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maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
February 14 2013 19:10 GMT
#53101
Chihayafuru is the AOTS.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 19:12:52
February 14 2013 19:12 GMT
#53102
Chihayafuru so good =D

Anyways, OST for Tonari is finally out. OMGITSGREAT.
Skol
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 14 2013 19:15 GMT
#53103
On February 15 2013 03:58 Ikidomari wrote:
psycho pass
+ Show Spoiler +
Aww man I love Makishima, I knew he was going to be chaotic good from the start, or is he lawful evil? I dunno. Pretty sad that + Show Spoiler +
shusei kagari died


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah it was pretty obvious from the start that the Sibyl System is baaad and that Makishima could be called "good" in some sense in this scenario since he's against it. As predictable as it is, I kinda like it. Now I can cheer on Makishima.

maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
February 14 2013 19:17 GMT
#53104
On February 15 2013 03:58 Ikidomari wrote:
psycho pass
+ Show Spoiler +
Aww man I love Makishima, I knew he was going to be chaotic good from the start, or is he lawful evil? I dunno. Pretty sad that + Show Spoiler +
shusei kagari died

He is neither.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 19:28:16
February 14 2013 19:23 GMT
#53105
Psycho Pass
+ Show Spoiler +
Maybe I'm missing something, but if the Sybil system is a bunch of brains why can't it judge Makishima's crime coefficient? If it couldn't judge him in his daily routine ok, but Makishima killed someone right in front of a dominator. Not only that the system includes someone that also can't be judged that used to work with Makishima.

Before the reveal I thought the system worked by measuring brain activity or something and Mikishima was a psychopath or had an abnormal brain that does not emit whatever is measured by the Sybil system when the person is doing something they know is immoral. The reality though is it's a system of brains that works in conjunction with stress meters and other scanners?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 20:38:10
February 14 2013 20:36 GMT
#53106
Psycho-pass
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't think the Sybil system judges someone on his actions at all (like a normal judiciary system does). It just judges you as an individual. When someone is so complex and ambiguous that they (the brains) can't compute his Crime Coefficient, the best solution is to integrate that individual to the network. The system then becomes more potent.
I like to think of it as a logical system to which you add more and more axioms and rules. This extra set of axioms and rules (let's call it S) you couldn't deduce with your first system L1, you integrate them to form a second, L2. Then L2 can deduce more things, in particular S (obviously, because L2 contains S). In this story, L1 would have been the current Sybil system and L2 would have been roughly Sybil system + Makishima, but that plan kinda failed, didn't it? So Makishima is still unaccounted for in the current Sybil system, an existence that shouldn't exist, something unfathomable, if you will.

This series is becoming so good, haha. Makishima proves once more to be t3h badass.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
February 14 2013 21:22 GMT
#53107
+ Show Spoiler [Rewrite final thoughts] +
Common route was really well done. A ton of important information is just nonchalantly paraded in front of you. Supernatural events happen all the time, and Kotarou just plays it for comedic effect. It's hilariously misleading. The sheer relevance of the common route makes the whole presentation really impressive to me. Oh, and the jokes were usually pretty good too~

What was the point of Gil and Pani? They're barely plot relevant, but they still get sprites when Inoue doesn't. Odd choice.

Mappie is a pain in the ass, and whoever came up with that shit is a sadist.

Kotori route serves as a decent introduction to the situation since she's basically a third party to the whole thing. The problem is, it drags itself out too long. Once they left the barrier, the outcome seemed pretty clear. The rest was just an exercise in reaching the end.

Chihaya Sakuya route is great because Chihaya Sakuya is an absolute boss. A relevant quote:
Tonokawa: So I figured it'd be nice if [Sakuya] failed to achieve his biggest goal, and ended up entrusting Kotarou to achieve it in his place. But back when we released the trial everyone seemed to hate him.

Ryuukishi: There's no avoiding that at the beginning of the story......(laughs)

Tonokawa: I was trying to write him as an unlikeable guy, but I overdid it (laughs). But as soon as he does something a little nice suddenly everyone seems to like him......it's not fair.

There's honestly not much to this route besides Sakuya. I guess making the dial spin out of control in the bad end was pretty amusing. ~_~

Shizuru route, I feel, is the weakest of all the routes. Getting a closer look at Guardian was quite nice. The latter part of the route was really quite unsatisfying though. We also got an appearance by Chihaya and Sakuya, but they really didn't do anything... It's kinda weird that Shizuru is the only heroine that gets completely shafted in her route (Actually, that reminds me of a certain crimson red vermillion~). This route can also be summed up in one word: saury.

Lucia route. I really enjoyed the horror story type stuff that occurred at the start of the route. The ending I wasn’t so keen on, but overall, I guess it wasn't half bad. I still take issue with Shizuru losing that fight. D: Extra shoutout for one of the better uses of rewrite in this route. Tohno Shiki would be proud.

Also, SHE KILLED YOSHINO. What an asshole.

Akane route was mediocre. I didn't really appreciate the whole "Suzaki is actually a good guy!" twist, even if it makes sense considering Akane's mindset. I did like the ending with them venturing out into the unknown though. The fact that Yoshino actually shows up in this route (and is of moderate importance!) was pretty refreshing.

Moon route was great. It was very reminiscent of Tsuki no Sango, which I also liked. I had mixed feelings about the familiar attacks, but whatever. More Sakuya is also never a bad thing. The title screen after this route was pretty fantastic too.

Terra route was pretty good. It did a great job of addressing all the lingering questions. The whole non-choice mechanic was pretty novel, and it made sense. The development of the Guardian old guard was really good stuff. Esaka, Nishikujou, and Imamiya all benefited greatly from that backstory. What the heck happened to the Earth Dragon fight in this route? We finally learn that it's sentient, it says two lines, and then it dies. Offscreen. The ending of Terra had its ups and downs. Esaka's death was legitimately saddening (the monochrome cg and pose also reminded me of a certain LoGH scene). Kagari's death was just... weird. It felt like a letdown, considering how the route had been built up to that point. The final sequence with the occult club summoning familiar Kotarou was handled fine though. I am more than ok with that sort of bittersweet end.

The sheer hypocrisy of Terra was pretty funny, in retrospect. Kotarou spends the whole first half of the route telling Kagari that he can't just run into Gaia/Guardian headquarters and slaughter everyone. And then, that's exactly what he does. ~_~ The fact that they sought out and assassinated Suzaki is also funny after what we learned in Akane route.

The unintended (or maybe it is? ) creepiness of Kotarou being in his thirties in common route is hilarious. Lusts after children 10+ years younger than him. Licking plates. Groping breasts. Truly an enemy of mankind.

Imamiya's first appearance in common route is pretty cool after reading Terra.

Music-wise, I don't have a whole lot to comment on. OP 1 is pretty good. OP 2 is mindblowingly amazing. The EDs aren’t particularly well sung or anything, but I feel they did a good job of matching the tone of the endings well. Especially Moon and Terra. The ED sequences for those two routes really hit home.

Art-wise, Rewrite... varies... The backgrounds are pretty enough, and the sprites are fine, but CG quality ranges from atrocious to good.

Oppai.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 14 2013 22:17 GMT
#53108
On February 15 2013 04:10 maru~ wrote:
Chihayafuru is the AOTS.


stahp
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
February 14 2013 22:21 GMT
#53109
On February 15 2013 07:17 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 04:10 maru~ wrote:
Chihayafuru is the AOTS.


stahp

With what?
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 14 2013 22:25 GMT
#53110
On February 15 2013 06:22 Spazer wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Rewrite final thoughts] +
Common route was really well done. A ton of important information is just nonchalantly paraded in front of you. Supernatural events happen all the time, and Kotarou just plays it for comedic effect. It's hilariously misleading. The sheer relevance of the common route makes the whole presentation really impressive to me. Oh, and the jokes were usually pretty good too~

What was the point of Gil and Pani? They're barely plot relevant, but they still get sprites when Inoue doesn't. Odd choice.

Mappie is a pain in the ass, and whoever came up with that shit is a sadist.

Kotori route serves as a decent introduction to the situation since she's basically a third party to the whole thing. The problem is, it drags itself out too long. Once they left the barrier, the outcome seemed pretty clear. The rest was just an exercise in reaching the end.

Chihaya Sakuya route is great because Chihaya Sakuya is an absolute boss. A relevant quote:
Tonokawa: So I figured it'd be nice if [Sakuya] failed to achieve his biggest goal, and ended up entrusting Kotarou to achieve it in his place. But back when we released the trial everyone seemed to hate him.

Ryuukishi: There's no avoiding that at the beginning of the story......(laughs)

Tonokawa: I was trying to write him as an unlikeable guy, but I overdid it (laughs). But as soon as he does something a little nice suddenly everyone seems to like him......it's not fair.

There's honestly not much to this route besides Sakuya. I guess making the dial spin out of control in the bad end was pretty amusing. ~_~

Shizuru route, I feel, is the weakest of all the routes. Getting a closer look at Guardian was quite nice. The latter part of the route was really quite unsatisfying though. We also got an appearance by Chihaya and Sakuya, but they really didn't do anything... It's kinda weird that Shizuru is the only heroine that gets completely shafted in her route (Actually, that reminds me of a certain crimson red vermillion~). This route can also be summed up in one word: saury.

Lucia route. I really enjoyed the horror story type stuff that occurred at the start of the route. The ending I wasn’t so keen on, but overall, I guess it wasn't half bad. I still take issue with Shizuru losing that fight. D: Extra shoutout for one of the better uses of rewrite in this route. Tohno Shiki would be proud.

Also, SHE KILLED YOSHINO. What an asshole.

Akane route was mediocre. I didn't really appreciate the whole "Suzaki is actually a good guy!" twist, even if it makes sense considering Akane's mindset. I did like the ending with them venturing out into the unknown though. The fact that Yoshino actually shows up in this route (and is of moderate importance!) was pretty refreshing.

Moon route was great. It was very reminiscent of Tsuki no Sango, which I also liked. I had mixed feelings about the familiar attacks, but whatever. More Sakuya is also never a bad thing. The title screen after this route was pretty fantastic too.

Terra route was pretty good. It did a great job of addressing all the lingering questions. The whole non-choice mechanic was pretty novel, and it made sense. The development of the Guardian old guard was really good stuff. Esaka, Nishikujou, and Imamiya all benefited greatly from that backstory. What the heck happened to the Earth Dragon fight in this route? We finally learn that it's sentient, it says two lines, and then it dies. Offscreen. The ending of Terra had its ups and downs. Esaka's death was legitimately saddening (the monochrome cg and pose also reminded me of a certain LoGH scene). Kagari's death was just... weird. It felt like a letdown, considering how the route had been built up to that point. The final sequence with the occult club summoning familiar Kotarou was handled fine though. I am more than ok with that sort of bittersweet end.

The sheer hypocrisy of Terra was pretty funny, in retrospect. Kotarou spends the whole first half of the route telling Kagari that he can't just run into Gaia/Guardian headquarters and slaughter everyone. And then, that's exactly what he does. ~_~ The fact that they sought out and assassinated Suzaki is also funny after what we learned in Akane route.

The unintended (or maybe it is? ) creepiness of Kotarou being in his thirties in common route is hilarious. Lusts after children 10+ years younger than him. Licking plates. Groping breasts. Truly an enemy of mankind.

Imamiya's first appearance in common route is pretty cool after reading Terra.

Music-wise, I don't have a whole lot to comment on. OP 1 is pretty good. OP 2 is mindblowingly amazing. The EDs aren’t particularly well sung or anything, but I feel they did a good job of matching the tone of the endings well. Especially Moon and Terra. The ED sequences for those two routes really hit home.

Art-wise, Rewrite... varies... The backgrounds are pretty enough, and the sprites are fine, but CG quality ranges from atrocious to good.

Oppai.


+ Show Spoiler +
Agreed on a lot of your points. I really liked the first half of Lucia route, but not so much the second half. Esaka's death just became all the much sadder now that you mentioned it's like LoGH u.u. Sakyua route obviously best route.



Started watching Monster. This and Eralee from Inganock makes me lose faith in doctors.

On a more serious note, I'm at episode 10 and so far it's really good.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
February 14 2013 22:39 GMT
#53111
caught up on magi, has been a while since i watched such a good shonen, in fact, i would only consider fma or hxh equals at this point, a major arc just ended and it had really everything, powerful action, great characters, a fantastic universe, i could not ask for more, also a bit similar to avatar, the last airbender, i wholeheartedly recommend it =)
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
February 14 2013 23:06 GMT
#53112
goddamnit i love psycho pass.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 23:23:17
February 14 2013 23:20 GMT
#53113
On February 15 2013 07:39 Naphal wrote:
caught up on magi, has been a while since i watched such a good shonen, in fact, i would only consider fma or hxh equals at this point, a major arc just ended and it had really everything, powerful action, great characters, a fantastic universe, i could not ask for more, also a bit similar to avatar, the last airbender, i wholeheartedly recommend it =)


Except shoddy art work and cheap production...

(But it's impossible to out shounen One Piece, it's an axiom)
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 14 2013 23:23 GMT
#53114
On February 15 2013 08:20 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:39 Naphal wrote:
caught up on magi, has been a while since i watched such a good shonen, in fact, i would only consider fma or hxh equals at this point, a major arc just ended and it had really everything, powerful action, great characters, a fantastic universe, i could not ask for more, also a bit similar to avatar, the last airbender, i wholeheartedly recommend it =)


Except shoddy art work and cheap production...


Latest episode. Lolframes.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 23:34:30
February 14 2013 23:26 GMT
#53115
It's been an ongoing problem really. What a shame with really good source.

On a side note: Best Shounen ever (besides OP): Yuyu Hakusho, Slam Dunk
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 15 2013 01:03 GMT
#53116
On February 15 2013 08:26 ragz_gt wrote:
It's been an ongoing problem really. What a shame with really good source.

On a side note: Best Shounen ever (besides OP): Yuyu Hakusho


yeah easy, Id throw HxH in there to.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
February 15 2013 01:27 GMT
#53117
New vol of Banner of The Stars suppose to come out next month!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:33:49
February 15 2013 01:31 GMT
#53118
On February 15 2013 10:27 ragz_gt wrote:
New vol of Banner of The Stars suppose to come out next month!

i call bullshit

FUCK YES
そして、今月の「敵は海賊」新刊、2月の「クラッシャージョウ」新刊に続いて、3月下旬には『星界の戦旗Ⅴ 宿命の調べ』が刊行予定です。どうぞよろしくお願いします。
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 15 2013 01:50 GMT
#53119
So I went to check Hayakawa because I choose not to believe it.

ファンが待ちに待った戦旗シリーズ、第一部完結!

Well we fucked.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:52:02
February 15 2013 01:50 GMT
#53120
On February 15 2013 10:03 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 08:26 ragz_gt wrote:
It's been an ongoing problem really. What a shame with really good source.

On a side note: Best Shounen ever (besides OP): Yuyu Hakusho


yeah easy, Id throw HxH in there to.


Eh... I'd not throw HxH anywhere until Togashi decides WTF his plan is. And it's not that good since greed island arc anyway

On February 15 2013 10:31 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 10:27 ragz_gt wrote:
New vol of Banner of The Stars suppose to come out next month!

i call bullshit

FUCK YES
そして、今月の「敵は海賊」新刊、2月の「クラッシャージョウ」新刊に続いて、3月下旬には『星界の戦旗Ⅴ 宿命の調べ』が刊行予定です。どうぞよろしくお願いします。


Pfft

On February 15 2013 10:50 Ecael wrote:
So I went to check Hayakawa because I choose not to believe it.

ファンが待ちに待った戦旗シリーズ、第一部完結!

Well we fucked.


At this rate (1 vol in 8 years) it should finish by year 2100
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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