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On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:[quote] Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it. Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu. Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow. Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime.
And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/
Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_>
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On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
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Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu. Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow. Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_>
yumekui merry also got an anime and the creator was previously known for creating a touhou advent children parody, so your point is moot
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On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
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Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu. Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow. Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_>
I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications.
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On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
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Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu. Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow. Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_>
Wasn't BRS fan made? That got tv series and ova.
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On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
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Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow. Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications.
I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards.
I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres.
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On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
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Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres.
My mind is blown. I cannot believe you're being serious. I don't even know how to respond to that. Like, holy shit my brain hurts.
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On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
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Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres.
Sword Art Online Chapter 16.5
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On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
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Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation. Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres.
Please explain to me how SAO is not harem.
On September 10 2012 11:16 blahz0r wrote:
Hmm a harem consisting of like 4 people?
It grows...a lot.
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SAO could be ecchi... look at the doujins for it.
Asuna is moe in a way =x
Hmm a harem consisting of like 4 people?
If anything, I think most people like SAO because there's a cute thing going on in game. Cute things(you could call this love) + swords + action = people attracted.
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On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
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Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem.
Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can.
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On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
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Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.
Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)
Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.
Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?
Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can.
Are you watching the same show as everyone else? I suppose there's no huge tits, but other than that I think you're being blind.
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On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
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Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.
Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)
Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.
Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?
Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can.
On September 10 2012 11:14 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
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Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point. Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr. Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao) Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy. Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation? Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Sword Art Online Chapter 16.5
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On September 10 2012 11:20 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
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You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.
I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can. Are you watching the same show as everyone else? I suppose there's no huge tits, but other than that I think you're being blind.
Ass shots...Ass shots everywhere!
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On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
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Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.
Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)
Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.
Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?
Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can.
I'm sorry did you say something?
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/7/7d/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_301.jpg
okay sorry that's only 2 females with huge tits hanging off his arms. You're right, my bad.
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On September 10 2012 11:23 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
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You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.
I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can. I'm sorry did you say something? http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/7/7d/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_301.jpgokay sorry that's only 2 females with huge tits hanging off his arms. You're right, my bad.
It's ok, you're bound to be wrong some time or another. Glad you admitted it. ^_^
But on a serious note, would you call any LN/Anime harem if it had one random shot of two girls with 'big tits' hanging off the MC's arm? Or is it just THIS LN/Anime. I'm not quite sure how you define harem. If you define harem with one scene with two females hanging off his arm, then going by your sense of definition - that classifies 80% of anime as harem.
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Re: the doijin thing
Well yes, some people do go from self publishing to being big but really that's along the lines of an unscouted, undrafted pro-athlete, how many really make it big?
Re: SAO
I'm still working my way through the novels but so far they've avoided tropes pretty well which I like. So far they've avoided the indecisive and infuriating weak lead and the oh-so-random cases of perverted encounters for the most part. That itself already puts it in the 1% for me.
Re: 16.5
I don't get why people keep bringing that up, it should be considered as the creator making doujinshi of his own stuff, several authors do that...
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On September 10 2012 11:16 blahz0r wrote:
Cute things(you could call this love) + swords + action = people attracted.
Another reason why Gundam SEED Destiny is the best show of all time. Though 00 Gundam Season 1 might be better since the hero had seven times as many swords...
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On September 10 2012 11:30 Taku wrote:
Re: the doijin thing
Well yes, some people do go from self publishing to being big but really that's along the lines of an unscouted, undrafted pro-athlete, how many really make it big?
Re: SAO
I'm still working my way through the novels but so far they've avoided tropes pretty well which I like. So far they've avoided the indecisive and infuriating weak lead and the oh-so-random cases of perverted encounters for the most part. That itself already puts it in the 1% for me.
Re: 16.5
I don't get why people keep bringing that up, it should be considered as the creator making doujinshi of his own stuff, several authors do that...
Edit: A great many of LN authors were webnovel authors first. Narcissu's rights were bought out by a company, and Touhou makes a shitton of money even if Zun sees not a cent.
It's not though. It was in the original webnovel. I don't see how it avoids tropes at all, the series is PURE FANSERVICE. 100%. It has no meat to anything. Romances do not go from meeting each other to marriage in two days, and you certainly do not glop gallons of semen.
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On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
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Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.
Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)
Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.
Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?
Implying you know what you're talking about. You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't. I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can.
Who are Asuna, Lizbet, Silica, Suguha, and Sinon, and how do they not all want his cock?
On September 10 2012 11:23 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
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You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.
I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better? What. Also "And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou. And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can. I'm sorry did you say something? http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/7/7d/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_301.jpgokay sorry that's only 2 females with huge tits hanging off his arms. You're right, my bad.
Oh yeah, those two as well, so 7.
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On September 10 2012 11:28 Sickkiee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 11:23 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:19 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:15 KazeHydra wrote:On September 10 2012 11:12 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 11:07 Kaal wrote:On September 10 2012 11:02 Taku wrote:On September 10 2012 10:52 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:
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I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?
What.
Also
"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.
And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool. I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands. How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry. Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular. Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime. And Gundam SEED got not only an anime, but a remake. MASTERPIECE \o/ Also the doujin thing is that doujin-originated stuff has like a 0.00000000001% chance of getting an anime I'd say, with SAO being part of that small percentage. I don't get how liking it makes it any less likely for any other stuff to get picked up. Yes money is zero sum but really? And I don't really think it'd be worth deconstructing(lol) why I think SAO is different and more deserving all things considered >_> I'm not saying I want doujinworks to get an anime, I'm just saying I want stuff that's not shit. You liking it means maybe you spend money on it, you spending money on it means you're giving money to a shit publication, you giving money to a shit publication means more shit publications. I don't know many people who actually buy stuff online for animes. There might be a few - but it's not a major factor in most anime studios decision when picking up adaptions; since most people will buy it from companies that license the anime afterwards. I do agree I want less shit anime (mainly harem/moe/ecchi) since I hate that shit, but that's one of the reasons I like SAO atm, since it's not one of those three genres. Please explain to me how SAO is not harem. Because it's not blatant harem where it has 5-6 females with huge tits all hanging off his arm's wanting to fuck him the second they can. I'm sorry did you say something? http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/7/7d/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_301.jpgokay sorry that's only 2 females with huge tits hanging off his arms. You're right, my bad. It's ok, you're bound to be wrong some time or another. Glad you admitted it. ^_^ But on a serious note, would you call any LN/Anime harem if it had one random shot of two girls with 'big tits' hanging off the MC's arm? Or is it just THIS LN/Anime. I'm not quite sure how you define harem. If you define harem with one scene with two females hanging off his arm, then going by your sense of definition - that classifies 80% of anime as harem.
When girls fall in love with MC left and right, I would call it harem. Pretty much every female Kirito encounters gains some level of romantic feelings for him, even + Show Spoiler [SAO LN] + How is that not harem? Of course, to be fair, it's not like SAO's only genre is harem, but don't know how you can say it isn't.
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