuga probably most interesting, more back story! Speak of model My + Show Spoiler +Arrived today... it's frigging HUGE Can't wait til Kazuno... Was it supposed to be 1/8th or 1/6th? Take pics imo, also pics when Kazuno.
It's 1/8 but the base and sword takes a ton of real estate, same with Kazuno.
I'm keeping it in box til I can get enough furniture in my place so I can display them... too much risk opening them with constructions going on. Once everything settle down I will pic.
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Also, just saying "gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user" is false even by 0079's standards.
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On October 30 2013 11:24 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:10 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:56 ragz_gt wrote:On October 30 2013 09:39 Spazer wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 21:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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I don't really like any of Watanabe's anime. You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<). Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. 402 master race reporting in. Haruna is best gi...ship Hyuuga probably most interesting, more back story! Speak of model My + Show Spoiler +Arrived today... it's frigging HUGE Can't wait til Kazuno... Was it supposed to be 1/8th or 1/6th? Take pics imo, also pics when Kazuno. I'm keeping it in box til I can get enough furniture in my place so I can display them... too much risk opening them with constructions going on
You aren't gonna be done for a while then, will pester for pics eventually.
On October 30 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:^ lol, right before I post XD Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:
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You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<).
Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists. I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol. Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^ TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol.
That's not really the case like Sent said, but it isn't particularly important far as I am concerned. Sent seem to be pretty concerned at the haste of the guy's judgment, but eh. The point for me is that the Gundam culture is pretty big and covers quite a wide range of things. UC isn't the only thing that makes up "Gundam". There are silly parody types that uses gundams simply as a way of representing characters. Even if we ignore all the AU stuff, the gundam culture has long gone past what it originally started at. It is well within his rights to not like the direction that Sunrise takes with the franchise in the last couple of iterations.
Except gunpla builders isn't even that. It is about the hobbyist culture of building gunpla, which like I said, is pretty big there. What gundam should be about doesn't matter at all. The show is more like, this is what gunpla is, this is what you can do with gunpla, and here are some fights to make it look cool. He is free to dislike the concept of having a show, but calling it stupid and childish because it doesn't fit his idea of what gundam should be about? Please. Just because you don't appreciate a particular hobby doesn't give you the right to trample upon the efforts and feelings people have for it.
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On October 30 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:^ lol, right before I post XD Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:
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You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<).
Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:On October 29 2013 18:48 Sterlymobile wrote:Litter Busters Refrain Episode 4 + Show Spoiler +Interesting episode. This is like the only time there was a scene with only Rin and Riki other than when they are with the cats. Also because someone else said Riki liked someone he suddenly likes Rin. Like what? Then the last scene where Rin and Riki left the locker room and then it gets all bright. Then all the girls leave but Komari. It seemed it should be a significant scene but I can't grasp what they are trying to say. There was also no Kurugaya this episode. Brain has been wrinkled. Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:On October 30 2013 07:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Arpeggio just went full original... guess so much for that I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists. I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol. Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^ TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol.
Preferences and opinions are one thing. Hating stuff you have never even seen before is just stupid and using arguments like "well I am 27 years old" or "a show of the same genre was bad" to explain why you hate something you have never seen is also stupid. At least try it so you can actually explain why you hate it instead of using bs arguments based off nothing but your own assumption.
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On October 30 2013 11:22 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:^ lol, right before I post XD On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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Didn't watch Macross Plus.
Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through.
I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:
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Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:
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I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists. I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol. Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^ TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol. I brought it up, because he was being a hypocrite and calling ZNF "crazy" for not liking certain things. Guess what, people can do the same thing right back to him! Have you watched Build Fighters? If not, please don't tell me what Gundams are and aren't considering in Build Fighters, or what they are relegated to be.
Please stop being so overly aggressive since there's no point for it. First, maybe re-read his post about calling ZNF "crazy". Infact, I bolded the important part for you:
On October 30 2013 09:07 TanKLoveR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 30 2013 01:02 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 21:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 29 2013 15:33 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 29 2013 15:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:It was honestly really bad. I write reviews for certain anime that you're welcome to read though. I was going to since you mentioned it but then I saw you complaining about Sakamichi no Apollon so idk if I want to anymore . How can there be anything wrong with that show with Kanno and Watanabe teaming up again? AMAZING things and rainbows come out of those 2 working together , the music was amazing (Still listen to the OST regularly, how could I not, jazz soundtrack, Cowboy much?), the animation was beautiful, the story was pretty nice for this type of show (no real complaints except I DIDN'T GET TO SEE MORE OF IT) I don't really like any of Watanabe's anime. You're crazy, how can you not like Cowboy Bebop :O or Samurai Champloo AND Macross Plus, that stuff was pure gold and it had some of the most memorable soundtracks I've heard. I remember being surprised he directed Samurai but then I remember the soundtrack and it made perfect sense, that guy has a talent for getting the music just perfect to go with his stories. All the shows he had anything to do with had amazing soundtracks and were very good in their own right, except for maybe Eureka Seven (I didn't see a point to that show at all <.<). Really looking forward to his new show Space Dandy, looks funky ^^ and I'm sure the music will again be superb. Didn't watch Macross Plus. Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through. I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." I never said anything about liking anything because it's cool. I grew up with Cowboy, I remember coming home from school just in time to watch it on tv, it was watching this show that I learned to like Jazz music. I loved the story lines, I loved the characters, it was a really well constructed show and the music just elevated it and made it almost perfect imo. I can gush about it Toradora rant style but I won't, it was just a really good show and years later I still rewatch the show and love it. Samurai Champloo wasn't as good imo, the story wasn't as expansive or well constructed but it was a really good effort. The fighting was fun, the characters were fun without them being brainless or dumb a la bleach/naruto, and again the amazing soundtrack just made the whole thing stand out, without that soundtrack I doubt the show would be as good. It gave the show its atmosphere, it's theme, I wouldn't be surprised if they tailored the show around the music. Macross Pluss was my first macross and my favourite, I watched it not long ago and found myself surprised at how amazing it still looks today for a show that was made in 1994. I can't imagine how well it must have looked at that time. And yet again was accentuated by a wonderful soundtrack and great characters, story was simple but it didn't need to be complicated and the action was just wonderful to watch with those graphics. Nah you're not crazy just joking about that, but I do think they are amazing shows that deserve credit for actually being good and not just something people HAVE to like for "cool" factor or whatever you think people like it for. I think this guy produces some amazing shows, besides I always have a sweet spot for shows with amazing soundtracks like these and beck and nodame cantabile.
Also, maybe re-read mine again. Bolded AND Underlined important part! Nowhere did I compare the shows. I only stated that I watched original and from what I recall, saw whatever one came after it and moved on.
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Looks like I misread your post, sorry about that.
Not sorry about calling him out. That 'damage control' post of his were he was claiming he was only joking came after I had already called him out for being a hypocrite. Should I bold the post times for you? Do you expect me to read his mind or read the future or something?
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On October 30 2013 11:25 Sentenal wrote:
Also, just saying "gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user" is false even by 0079's standards.
I don't even know hat the 0079 standard is lol.
On October 30 2013 11:28 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:^ lol, right before I post XD On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 05:23 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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Didn't watch Macross Plus.
Didn't like Cowboy Bebop. Didn't like Samurai Champloo aside from Nujabes (also just because an anime has a good OST doesn't automatically make it good. I like certain sountracks but hated the anime. Is that a problem?). Or Mitchiko to Hatchin. Gave up on Sakamichi no Apollon halfway through.
I mean I don't understand why everyone has to like those works simply because they're "cool" or whatever other reasons have for liking them and why someone who finds them boring/overrated is "crazy." Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:On October 29 2013 19:06 Nagisama wrote:
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Shit's about to get serious. We're heading towards the last arc, that's why it's Rin-focused, and no Kurugaya. lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:On October 30 2013 07:41 Maxie wrote:
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I started reading the manga, I'm liking it more so far. Will still watch for ship porn though. Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists. I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol. Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^ TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol. Preferences and opinions are one thing. Hating stuff you have never even seen before is just stupid and using arguments like "well I am 27 years old" or "a show of the same genre was bad" to explain why you hate something you have never seen is also stupid. At least try it so you can actually explain why you hate it instead of using bs arguments based off nothing but your own assumption.
Let me rephrase then: he dislikes other animes because he has limited time and based disliking them on a previous correlation that he noticed within the same genre. His opinion, up to him what he watches. My point is, thread was ok and then Sentenal randomly called him out on calling znf crazy. From my perspective, it seems like he started a fight over what was a joke. I would rather we use the thread to discuss anime then arguing over opinions and such.
On October 30 2013 11:33 Sentenal wrote:
Looks like I misread your post, sorry about that.
Not sorry about calling him out. That 'damage control' post of his were he was claiming he was only joking came after I had already called him out for being a hypocrite. Should I bold the post times for you? Do you expect me to read his mind or read the future or something?
np, it's fine. Figured you misread. Dude, honestly, I don't mind seeing some back and forth arguments but in this case, it looked more like he was having a convo and you randomly called him out. Was he joking for real or just said that? I dunno and we won't know either. I just think it'sbest we keep the thread clean unless you want mods to be cleaning it for us.
ps I bolded it because I didn't want you to read through a page to find what I was talking about.
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The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites.
0079 is normal shorthand for Original Gundam, btw. Since "Original Gundam" takes too long to type, "Gundam" has come to mean the entire franchise, etc etc. 0079 because thats the year it takes place, and because other gundams having naming conventions using the year.
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On October 30 2013 11:37 Sentenal wrote:
The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites.
I don't think Ecael would like it if mods started moderating this thread over a silly fight lol.
btw, went back to see his posts, caught his:
"I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be."
it's his opinion. Look at all the Is lol. He never stated it as fact or at least, I didn't see that part in his posts but I could've missed it. Either way, this is a silly fight and you guys won't get anywhere in the end except just pissing each other off.
On October 30 2013 11:37 Sentenal wrote:
The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites.
0079 is normal shorthand for Original Gundam, btw. Since "Original Gundam" takes too long to type, "Gundam" has come to mean the entire franchise, etc etc. 0079 because thats the year it takes place, and because other gundams having naming conventions using the year.
I see. When I watched 0079, they talked about how serious gundam were, as in piloting one, using it etc... was something that only certain people can do. Point? This statement I made: "gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user" isn't false. A single gundam could change the course of a war and only several were built. They were considered powerful etc... so I'm not sure where my statement was wrong. cmon, everytime a gundam appeared, everyone would cry themselves because they were that feared. Power doesn't just have to be physical but psychological because you become weak through that as well.
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On October 30 2013 11:40 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:37 Sentenal wrote:
The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites. I don't think Ecael would like it if mods started moderating this thread over a silly fight lol. btw, went back to see his posts, caught his: "I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be." it's his opinion. Look at all the Is lol. He never stated it as fact or at least, I didn't see that part in his posts but I could've missed it. Either way, this is a silly fight lol.
He hasn't watched it. He can't know what it denigrates Gundam to at all, or what Gundam is in thes how. If he actually watched it and formed that conclusion, thats his opinion, and we wouldn't be talking about it. In this case, hes forming an opinion on what the show is in his imagination. Its pure insanity.
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On October 30 2013 11:45 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:40 BigFan wrote:On October 30 2013 11:37 Sentenal wrote:
The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites. I don't think Ecael would like it if mods started moderating this thread over a silly fight lol. btw, went back to see his posts, caught his: "I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be." it's his opinion. Look at all the Is lol. He never stated it as fact or at least, I didn't see that part in his posts but I could've missed it. Either way, this is a silly fight lol. He hasn't watched it. He can't know what it denigrates Gundam to at all, or what Gundam is in thes how. If he actually watched it and formed that conclusion, thats his opinion, and we wouldn't be talking about it. In this case, hes forming an opinion on what the show is in his imagination. Its pure insanity.
Going off memory here so I could be wrong but I think he watched an episode or so, found out he didn't like it and stopped watching. From what I recall though, I think in the original post, he was talking about other mech shows and not gundam so I'm not even sure how gundam came into it.
Reminds me of the pokemon arguments. Personally, I will always see the original pokemon or with 2nd generation as the best one just because I don't find them as weird as the newer stuff. I tried playing a later pokemon game(Ruby or w/e it was), didn't like just how much it changed and stuck to that pov. Point? opinions in the end.
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Hm people sure type fast, while I was editing my post with a response 10 posts flew by.
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On October 30 2013 11:48 Ecael wrote:
Hm people sure type fast, while I was editing my post with a response 10 posts flew by.
or maybe you type slow? Glass half full or half empty, take your pick
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On October 30 2013 11:33 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:28 KazeHydra wrote:On October 30 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:^ lol, right before I post XD On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 06:24 Sentenal wrote:
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Keep in mind you are talking to the guy who decided to not watch MJP because he didn't like Valvrave, and dismissed an anime he has never even watched as "kiddie" because it offends his mature 27-year-old sensibilities. You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:On October 29 2013 23:14 Ecael wrote:
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lol it'll click next episode for him maybe, nothing to work with for ep4. I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man. There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:On October 30 2013 07:44 Nagisama wrote:
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Pretty much this. Iona so moe in the manga :D tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists. I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol. Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^ TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol. Preferences and opinions are one thing. Hating stuff you have never even seen before is just stupid and using arguments like "well I am 27 years old" or "a show of the same genre was bad" to explain why you hate something you have never seen is also stupid. At least try it so you can actually explain why you hate it instead of using bs arguments based off nothing but your own assumption. Let me rephrase then: he dislikes other animes because he has limited time and based disliking them on a previous correlation that he noticed within the same genre. His opinion, up to him what he watches. My point is, thread was ok and then Sentenal randomly called him out on calling znf crazy. From my perspective, it seems like he started a fight over what was a joke. I would rather we use the thread to discuss anime then arguing over opinions and such.
And I'm saying forming such an opinion (negative OR positive) because of some correlation that doesn't go further than "things of the same genre tend to be similar" is stupid. It's not about choosing what to watch due to time. It's about forming opinions off nothing other than assumptions. It'd be like if someone started talking shit about Toradora, having never seen it, and using "correlations" from other romances to prove he is right and he somehow has the right to that opinion because he saw a completely unrelated show or is making baseless assumptions off only the synopsis. He can watch whatever he wants fine, but again, forming opinions on stuff you haven't even tried is dumb.
I don't try stuff if I don't have time and it ends there. Not I don't try stuff because I lack time so I'm going to form opinions on things and hate on it to explain why I won't try it.
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On October 30 2013 11:48 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:45 Sentenal wrote:On October 30 2013 11:40 BigFan wrote:On October 30 2013 11:37 Sentenal wrote:
The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites. I don't think Ecael would like it if mods started moderating this thread over a silly fight lol. btw, went back to see his posts, caught his: "I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be." it's his opinion. Look at all the Is lol. He never stated it as fact or at least, I didn't see that part in his posts but I could've missed it. Either way, this is a silly fight lol. He hasn't watched it. He can't know what it denigrates Gundam to at all, or what Gundam is in thes how. If he actually watched it and formed that conclusion, thats his opinion, and we wouldn't be talking about it. In this case, hes forming an opinion on what the show is in his imagination. Its pure insanity. Going off memory here so I could be wrong but I think he watched an episode or so, found out he didn't like it and stopped watching. From what I recall though, I think in the original post, he was talking about other mech shows and not gundam so I'm not even sure how gundam came into it.
He never said he watched it.
On October 30 2013 11:40 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:37 Sentenal wrote:
The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites. I don't think Ecael would like it if mods started moderating this thread over a silly fight lol. btw, went back to see his posts, caught his: "I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be." it's his opinion. Look at all the Is lol. He never stated it as fact or at least, I didn't see that part in his posts but I could've missed it. Either way, this is a silly fight and you guys won't get anywhere in the end except just pissing each other off. Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:37 Sentenal wrote:
The thread will be fine as long as people don't act like hypocrites.
0079 is normal shorthand for Original Gundam, btw. Since "Original Gundam" takes too long to type, "Gundam" has come to mean the entire franchise, etc etc. 0079 because thats the year it takes place, and because other gundams having naming conventions using the year. I see. When I watched 0079, they talked about how serious gundam were, as in piloting one, using it etc... was something that only certain people can do. Point? This statement I made: "gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user" isn't false. A single gundam could change the course of a war and only several were built. They were considered powerful etc... so I'm not sure where my statement was wrong. cmon, everytime a gundam appeared, everyone would cry themselves because they were that feared. Power doesn't just have to be physical but psychological because you become weak through that as well.
As far as the original, the Gundam was a superior mobile suit compared to things like the Zaku and Gouf, however later on in the series it was outclassed. I'm fairly certain even Gelgoogs had superior specs to the original gundam, not to mention the many mobile amors like the Big Zam. The original Gundam had slightly better amor than things like the Zaku, and had a beam rifle, the first of its kind. These advantages went away as the series progressed. The war wasn't even won by the Gundam. It was won due to the Zabi family falling apart, and the Federation's production of GMs. The Gundam was made fearsome, not really by being a gundam, but because of its pilot. However, later Gundams would actually do the opposite of this, where Gundams go from "a little better than the competition" to weapons of mass destruction capable of ending civilization itself.
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On October 30 2013 11:54 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:33 BigFan wrote:On October 30 2013 11:28 KazeHydra wrote:On October 30 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:^ lol, right before I post XD On October 30 2013 10:38 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 10:34 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 10:06 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 09:11 TanKLoveR wrote:On October 30 2013 08:58 Ecael wrote:On October 30 2013 08:53 TanKLoveR wrote:
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You should stop posting if you're going to spout your stupidity all over this thread, I said I didn't like it because it denigrates what I consider to be a GOOD gundam, what gundam is supposed to be. Since when it's gundam fucking pokemon? Stupidest thing they've done with the franchise after Age. If you like your plastic pokemon crap good for you, that doesn't mean I have to like it. I grew up with a different gundam, not this. If you grew up with a gundam anime that didn't have a strong intention of selling gunpla, you came from a different past than mine. On October 30 2013 08:52 Sterlymobile wrote:
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I am preparing myself. Whenever Key inputs some supernatural stuff, things are going to get serious. I remember watching Air and Kanon, if someone transforms into an animal I am going to freak out man.
There are 9 episodes left into the season which is quite enough for them to explain things (I hope) and go though Rin's arc. The third season was already announced, hopefully they don't want until then to explain. It took me a while to figure out Clannad After Story's ending. What third season, you mean Ex? That's just going to be bd bonus stuff afaik. On October 30 2013 08:58 Kipsate wrote:
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tsundere heavy cruiser is the best tho She is pretty yawn, Iona and 402 much more interesting. Just because a show is made to sell figurines and shit doesn't mean it has to be 110% for kids. A lot of the shows I grew up with were made with this intention, Transformers, Evangelion, Saint Seiya (I even owned some from the first show when I was a kid), Gundam, Macross, but devolve into literally being toys for kids IN the show as well? I'm sorry but I can't just get over how stupid that sounds, I always hated the yugioh's of the world and digimon whatever crap, their stories were just so unimportant they weren't worth watching. If you can't get the difference between gunpla and gundams I am not sure I can help you. Did you come from 00 and was saved by a gundam as a kid or something? Gundam isn't some sacred concept, it has been used as a medium to cover other stories. Parodies have been made based on it. There were even shit like SD romance of the three kingdoms with gundam. Even if you have problems with all of those, it doesn't change how the show is about gunpla, something with its own culture that might as well as be completely separated from gundams. If you have a problem with plot, that's fine. That thing wasn't about to give you that. But what you are taking an issue with is for gunpla to be gunpla rather than gundam, which is completely silly. That's great, I hope you enjoy "gunpla" I don't care for it. Gundam is not supposed to be a toy, so I don't find it fun to watch 7 year olds "fight" with their "gunpla" or whatever. REGARDLESS OF THEM SELLING FIGURINES. It's like I'm arguing with half of the internet again because I didn't like their precious attack on titan, shockingly enough people have different tastes. Done. Except you just admitted yourself that they sell toys for it? Is your brain fine? It has nothing to do with tastes, it has everything to do with you apparently unable to comprehend the difference between plastic models and fictional objects. You can hate the show for all I like, but please learn to make the distinction between the two things. The kids aren't fighting with gundams, but plastic models of gundams. It might be news to you, but those have a wide following of a pretty diverse age group in Japan. However childish you find that, it has nothing to do with gundams. Don't bring up bullshit like how Gundams are supposed to be something more, because that has nothing to do with the matter to begin with. It is a show about the hobbyists for the hobbyists. I think his point was that he hates how the newer gundam shows have moved in a such direction where previously, gundams were considered a weapon of immense power in the hands of a capable user but in the new shows, they were relegated to be less than that. That's what I got from it at least. I've only ever watched the original gundam show and I liked how serious it was. I can't say I've watched newer ones to compare. As for selling gundam figures, ya, pretty popular. I know friends that have them and such. Looks like fun but I don't think building one just to look at it is for me lol. Either way, why is this convo being brought up again? Sentenal, why can't you just let that convo lay dormant? He has his preferences just like we all do. His reasoning is his own as well. Let's all get along together guys ^^ TankLoveR, haven't forgotten your rants lol. Preferences and opinions are one thing. Hating stuff you have never even seen before is just stupid and using arguments like "well I am 27 years old" or "a show of the same genre was bad" to explain why you hate something you have never seen is also stupid. At least try it so you can actually explain why you hate it instead of using bs arguments based off nothing but your own assumption. Let me rephrase then: he dislikes other animes because he has limited time and based disliking them on a previous correlation that he noticed within the same genre. His opinion, up to him what he watches. My point is, thread was ok and then Sentenal randomly called him out on calling znf crazy. From my perspective, it seems like he started a fight over what was a joke. I would rather we use the thread to discuss anime then arguing over opinions and such. And I'm saying forming such an opinion (negative OR positive) because of some correlation that doesn't go further than "things of the same genre tend to be similar" is stupid. It's not about choosing what to watch due to time. It's about forming opinions off nothing other than assumptions. It'd be like if someone started talking shit about Toradora, having never seen it, and using "correlations" from other romances to prove he is right and he somehow has the right to that opinion because he saw a completely unrelated show or is making baseless assumptions off only the synopsis. He can watch whatever he wants fine, but again, forming opinions on stuff you haven't even tried is dumb. I don't try stuff if I don't have time and it ends there. Not I don't try stuff because I lack time so I'm going to form opinions on things and hate on it to explain why I won't try it.
Be fair Kaze, I'd be far more accurate guessing at Toradora plot using other shit that I have seen before than guessing at gunpla builders using mecha knowledge.
On October 30 2013 11:51 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 11:48 Ecael wrote:
Hm people sure type fast, while I was editing my post with a response 10 posts flew by. or maybe you type slow? Glass half full or half empty, take your pick /joke
Nope no way I type slow noooope >>
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