EPTalso the new madhouse anime is unbearable for me, i would rather retry to watch hyakka ryouran samurai girls xD
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
also the new madhouse anime is unbearable for me, i would rather retry to watch hyakka ryouran samurai girls xD | ||
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zeross
France310 Posts
On July 09 2012 04:41 Emnjay808 wrote: When the hell is Joshiraku gonna get subbed? This ED... Im going insane rewatching it 100 times a day... Totaly ! i'm hesitating on watching it raw... i expect it to be a little more hard to understand than dog days :/ | ||
Spazer
Canada8028 Posts
On July 09 2012 05:37 Naphal wrote: why does moyashimon s2 look worse animationwise? -.- girls especially... i mean it is not as bad as gunslinger girl il teatrino but still... The times, they are a changin' | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
[17:53] <@Seki> the first would be to accept musashi and set up lines against seiren, ignore the fight with the armada by calling it "interpretation," and attempting to solve the end of the world with musashi [17:53] <@Seki> if they were to choose this route, they would avoid casualities and combat costs of the naval battle with the armada, and would be able to gain a strong position during the westfaren meeting toward solving the end of the world [17:54] <@Seki> england could also take control of the drive toward independence by their trading partner the protestant holland [17:54] <@Seki> afterward they could strengthen their voice amongst the holy union, and even become an alliance leader [17:55] <@Seki> but england chose the other path --to consider musashi an enemy of the holy union, and by rejecting them, agree to continue redoing history [17:56] <@Seki> by not opposing the holy union, they would not have to deal with other countries 'opposing to their interpretation' regarding the armada war and at the westfaren meeting, and they can receive aid, so it's a more conservative choice [17:56] <@Seki> england's loismoi obero is "greed," so they were able to show some self-restrain this time" [17:57] <@Seki> "but, the reason they chose that path-" [17:57] <@Seki> "what triggered it was tres espania's attack on musashi. with regards to the musashi, which opposes the holy union, tres espania responded with a show of force. then what would england, also a part of the holy union, do? [17:58] <@Seki> if they were to accept musashi, they would become an enemy of all of the holy union [17:58] <@Seki> furthermore, if england did not attack musashi, tres espania could take their main fleet and "warn" england under the name of scouting [17:59] <@Seki> 'to check if [england is] an enemy of the holy union' [17:59] <@Seki> ^-- why england attacked musashi [17:59] <@Seki> cuz they explained that very well in the anime [17:59] <Chihaya-chan> lol [17:59] <Chihaya-chan> WE ATTACK | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 08 2012 23:52 Maxie wrote: MLA: end + Show Spoiler + Well, that was it. I have no clue of how many hours it took me, but now it's over. Now, I have to mention that I haven't played many VN:s before the ML series (a little Fate/Stay Night), so giving out ratings isn't really something I can do - but it's certainly somewhere between 9 and 10. The biggest problem is getting through Extra. Unlimited was also not that great, but it was still enjoyable, and playing MLA without having played those beforehand simply wouldn't have worked, so I'm glad I got through them. There are a lot of nice characters (I never liked Chizuru even in Unlimited/MLA, but that didn't prevent her and Ayamine from having an epic final moment), and pretty nice interaction between them, and the setting is quite well done, with humans getting royally fucked by the BETA, politics, etc. As I said I haven't played that many VN:s, so I'm still not entirely used to the way a lot of the action is done (can't help but want more anime-ish parts), but it was still pretty good (and the anime-ish parts were reserved for the utterly awesome moments). The OST really does a great job at setting the mood, with everything from sad moments to briefings to Takeru beastmode. Something that really makes the many death scenes that much better. I feel like they were all well done, though Meyia's was the best, imo. I got pretty angry when I saw what happened to Tamase though (or, well, her body) Some people might complain about the ending, and think that it was a "too happy" ending. Well, while Takeru does get an uber harem, the many sad moments during the game makes up for it - and just because Takeru gets his happy ending, it doesn't mean that the sacrifices that were made were undone. The other world is still fighting the BETA. That said, I got really happy in the ending when Kasumi showed up. She's so cute, I want a bonus Kasumi route NOW!! As for flaws with MLA, right now I'll narrow it down to "Oh God tentacles Q.Q". Starting to wonder what will happen in MLA:TE, since it's supposed to be in Alaska and basically no beta after ep2. Politics? More Alternatives? The timeline compared to MLA, and if what happens in MLA will be mentioned in/affect TE? I wanna know. + Show Spoiler + There is a fandisk for it called "MLA: Altered Fable" It isn't translated, probably never will be. Age claims its not a sequel to Alternative, but... come on, just watch that and remember Alternative's ending lol. Essentially its Extra, except with much more Alternative characters in it. No idea if its actually as generic as Extra. Including Kasumi, Female Mikoto, Yuuhi, Captain Isumi, Lt. Hayase, the rest of the Valkyries, and WALKEN. However, Altered Fable DOES come with a Strategy Game that fans refer to as "Get Raped by BETA: The Game". It has a difficulty setting in that game called "Real", with the description as something like "this is what it feels like to actually live in this world". As for Total Eclipse, the LN at least starts a few months prior to Alternative, and eventually runs concurrent with it. Apparently the LN ended on a cliff hanger, with the cast about to take part in that Global Hive Distraction Operation from the end of Alternative. I don't think there are actually any Post-Alternative stories out there right now. If you want more translated Muv-Luv stuff, one of the "Alternative Chronicles" side stories has been translated on Youtube, MLA: Chicken Divers. Its a story about some Orbitial Drop Troopers from Alternative. I actually haven't gotten around to reading that one. Also, Volume 1 of MLA: Schwaresmarken has been translated. Schwaresmarken takes place in the 1980s, in East German, and is about a group of Germans on a "Laser Hunter" operation. Unfortunately scans for volumes past 1 don't exist, so only volume 1 is translated right now. Anyway, glad you enjoyed Alternative! Its my favorite VN of all time. I really would like to see MLA in anime form, which is why I want TE to do well. I'm sure it will sell well at the very least, since it does have alot of hot girls in it. If IS can sell well, then TE better. But as far as VNs go, since you said you haven't seen alot, MLA is one of the highest budget VNs of all time, so the "animation" and visuals in it take a huge dump on almost every other VN out there. | ||
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United States11761 Posts
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On July 09 2012 07:33 Southlight wrote: As mentioned before Maxie, TE is about the weapons testing facility in Alaska, where they R&D weapons that eventually are used in the VN and on. It's a huge swarm of nationalism and such. Feels like it could be fun, but it better be cool tech they come up with. | ||
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United States11761 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 09 2012 08:05 Maxie wrote: Feels like it could be fun, but it better be cool tech they come up with. Edit: Nevermind.. + Show Spoiler + On July 09 2012 07:33 Southlight wrote: As mentioned before Maxie, TE is about the weapons testing facility in Alaska, where they R&D weapons that eventually are used in the VN and on. It's a huge swarm of nationalism and such. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
MLA: Total Eclipse: + Show Spoiler + Yesss, all that DESPAIR in Total Eclipse this week! Spend the entire episode watching all the not-actually-main-characters dying one by one, see almost every class of BETA, see Soldier-kuns having dinner... And then Yui's friend begs her to shoot her, before shes eaten, and Yui snaps and just starts firing wildly at the Tank-class. Then the Tank Class look at her, and go: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gt4dy.jpg) lol. I'm gonna have to rewatch this when the DVD/BD version comes out, and there is a better encode. This episode was so dark, and there was so much censoring. Zuikaku are essentially just really souped up F-4js, and its nice to watch Thunder Thighs fight so much. Even watching the Gekishits themselves fight. THEN DAT TYPE 94 SHIRAUNI, DAT TYPE-00R! Was too bad they weren't able to give the Shirauni any more screentime to show just what a Generation 2.5 TSF could do, but the dance of the Takemikazuchi at the end, so sexy. Apparently that was Yuuhi, according to the director, and not Ikaruga. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Poor Sumika!! Geez it fucking tragic. Cant say I didnt see that coming but still....just wow seeing her like that. I have a few questions if someone doesnt mind answering. 1.Im not fully sure why Sumika was the best canidate for being unit 00. Why does the beta preserving her brain make her better? 2. What does yuuko mean by saying she killed her? From wut little i understood she killed the orignial brain and made an identical one using the beta element? Not to sure. 3. Why would the BETA recognize a non carbon living being as living over a carbon one even tho they themselves are carbon-based? 4. Why is it even importent that the BETA recognize the 00 unit as living? Isnt the only important thing is that the 00 unit can understand the beta? | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On July 09 2012 08:22 Southlight wrote: You saw the tech they came up with if you read the VN. + Show Spoiler + If it only starts a few months before the VN... what stuff was brand new around that time? If I think of new or experimental stuff I can really only think of that mega sniper rifle that only held for 3 shots (guess that one might have been old anyway but w/e), maybe the F22 Raptor or something like that.. of course the Susano'o but that's part of Alternative IV by then, and was originally from the 80's or something... am I being retarded and missing obvious stuff? Edit: ok the preview at the end of the episode says something about Raptor test pilot, I guess that's it. Oh, and if that Takemikazuchi was Yuuhi, I'm happy. Kept wanting to know who the eishi for it was during the episode. If that was Yuuhi, then maybe that's the same Takemikazuchi Meyia received? Oh well, it's just details xD. Edit: Tabbris keep playing and you'll find out about number 3. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:19 Maxie wrote: + Show Spoiler + If it only starts a few months before the VN... what stuff was brand new around that time? If I think of new or experimental stuff I can really only think of that mega sniper rifle that only held for 3 shots (guess that one might have been old anyway but w/e), maybe the F22 Raptor or something like that.. of course the Susano'o but that's part of Alternative IV by then, and was originally from the 80's or something... am I being retarded and missing obvious stuff? Oh, and if that Takemikazuchi was Yuuhi, I'm happy. Kept wanting to know who the eishi for it was during the episode. If that was Yuuhi, then maybe that's the same Takemikazuchi Meyia received? Oh well, it's just details xD. Edit: Tabbris keep playing and you'll find out about number 3. kk ty. Ya if it is left purposely unexplained then dont tell me ^^ | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:22 Tabbris wrote: kk ty. Ya if it is left purposely unexplained then dont tell me ^^ Forgot to answer number 4... they want to communicate with the BETA, not just one way. As it is, since the BETA don't recognize humans as living beings, they just harvest them with no interest for communication. Spoiler beneath, sorry for placing it here Tabbris but don't read it. MLA: + Show Spoiler + Only silicon based life forms can be alive... excellent alien logic. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:10 Tabbris wrote: Muv luv alternative questions + Show Spoiler + Poor Sumika!! Geez it fucking tragic. Cant say I didnt see that coming but still....just wow seeing her like that. I have a few questions if someone doesnt mind answering. 1.Im not fully sure why Sumika was the best canidate for being unit 00. Why does the beta preserving her brain make her better? 2. What does yuuko mean by saying she killed her? From wut little i understood she killed the orignial brain and made an identical one using the beta element? Not to sure. 3. Why would the BETA recognize a non carbon living being as living over a carbon one even tho they themselves are carbon-based? 4. Why is it even importent that the BETA recognize the 00 unit as living? Isnt the only important thing is that the 00 unit can understand the beta? + Show Spoiler + 1. They mentioned it at some point, but based on Alternative III, Humanity learned that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures, right? The idea behind Sumika is that she was kept "alive" by the BETA, so that maybe they would consider Sumika as the 00 Unit as being "alive" in order to communicate/do the things the 00 Unit does. Its a big gamble, since its mostly just assumptions, since Humanity knows next to nothing about the BETA, but its the best assumptions they can draw based on what they know. 2. Yeah, she killed the original brain, thus "killing her". The 00 Unit is a copy, so technically its not the same. 3. That is one of the mysteries of the BETA you will eventually find out. 4. The important thing is that the 00 Unit can understand the BETA, so you are right about that. However, the BETA recognizing the 00 Unit as living will help out that goal by a whole lot. Bear in mind that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures. Now, lets say some random rock came up to you and started asking you questions. Would you answer? If you don't believe something is alive, then obviously you don't really consider it intelligent, and wouldn't converse with it. Alternative III made use of Russian Espers, and they were able to understand the BETA a little bit, but seeing as how the BETA didn't think they were alive, they weren't able to get any meaningful information from them. Alot of the "science" parts of MLA is kinda bullshit, so don't dwell too much on them. As long as you get the general idea of what they are trying to tell you, you will be fine, but as with 99% of science fiction, if you think hard enough about it long enough, the "fiction" part starts to out-weigh the "science" part. Edit: Oh yeah, for TE, the new stuff they are testing has alot to do with 3rd Generation TSFs, to the best of my knowledge, anyway. 3rd Gen TSFs are like the F-22, the Takemikazuchi, and some Russian/European TSFs that didn't show up in the VN. | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:31 Sentenal wrote: + Show Spoiler + 1. They mentioned it at some point, but based on Alternative III, Humanity learned that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures, right? The idea behind Sumika is that she was kept "alive" by the BETA, so that maybe they would consider Sumika as the 00 Unit as being "alive" in order to communicate/do the things the 00 Unit does. Its a big gamble, since its mostly just assumptions, since Humanity knows next to nothing about the BETA, but its the BETA assumption they can draw based on what they know. 2. Yeah, she killed the original brain, thus "killing her". The 00 Unit is a copy, so technically its not the same. 3. That is one of the mysteries of the BETA you will eventually find out. 4. The important thing is that the 00 Unit can understand the BETA, so you are right about that. However, the BETA recognizing the 00 Unit as living will help out that goal by a whole lot. Bear in mind that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures. Now, lets say some random rock came up to you and started asking you questions. Would you answer? If you don't believe something is alive, then obviously you don't really consider it intelligent, and wouldn't converse with it. Alternative III made use of Russian Espers, and they were able to understand the BETA a little bit, but seeing as how the BETA didn't think they were alive, they weren't able to get any meaningful information from them. Alot of the "science" parts of MLA is kinda bullshit, so don't dwell too much on them. As long as you get the general idea of what they are trying to tell you, you will be fine, but as with 99% of science fiction, if you think hard enough about it long enough, the "fiction" part starts to out-weigh the "science" part. Edit: Oh yeah, for TE, the new stuff they are testing has alot to do with 3rd Generation TSFs, to the best of my knowledge, anyway. 3rd Gen TSFs are like the F-22, the Takemikazuchi, and some Russian/European TSFs that didn't show up in the VN. Hehe, all I know about the F-22 is that they are stupidly fast. Probably too fast for their own good during the testing phase :D | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:31 Sentenal wrote: + Show Spoiler + 1. They mentioned it at some point, but based on Alternative III, Humanity learned that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures, right? The idea behind Sumika is that she was kept "alive" by the BETA, so that maybe they would consider Sumika as the 00 Unit as being "alive" in order to communicate/do the things the 00 Unit does. Its a big gamble, since its mostly just assumptions, since Humanity knows next to nothing about the BETA, but its the best assumptions they can draw based on what they know. 2. Yeah, she killed the original brain, thus "killing her". The 00 Unit is a copy, so technically its not the same. 3. That is one of the mysteries of the BETA you will eventually find out. 4. The important thing is that the 00 Unit can understand the BETA, so you are right about that. However, the BETA recognizing the 00 Unit as living will help out that goal by a whole lot. Bear in mind that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures. Now, lets say some random rock came up to you and started asking you questions. Would you answer? If you don't believe something is alive, then obviously you don't really consider it intelligent, and wouldn't converse with it. Alternative III made use of Russian Espers, and they were able to understand the BETA a little bit, but seeing as how the BETA didn't think they were alive, they weren't able to get any meaningful information from them. Alot of the "science" parts of MLA is kinda bullshit, so don't dwell too much on them. As long as you get the general idea of what they are trying to tell you, you will be fine, but as with 99% of science fiction, if you think hard enough about it long enough, the "fiction" part starts to out-weigh the "science" part. Edit: Oh yeah, for TE, the new stuff they are testing has alot to do with 3rd Generation TSFs, to the best of my knowledge, anyway. 3rd Gen TSFs are like the F-22, the Takemikazuchi, and some Russian/European TSFs that didn't show up in the VN. Ah!! Ty ty for clearing that up. | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:56 Maxie wrote: Recommend me a nice bloody anime I haven't watched. MLA:TE ep2 has awakened my bloodthirst. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/maxie Blue Gender. Probably the closest thing out there to MLA, anime wise. On July 09 2012 09:41 Maxie wrote: Hehe, all I know about the F-22 is that they are stupidly fast. Probably too fast for their own good during the testing phase :D Well, fast, Stealth, etc. The F-22 is the embodiment of "lol America" in Muv-Luv. An Anti-TSF TSF in a war vs the BETA. Not that the F-22 is bad fighting the BETA. | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:58 Sentenal wrote: Blue Gender. Probably the closest thing out there to MLA, anime wise. Well, fast, Stealth, etc. The F-22 is the embodiment of "lol America" in Muv-Luv. An Anti-TSF TSF in a war vs the BETA. Not that the F-22 is bad fighting the BETA. Oh, that might help against my MLA withdrawal too. Nice. And yeah, Americans... always thinking about the post war/BETA world... hm, going to be interesting with the Russian/Jap/American combo of eishi, could lead to interesting political conflicts between them. Speaking of Russian, isn't Russia totally fucked by the BETA? Don't have the hive map in my head, but... that's the feeling I got from looking at the map. Oh, and throwing it in here, just because: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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