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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 10 2012 00:34 GMT
#46481
On September 10 2012 09:13 Kaal wrote:
In other news Horizon S2 vol 1 outsells Glop Art Online vol 1 20k to 15k.


Wow that's kinda surprising since SAO novel is extremely popular
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 00:35:44
September 10 2012 00:35 GMT
#46482
I don't think the SAO novels out-sell the Horizon blunt weapons lol.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 10 2012 00:37 GMT
#46483
Actually I am pretty sure SAO novels outsold Horizon, at least from Amazon.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 10 2012 00:38 GMT
#46484
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 00:46:34
September 10 2012 00:39 GMT
#46485
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

I don't particularly feel bad for liking parts of SAO. Wish fulfillment isn't exactly bad when it comes to entertainment, nor does SAO tries to be more than what it should be, at least, until Alicization, but by then the point should have been thematic enough to make a degree of sense. There are parts that are trashier than others, but really it hits par far as this market goes. There really isn't any reason to hold it up to any higher standard than what one would judge LNs with, that is, unless you are shauni and everything must be compared to b-rated flicks.

As for glop, lol, I hope people would give it a rest already. The guy wasn't even published by that point, writing porn for a wish fulfillment character is probably one of the easiest ways for you to sell your writing. Look at Key and how they caved in with LB:Ex. It isn't published because it isn't professional and it got taken off the guy's site, what more do people want?

On September 10 2012 09:14 Southlight wrote:
I would say that's fantastic except s2 has been an utter disaster so I hope Sunrise goes and dies in a fire.

How much sense could you make out of this week's episode?
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 00:42:45
September 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#46486
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 00:50:09
September 10 2012 00:47 GMT
#46487
+ Show Spoiler [Koi Sen 08] +
Looks like he got the Shinonome-san route, YEH BUDDY!!! Fuck Chisato, bitch is trying too hard and it forced Hazuki to tell her off, get friend-zoned hoe hahaha.

But my god... Shinonome-san is like S-class waifu forreals, so fcking hot jesus christ.

10/10 I would bang
Skol
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 10 2012 00:52 GMT
#46488
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
September 10 2012 00:53 GMT
#46489
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 10 2012 00:54 GMT
#46490
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Hes supporting an anime that has nothing to do with high school. I say thats a plus!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 10 2012 00:57 GMT
#46491
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Too bad KyoAni's success already makes it pretty obvious what sells?

ZNF is killing Anime yo.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 10 2012 01:02 GMT
#46492
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 10 2012 01:03 GMT
#46493
On September 10 2012 09:57 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Too bad KyoAni's success already makes it pretty obvious what sells?

ZNF is killing Anime yo.


Well out of curiosity, besides Kyoani stuff, do a lot of the other moe moe stuff sell really well? I'm not experienced at all in this so I'm just wondering.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
September 10 2012 01:07 GMT
#46494
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 10 2012 01:07 GMT
#46495
On September 10 2012 10:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:57 Ecael wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Too bad KyoAni's success already makes it pretty obvious what sells?

ZNF is killing Anime yo.


Well out of curiosity, besides Kyoani stuff, do a lot of the other moe moe stuff sell really well? I'm not experienced at all in this so I'm just wondering.


K-On is the only real complete MOE series that's sold incredibly well, it's among the top 10 anime sold in the last 10 years. OreImo is the only other thing I would call a Moe show in the top 50.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 10 2012 01:09 GMT
#46496
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:12:07
September 10 2012 01:10 GMT
#46497
On September 10 2012 10:07 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:57 Ecael wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Too bad KyoAni's success already makes it pretty obvious what sells?

ZNF is killing Anime yo.


Well out of curiosity, besides Kyoani stuff, do a lot of the other moe moe stuff sell really well? I'm not experienced at all in this so I'm just wondering.


K-On is the only real complete MOE series that's sold incredibly well, it's among the top 10 anime sold in the last 10 years. OreImo is the only other thing I would call a Moe show in the top 50.

It depends on what you are looking for really, nothing focuses as hard on moe as Kyoani stuff nowadays, but most things take elements of it to get sales, refer back to harem type entertainment and selling girls.
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

I actually wouldn't want to see half of the stuff you listed in anime form lol. Also Daidenyuuden probably could get one if it ever finishes, author has been churning it out at a much slower rate. Must be hard to not write about dango. Considering the average quality of anime, I'd much rather anime being dead instead of watching things I like get butchered.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:14:33
September 10 2012 01:13 GMT
#46498
On September 10 2012 10:10 Ecael wrote:
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On September 10 2012 10:07 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:03 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:57 Ecael wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Too bad KyoAni's success already makes it pretty obvious what sells?

ZNF is killing Anime yo.


Well out of curiosity, besides Kyoani stuff, do a lot of the other moe moe stuff sell really well? I'm not experienced at all in this so I'm just wondering.


K-On is the only real complete MOE series that's sold incredibly well, it's among the top 10 anime sold in the last 10 years. OreImo is the only other thing I would call a Moe show in the top 50.

It depends on what you are looking for really, nothing focuses as hard on moe as Kyoani stuff nowadays, but most things take elements of it to get sales, refer back to harem type entertainment and selling girls.
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On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
[quote]

Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

I actually wouldn't want to see half of the stuff you listed in anime form lol. Also Daidenyuuden probably could get one if it ever finishes, author has been churning it out at a much slower rate. Must be hard to not write about dango. Considering the average quality of anime, I'd much rather anime being dead instead of watching things I like get butchered.



I wouldn't either I'm just giving examples of stuff that's better than GAO that could get an adaptation.

Edit: And yeah there's IS, Love Hina, Fruits Basket, things like that in top 50.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
September 10 2012 01:13 GMT
#46499
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.


Ya but as you so kindly put it in the previous response to me (cbf finding it) and truthfully, you are right.

Although I DO like SAO, anime caters to the Japanese population and well, more so the otaku's. They are the people that buy all the figma, manga, LN's, DVD's etc.

The people that don't live in Japan, unfortunately no matter how much one doesn't like said anime, won't change the fact that certain animes (actually most animes) cater to a particular group. The group you said previously.

At the end of the day, it's about making money. :C
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Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:18:23
September 10 2012 01:15 GMT
#46500
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:13 Daumen wrote:
For wich anime does "SAO" stand for?


Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it gamer "mainstream" like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank on a quick glance of the charts. And they're still all on first glance fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.
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