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On May 06 2013 14:51 XenOmega wrote: I've watched the Evangelion movie (can not redo)
Visually stunning, pace can be unequal But for the story, for someone that has no background with Evangelion (never watched or read anything), the story made close to 0 sense
Wow thx for sharing that. But I cant help imagine that this would be true for anything.....
Anyways eva story telling is pretty awful but thats not really new to the franchise. But I think its fair to say that you should watch some of what your talking about in a coherent order before making a statement on it?
On May 06 2013 16:40 Blargh wrote: Yeah, and... + Show Spoiler +
The whole Rei plot was pretty much revealed to Shinji (and viewers) in about 5 minutes by Kozo (a minor character so far...) which really turned me off.
Oh well. It's no masterpiece, but at least the animation is amazing!
Did you expect a masterpiece from an evangelion movie?
I haven't seen anything from the universe of Gundam Unicorn (the other series), but I am still able to enjoy Unicorn. Of course, there's still some stuff I'm missing
I'm still pondering over the movie I watched yesterday (Evangelion) and trying to figure out what it was about...
Why would you jump into the 3rd movie of a series without having watched anything else? While Gundam Unicorn is part of an already established universe/timeline, it isn't a DIRECT sequel to anything. While on the other hand, Evangelion 3 has that '3' there for a reason. You should use your brain some when deciding to watch things.
Don't be a shithead.
I watched Iron Man 2 in theaters without seeing the first one. I don't think I missed anything for not seeing the first one except for some details about Tony Stark and his relationship with whats-her-face.
You did miss stuff, but it isn't like any of that is as required for Iron Man. The same can't be said for Evangelion. Don't be a shithead.
Overall Sent, and TL anime lovers, is Evangelion as a whole worth more time? Like I said earlier, visually, I was very pleased (I've asked once for something visually good ^^), but story wise, I am confused.
Personally I'm not a fan of Evangelion, and liked the Rebuild movies slightly more than the TV series/EoE. I would say that the TV Series/EoE is worth a watch, if only due to how important an anime it is.
On May 06 2013 14:51 XenOmega wrote: I've watched the Evangelion movie (can not redo)
Visually stunning, pace can be unequal But for the story, for someone that has no background with Evangelion (never watched or read anything), the story made close to 0 sense
Wow thx for sharing that. But I cant help imagine that this would be true for anything.....
Anyways eva story telling is pretty awful but thats not really new to the franchise. But I think its fair to say that you should watch some of what your talking about in a coherent order before making a statement on it?
On May 06 2013 16:40 Blargh wrote: Yeah, and... + Show Spoiler +
The whole Rei plot was pretty much revealed to Shinji (and viewers) in about 5 minutes by Kozo (a minor character so far...) which really turned me off.
Oh well. It's no masterpiece, but at least the animation is amazing!
Did you expect a masterpiece from an evangelion movie?
I haven't seen anything from the universe of Gundam Unicorn (the other series), but I am still able to enjoy Unicorn. Of course, there's still some stuff I'm missing
I'm still pondering over the movie I watched yesterday (Evangelion) and trying to figure out what it was about...
Why would you jump into the 3rd movie of a series without having watched anything else? While Gundam Unicorn is part of an already established universe/timeline, it isn't a DIRECT sequel to anything. While on the other hand, Evangelion 3 has that '3' there for a reason. You should use your brain some when deciding to watch things.
Don't be a shithead.
I watched Iron Man 2 in theaters without seeing the first one. I don't think I missed anything for not seeing the first one except for some details about Tony Stark and his relationship with whats-her-face.
You did miss stuff, but it isn't like any of that is as required for Iron Man. The same can't be said for Evangelion. Don't be a shithead.
Overall Sent, and TL anime lovers, is Evangelion as a whole worth more time? Like I said earlier, visually, I was very pleased (I've asked once for something visually good ^^), but story wise, I am confused.
Should've just started the movies at 1.0 instead of 3.0 like a regular person so that you would be less confused story wise.
On May 07 2013 23:02 ragz_gt wrote: Wait... did he actually think 3.0 was the first movie? Something like EVA> EE > Movie 3.0? That can't be the case... right? RIGHT?
Never claimed I watched the movie "can not redo" because I thought it was the first. I picked it because it was the most recent and I figured it would be a way to enter the universe (check last posts where I say that I've always seen the anime around in Chinatown, so I figured it was somewhat popular)
A normal person might have done something similar as me to be honest ; Go to cinema, watch Irom Man 3, understand the movie, and then decide to watch 1 and 2 because he liked #3. Normally, movies can (and are not always) be standalone.
On May 07 2013 23:02 ragz_gt wrote: Wait... did he actually think 3.0 was the first movie? Something like EVA> EE > Movie 3.0? That can't be the case... right? RIGHT?
Never claimed I watched the movie "can not redo" because I thought it was the first. I picked it because it was the most recent and I figured it would be a way to enter the universe (check last posts where I say that I've always seen the anime around in Chinatown, so I figured it was somewhat popular)
A normal person might have done something similar as me to be honest ; Go to cinema, watch Irom Man 3, understand the movie, and then decide to watch 1 and 2 because he liked #3. Normally, movies can (and are not always) be standalone.
Assuming that a movie in a series is stand alone is a pretty dumb thing to do.
It's because they DON'T understand the movie that they decide to watch 1 and 2 in order to understand it. They just like what they saw in the 3rd movie so they want more to better understand.
On May 07 2013 23:02 ragz_gt wrote: Wait... did he actually think 3.0 was the first movie? Something like EVA> EE > Movie 3.0? That can't be the case... right? RIGHT?
Never claimed I watched the movie "can not redo" because I thought it was the first. I picked it because it was the most recent and I figured it would be a way to enter the universe (check last posts where I say that I've always seen the anime around in Chinatown, so I figured it was somewhat popular)
A normal person might have done something similar as me to be honest ; Go to cinema, watch Irom Man 3, understand the movie, and then decide to watch 1 and 2 because he liked #3. Normally, movies can (and are not always) be standalone.
On May 07 2013 17:09 Cel.erity wrote: Don't know about "deep", but the thing I love most about Evangelion is how much stuff ends up unexplained/up to your own interpretation. Even in interviews, when Anno is asked for clarification on certain insignificant events in the story, he's like "lolnope". It's a series that will stay on your mind forever.
hes like lolnope cause he admittingly put in random bullshit cause it seemed cool
Yeah, but honestly the intent doesn't matter. The effect does. A lot of very talented people work really hard to produce terrible anime, but you don't sing their praises. Conversely, if Evangelion became a masterpiece by accident, that shouldn't make any difference either.
I'm in the camp who saw the show when it debuted, thought it was meh, and put it away. When I rewatched it years later, I realized how much I had missed. You might say it isn't deep, but I feel like all of Eva's depth is organic and comes from the characters' natural behavior or little things thrown in randomly, as you mentioned. It forces you to pay attention and rewards you for doing so. Other series often attempt to recreate this atmosphere, but can't, because when it's overly manufactured it comes off like teenage angst.
Author's intent pretty important mang.
Also, I told myself I'd watch the TV series before I finished my 300th entry on MAL, and since I just finished #294, I think I'm gonna get started soon.
Yeah, watch it. You'll probably enjoy it since you always have that sad face emoticon. I was depressed as fuck when I watched it (first anime I watched, cause of the thread on TL and cause I was depressed) and it was great, kind of just depressed me more though lol. I got my shit sorted eventually though.
On May 07 2013 17:09 Cel.erity wrote: Don't know about "deep", but the thing I love most about Evangelion is how much stuff ends up unexplained/up to your own interpretation. Even in interviews, when Anno is asked for clarification on certain insignificant events in the story, he's like "lolnope". It's a series that will stay on your mind forever.
hes like lolnope cause he admittingly put in random bullshit cause it seemed cool
Yeah, but honestly the intent doesn't matter. The effect does. A lot of very talented people work really hard to produce terrible anime, but you don't sing their praises. Conversely, if Evangelion became a masterpiece by accident, that shouldn't make any difference either.
I'm in the camp who saw the show when it debuted, thought it was meh, and put it away. When I rewatched it years later, I realized how much I had missed. You might say it isn't deep, but I feel like all of Eva's depth is organic and comes from the characters' natural behavior or little things thrown in randomly, as you mentioned. It forces you to pay attention and rewards you for doing so. Other series often attempt to recreate this atmosphere, but can't, because when it's overly manufactured it comes off like teenage angst.
Author's intent pretty important mang.
Also, I told myself I'd watch the TV series before I finished my 300th entry on MAL, and since I just finished #294, I think I'm gonna get started soon.
Yeah, watch it. You'll probably enjoy it since you always have that sad face emoticon. I was depressed as fuck when I watched it (first anime I watched, cause of the thread on TL and cause I was depressed) and it was great, kind of just depressed me more though lol. I got my shit sorted eventually though.
What....oh. I haven't turned off this emoticon in forever.
On May 07 2013 17:09 Cel.erity wrote: Don't know about "deep", but the thing I love most about Evangelion is how much stuff ends up unexplained/up to your own interpretation. Even in interviews, when Anno is asked for clarification on certain insignificant events in the story, he's like "lolnope". It's a series that will stay on your mind forever.
hes like lolnope cause he admittingly put in random bullshit cause it seemed cool
Yeah, but honestly the intent doesn't matter. The effect does. A lot of very talented people work really hard to produce terrible anime, but you don't sing their praises. Conversely, if Evangelion became a masterpiece by accident, that shouldn't make any difference either.
I'm in the camp who saw the show when it debuted, thought it was meh, and put it away. When I rewatched it years later, I realized how much I had missed. You might say it isn't deep, but I feel like all of Eva's depth is organic and comes from the characters' natural behavior or little things thrown in randomly, as you mentioned. It forces you to pay attention and rewards you for doing so. Other series often attempt to recreate this atmosphere, but can't, because when it's overly manufactured it comes off like teenage angst.
Author's intent pretty important mang.
Also, I told myself I'd watch the TV series before I finished my 300th entry on MAL, and since I just finished #294, I think I'm gonna get started soon.
Yeah, watch it. You'll probably enjoy it since you always have that sad face emoticon. I was depressed as fuck when I watched it (first anime I watched, cause of the thread on TL and cause I was depressed) and it was great, kind of just depressed me more though lol. I got my shit sorted eventually though.
What....oh. I haven't turned off this emoticon in forever.
At least you don't go :p whenever you see GRIMDARK... SUFFERING... like some people here do >.<
I know a few people have. A good friend of mine wrote this about Rahxephon when comparing it to Eva: "Story and characterization superior to Evangelion's, but forever crippled by the lack of a concrete cosmology that allowed its predecessor to affirm itself so firmly in the public mindset. Haruka is a complete deadweight."
I think EVA is more influential than Rah (kinda obvious as the original), so I rated it higher. On the other hand, Rah would be a much better show if they didn't do the weirdarse EVA ending.
On May 07 2013 17:09 Cel.erity wrote: Don't know about "deep", but the thing I love most about Evangelion is how much stuff ends up unexplained/up to your own interpretation. Even in interviews, when Anno is asked for clarification on certain insignificant events in the story, he's like "lolnope". It's a series that will stay on your mind forever.
hes like lolnope cause he admittingly put in random bullshit cause it seemed cool
Yeah, but honestly the intent doesn't matter. The effect does. A lot of very talented people work really hard to produce terrible anime, but you don't sing their praises. Conversely, if Evangelion became a masterpiece by accident, that shouldn't make any difference either.
I'm in the camp who saw the show when it debuted, thought it was meh, and put it away. When I rewatched it years later, I realized how much I had missed. You might say it isn't deep, but I feel like all of Eva's depth is organic and comes from the characters' natural behavior or little things thrown in randomly, as you mentioned. It forces you to pay attention and rewards you for doing so. Other series often attempt to recreate this atmosphere, but can't, because when it's overly manufactured it comes off like teenage angst.
Author's intent pretty important mang.
Also, I told myself I'd watch the TV series before I finished my 300th entry on MAL, and since I just finished #294, I think I'm gonna get started soon.
Yeah, watch it. You'll probably enjoy it since you always have that sad face emoticon. I was depressed as fuck when I watched it (first anime I watched, cause of the thread on TL and cause I was depressed) and it was great, kind of just depressed me more though lol. I got my shit sorted eventually though.
What....oh. I haven't turned off this emoticon in forever.
At least you don't go :p whenever you see GRIMDARK... SUFFERING... like some people here do >.<
On May 07 2013 17:09 Cel.erity wrote: Don't know about "deep", but the thing I love most about Evangelion is how much stuff ends up unexplained/up to your own interpretation. Even in interviews, when Anno is asked for clarification on certain insignificant events in the story, he's like "lolnope". It's a series that will stay on your mind forever.
hes like lolnope cause he admittingly put in random bullshit cause it seemed cool
Yeah, but honestly the intent doesn't matter. The effect does. A lot of very talented people work really hard to produce terrible anime, but you don't sing their praises. Conversely, if Evangelion became a masterpiece by accident, that shouldn't make any difference either.
I'm in the camp who saw the show when it debuted, thought it was meh, and put it away. When I rewatched it years later, I realized how much I had missed. You might say it isn't deep, but I feel like all of Eva's depth is organic and comes from the characters' natural behavior or little things thrown in randomly, as you mentioned. It forces you to pay attention and rewards you for doing so. Other series often attempt to recreate this atmosphere, but can't, because when it's overly manufactured it comes off like teenage angst.
Author's intent pretty important mang.
Also, I told myself I'd watch the TV series before I finished my 300th entry on MAL, and since I just finished #294, I think I'm gonna get started soon.
Yeah, watch it. You'll probably enjoy it since you always have that sad face emoticon. I was depressed as fuck when I watched it (first anime I watched, cause of the thread on TL and cause I was depressed) and it was great, kind of just depressed me more though lol. I got my shit sorted eventually though.
What....oh. I haven't turned off this emoticon in forever.
Oh lol. Anyways whenever I read your posts they always seem kind of joking or happy because of that weird smiley face in your sig, cause I always see it right after I finish reading lol.
On May 07 2013 17:09 Cel.erity wrote: Don't know about "deep", but the thing I love most about Evangelion is how much stuff ends up unexplained/up to your own interpretation. Even in interviews, when Anno is asked for clarification on certain insignificant events in the story, he's like "lolnope". It's a series that will stay on your mind forever.
hes like lolnope cause he admittingly put in random bullshit cause it seemed cool
Yeah, but honestly the intent doesn't matter. The effect does. A lot of very talented people work really hard to produce terrible anime, but you don't sing their praises. Conversely, if Evangelion became a masterpiece by accident, that shouldn't make any difference either.
I'm in the camp who saw the show when it debuted, thought it was meh, and put it away. When I rewatched it years later, I realized how much I had missed. You might say it isn't deep, but I feel like all of Eva's depth is organic and comes from the characters' natural behavior or little things thrown in randomly, as you mentioned. It forces you to pay attention and rewards you for doing so. Other series often attempt to recreate this atmosphere, but can't, because when it's overly manufactured it comes off like teenage angst.
Author's intent pretty important mang.
Also, I told myself I'd watch the TV series before I finished my 300th entry on MAL, and since I just finished #294, I think I'm gonna get started soon.
Yeah, watch it. You'll probably enjoy it since you always have that sad face emoticon. I was depressed as fuck when I watched it (first anime I watched, cause of the thread on TL and cause I was depressed) and it was great, kind of just depressed me more though lol. I got my shit sorted eventually though.
What....oh. I haven't turned off this emoticon in forever.
Oh lol. Anyways whenever I read your posts they always seem kind of joking or happy because of that weird smiley face in your sig, cause I always see it right after I finish reading lol.
On May 07 2013 17:09 Cel.erity wrote: Don't know about "deep", but the thing I love most about Evangelion is how much stuff ends up unexplained/up to your own interpretation. Even in interviews, when Anno is asked for clarification on certain insignificant events in the story, he's like "lolnope". It's a series that will stay on your mind forever.
hes like lolnope cause he admittingly put in random bullshit cause it seemed cool
Yeah, but honestly the intent doesn't matter. The effect does. A lot of very talented people work really hard to produce terrible anime, but you don't sing their praises. Conversely, if Evangelion became a masterpiece by accident, that shouldn't make any difference either.
I'm in the camp who saw the show when it debuted, thought it was meh, and put it away. When I rewatched it years later, I realized how much I had missed. You might say it isn't deep, but I feel like all of Eva's depth is organic and comes from the characters' natural behavior or little things thrown in randomly, as you mentioned. It forces you to pay attention and rewards you for doing so. Other series often attempt to recreate this atmosphere, but can't, because when it's overly manufactured it comes off like teenage angst.
Author's intent pretty important mang.
Also, I told myself I'd watch the TV series before I finished my 300th entry on MAL, and since I just finished #294, I think I'm gonna get started soon.
Yeah, watch it. You'll probably enjoy it since you always have that sad face emoticon. I was depressed as fuck when I watched it (first anime I watched, cause of the thread on TL and cause I was depressed) and it was great, kind of just depressed me more though lol. I got my shit sorted eventually though.
What....oh. I haven't turned off this emoticon in forever.
At least you don't go :p whenever you see GRIMDARK... SUFFERING... like some people here do >.<
Which anime do you consider to be grimdark?
Can't think of a lot of them to be honest, but frankly I haven't watched that many anime to begin with. Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade maybe, Shigofumi to an extent, Texhnolyze, Ergo Proxy...I want to say Lain but I don't think that's what I'd consider "grimdark."
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