• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:41
CET 07:41
KST 15:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage8Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? Liquibets sc2 season 30 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement!
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool List of top players active on ShieldBattery [BW] Looking for Clan Thread! [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11830 users

Anime Discussion Thread - Page 2326

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2324 2325 2326 2327 2328 6486 Next
If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2585 Posts
September 10 2012 01:21 GMT
#46501
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:14 Kaal wrote:
[quote]

Glop Art Online.

Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 10 2012 01:22 GMT
#46502
This reminds me I need to finish Inganock. I took a break at chapter 5 cause the creature battles were getting a little repetitive and those fucking puzzles in the intermission... I generally like it so better start back ^^.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:26:36
September 10 2012 01:24 GMT
#46503
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
[quote]
Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.

>Using implying on places other than 4chan
>mfw ಠ_ಠ

So basically it boils down to people not liking things you like, and likings things you don't like. And that you think that if you insult them by invalidating their opinions rather than giving constructive counterpoints that they'll like things you like.

When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:27:31
September 10 2012 01:26 GMT
#46504
On September 10 2012 10:24 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
[quote]

It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.

>Using implying on places other than 4chan
>mfw ಠ_ಠ

So basically it boils down to people not liking things you like, and likings things you don't like. And that you think that if you insult them by invalidating their opinions rather than giving constructive counterpoints that they'll like things you like.

mfw (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻



I don't give a shit if they like the things I like as long as they don't watch the things I don't like, so that there's more of the things I like.

Also I didn't stoop to using greentext like you.

Edit: ಠ_ಠ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ lel reddit lel
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
September 10 2012 01:27 GMT
#46505
Kyoani has the moe formula down. They can do no wrong.

I personally want to see Biscuit Hammer animated.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:36:56
September 10 2012 01:27 GMT
#46506
Kaal doesnt post much in ADT.

But when he does, its always entertaining.

+ Show Spoiler +
Stay thirsty my friends.
Skol
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:28:23
September 10 2012 01:28 GMT
#46507
On September 10 2012 10:26 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:24 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
[quote]
Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.

>Using implying on places other than 4chan
>mfw ಠ_ಠ

So basically it boils down to people not liking things you like, and likings things you don't like. And that you think that if you insult them by invalidating their opinions rather than giving constructive counterpoints that they'll like things you like.

mfw (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻



I don't give a shit if they like the things I like as long as they don't watch the things I don't like, so that there's more of the things I like.

Also I didn't stoop to using greentext like you.

Well since you're so passionate in making fun of SAO I thought you'd have a reason that I shouldn't watch it that I didn't notice rather than 'the things that I like are better'.

For the audience I hope you've been entertained tonight *bows*
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 10 2012 01:28 GMT
#46508
On September 10 2012 10:22 Tabbris wrote:
This reminds me I need to finish Inganock. I took a break at chapter 5 cause the creature battles were getting a little repetitive and those fucking puzzles in the intermission... I generally like it so better start back ^^.

Fandisc gave us like 2 more creatures, was fun, now the long wait until the next steampunk series game shows.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
September 10 2012 01:29 GMT
#46509
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:33 Taku wrote:
[quote]
Okay I think that joke is dead at this point.


It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.


Lifes too short to be small.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:30:16
September 10 2012 01:30 GMT
#46510
On September 10 2012 10:28 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:22 Tabbris wrote:
This reminds me I need to finish Inganock. I took a break at chapter 5 cause the creature battles were getting a little repetitive and those fucking puzzles in the intermission... I generally like it so better start back ^^.

Fandisc gave us like 2 more creatures, was fun, now the long wait until the next steampunk series game shows.

Fandisk? What fandisk? Is this something I should know about?!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 10 2012 01:31 GMT
#46511
On September 10 2012 10:27 Nagisama wrote:
Kyoani has the moe formula down. They can do no wrong.

I personally want to see Biscuit Hammer animated.

Well no shit, who wouldn't?
It's your boy Guzma!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:32:36
September 10 2012 01:32 GMT
#46512
On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:38 Kaal wrote:
[quote]

It's not though. It has to be repeated so that everyone who watches and likes that show feels bad for it.

Watching/reading GAO is, no if's ands or buts about it, exactly like reading/watching Twilight or Shades of Grey. It's pure fanfiction/insertion with bland characterization that appeals to angsty teenagers and other such undesirables.

Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.





I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?

What.

Also

"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.

And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
September 10 2012 01:37 GMT
#46513
On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
[quote]
Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.





I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?

What.

Also

"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.

And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool.

Uh, doujinshi = self-published stuff. Like, SAO was a doujin web novel until it got picked up. How is that not obscure?
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
September 10 2012 01:41 GMT
#46514
On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:42 Taku wrote:
[quote]
Okay I'm waiting for some water to boil right now so I'll take the bait. From my point of view anime is either escapist or simple entertainment, with the rare genuine examples of art. SAO is, plain and simple, escapist/fantasy fiction written so the reader can put themselves in the POV of the protag and imagine/live out that world. I don't think it was intended more than anything else, and if it really makes you feel that bad that others are enjoying themselves doing so then I can't help you.


The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.





I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?

What.

Also

"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.

And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool.


I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands.

How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry.
Lifes too short to be small.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 01:47:16
September 10 2012 01:43 GMT
#46515
On September 10 2012 10:37 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
[quote]

The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.





I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?

What.

Also

"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.

And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool.

Uh, doujinshi = self-published stuff. Like, SAO was a doujin web novel until it got picked up. How is that not obscure?


Because some doujin things are insanely popular, even though self puplished. Things like Touhou or Narcissu. And even then, obscure to the general public yes, definitely. But not to the people who watch late night anime.



I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell


That's why I'm saying don't watch GAO. The more you watch the crap, the more the crap sells, the more crap we get.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
September 10 2012 01:48 GMT
#46516

constructive counterpoints

By the way "it is popular" or "it sells" or "a lot of these people like it" are not aspects of a product that make it appealing. They are results. An anime has x attributes, and as a result people receive it in y way. If you want to have an "anime discussion" or in other words, discuss the anime, that entails focusing on the anime's content. We don't care that x thousands of Japanese like SAO enough to buy it, we want to know what about SAO itself has merit. Of course the topic of target audience preferences might come up in terms of: "I assume or I have read that this Japanese audience likes this show for these reasons." But I haven't seen any such concrete reasons beyond words that convey no actual meaning such as "good, fun, entertaining" etc.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 10 2012 01:50 GMT
#46517
On September 10 2012 10:43 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:37 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
[quote]
Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.





I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?

What.

Also

"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.

And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool.

Uh, doujinshi = self-published stuff. Like, SAO was a doujin web novel until it got picked up. How is that not obscure?


Because some doujin things are insanely popular, even though self puplished. Things like Touhou or Narcissu. And even then, obscure to the general public yes, definitely. But not to the people who watch late night anime.

Show nested quote +


I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell


That's why I'm saying don't watch GAO. The more you watch the crap, the more the crap sells, the more crap we get.

Unless they are watching it through crunchyroll I doubt they are influencing anything lol. Go take your frustrations on japan ^^
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 10 2012 01:52 GMT
#46518
On September 10 2012 10:41 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
[quote]

The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.





I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?

What.

Also

"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.

And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool.


I'm saying the REASON why SAO was picked up before Muramusa is purely because it would sell; and they were right. I'm not going to have a go at you for having your opinion, I've never read Muramusa nor heard of it, so if you say it's good I may read it or something - but the point stands.

How is it obscure if it's doujin? Wtf lol. Doujin is HUGE in the anime fanbase in Japan. I don't get what you mean sorry.

Even though thats the reason SAO was picked up before Muramasa, at the end of the day Gundam SEED Destiny is more popular.

Even the 'fujoshi's' over at Akiba who've watched the anime still believe it's a good anime.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
September 10 2012 01:58 GMT
#46519
Although somewhat unreleated note, SAO doujinshi is releasing by the masses.

popcorn.gif
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 10 2012 02:00 GMT
#46520
On September 10 2012 10:37 Taku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 10:32 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:29 Sickkiee wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:21 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:15 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:09 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:07 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 10:02 Kaal wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:53 Taku wrote:
On September 10 2012 09:52 Kaal wrote:
[quote]

The more people that watch and buy crap like GAO we get less actual quality anime from series that actually have good characters or story. So if you like GAO you are literally killing anime.

Less actual quality like what? If you start listing fanservice anime I'm going to lose it.



Light Novels like Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria or Daiyuuden, or Visual Novels like Baldr Sky, Muramusa, Sharin no Kuni, Inganock or Narcissu.

Uh..."quality anime." You just gave a list of obscure titles that I assume you like. And the only difference between all of those and SAO is that SAO is popular. I don't follow.



Those aren't obscure titles, except maybe Utsohako. SAO is not an anime original series it's a light novel series. Like 80% of anime released is a light novel or visual novel adaptation.

Well I assume you're speaking in terms of quality of the anime adaption but also quality of the source materials. VNs are 99% obscure and only known by otakus, don't kid yourself no one else in Japan follows them outside of the few that make it mainstream like Clannad or steins;gate. And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure. SAO sells 100k+ per volume, the ones you've listed don't really rank. And they're still all fantasy stories with the exception of being even more tropish/bland than Sword Art Online. Popularity is what gets you adaptions, I still can't see your point.



Implying that I don't know that basically every anime airing airs between 12 AM and 2 AM and that only otakus watch it. Gee willikers because they definitely don't make anime that market to that particular demographic. Gee let's not make things like VNs into anime so that our target audience will watch it. hurr durr.

Implying Muramusa isn't uplifted by virtually everyone who's played it as the greatest VN ever made (lol more bland that sao)

Implying they're all fantasy, which is just plain wrong unless you count sci-fi as fantasy.

Implying things that sell well mean they're actually good. Gee I better go read Shades of Grey I'm sure it's a masterpiece. When's the anime adaptation?

Implying you know what you're talking about.


You know they make adaptions that are going to be popular. Sure YOU may like anime x, but if the crowd y don't like it, studio z will not make it due to not enough profit involved. So for the 20th time saying this, it's not about whats good to YOU . It's about whats good to the crowd in JAPAN and what they think. Everyone's got their own opinion on anime and insulting them isn't very mature. Some people like SAO, some don't. Don't force your shit onto other people because you think you know better. Clearly you don't.





I'm asking for stuff like Muramusa instead of crap like GAO and you think I don't know better?

What.

Also

"And if it's doujin,it is also by definition obscure." Tell that to touhou.

And yeah Biscuit Hammer would be cool.

Uh, doujinshi = self-published stuff. Like, SAO was a doujin web novel until it got picked up. How is that not obscure?

ohi touhous reporting in
i heard something about 100k selling for dutchwife frenzy? something about how doujin stuff is obscure and how SAO isn't because it was picked up? something about doujin being obscure because nobody has heard of tohos?

personally i want snsiv, but capitalism ho
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Prev 1 2324 2325 2326 2327 2328 6486 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 184
mcanning 79
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3278
GuemChi 1193
Bale 35
ZergMaN 33
Hyun 22
NotJumperer 12
Force[name] 6
Icarus 6
LuMiX 1
Counter-Strike
fl0m3364
Coldzera 1127
Other Games
summit1g9393
WinterStarcraft363
NeuroSwarm81
Mew2King78
ViBE54
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick521
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki73
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2185
League of Legends
• Lourlo985
• Stunt345
Upcoming Events
INu's Battles
5h 19m
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
9h 49m
The PondCast
1d 3h
KCM Race Survival
1d 3h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 5h
OSC
1d 16h
Ultimate Battle
2 days
OSC
2 days
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
IPSL
3 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
4 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.