Anime Discussion Thread - Page 2175

Well, that was it. I have no clue of how many hours it took me, but now it's over. Now, I have to mention that I haven't played many VN:s before the ML series (a little Fate/Stay Night), so giving out ratings isn't really something I can do - but it's certainly somewhere between 9 and 10. The biggest problem is getting through Extra. Unlimited was also not that great, but it was still enjoyable, and playing MLA without having played those beforehand simply wouldn't have worked, so I'm glad I got through them.

There are a lot of nice characters (I never liked Chizuru even in Unlimited/MLA, but that didn't prevent her and Ayamine from having an epic final moment), and pretty nice interaction between them, and the setting is quite well done, with humans getting royally fucked by the BETA, politics, etc. As I said I haven't played that many VN:s, so I'm still not entirely used to the way a lot of the action is done (can't help but want more anime-ish parts), but it was still pretty good (and the anime-ish parts were reserved for the utterly awesome moments). The OST really does a great job at setting the mood, with everything from sad moments to briefings to Takeru beastmode. Something that really makes the many death scenes that much better. I feel like they were all well done, though Meyia's was the best, imo. I got pretty angry when I saw what happened to Tamase though (or, well, her body)

Some people might complain about the ending, and think that it was a "too happy" ending. Well, while Takeru does get an uber harem, the many sad moments during the game makes up for it - and just because Takeru gets his happy ending, it doesn't mean that the sacrifices that were made were undone. The other world is still fighting the BETA.

That said, I got really happy in the ending when Kasumi showed up. She's so cute, I want a bonus Kasumi route NOW!!

As for flaws with MLA, right now I'll narrow it down to "Oh God tentacles Q.Q".

Starting to wonder what will happen in MLA:TE, since it's supposed to be in Alaska and basically no beta after ep2. Politics? More Alternatives? The timeline compared to MLA, and if what happens in MLA will be mentioned in/affect TE? I wanna know.

If it only starts a few months before the VN... what stuff was brand new around that time? If I think of new or experimental stuff I can really only think of that mega sniper rifle that only held for 3 shots (guess that one might have been old anyway but w/e), maybe the F22 Raptor or something like that.. of course the Susano'o but that's part of Alternative IV by then, and was originally from the 80's or something... am I being retarded and missing obvious stuff?

Oh, and if that Takemikazuchi was Yuuhi, I'm happy. Kept wanting to know who the eishi for it was during the episode. If that was Yuuhi, then maybe that's the same Takemikazuchi Meyia received? Oh well, it's just details xD.

Poor Sumika!! Geez it fucking tragic. Cant say I didnt see that coming but still....just wow seeing her like that. I have a few questions if someone doesnt mind answering.
1.Im not fully sure why Sumika was the best canidate for being unit 00. Why does the beta preserving her brain make her better?
2. What does yuuko mean by saying she killed her? From wut little i understood she killed the orignial brain and made an identical one using the beta element? Not to sure.
3. Why would the BETA recognize a non carbon living being as living over a carbon one even tho they themselves are carbon-based?
4. Why is it even importent that the BETA recognize the 00 unit as living? Isnt the only important thing is that the 00 unit can understand the beta?

1. They mentioned it at some point, but based on Alternative III, Humanity learned that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures, right? The idea behind Sumika is that she was kept "alive" by the BETA, so that maybe they would consider Sumika as the 00 Unit as being "alive" in order to communicate/do the things the 00 Unit does. Its a big gamble, since its mostly just assumptions, since Humanity knows next to nothing about the BETA, but its the BETA assumption they can draw based on what they know.

2. Yeah, she killed the original brain, thus "killing her". The 00 Unit is a copy, so technically its not the same.

3. That is one of the mysteries of the BETA you will eventually find out.

4. The important thing is that the 00 Unit can understand the BETA, so you are right about that. However, the BETA recognizing the 00 Unit as living will help out that goal by a whole lot. Bear in mind that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures. Now, lets say some random rock came up to you and started asking you questions. Would you answer? If you don't believe something is alive, then obviously you don't really consider it intelligent, and wouldn't converse with it. Alternative III made use of Russian Espers, and they were able to understand the BETA a little bit, but seeing as how the BETA didn't think they were alive, they weren't able to get any meaningful information from them.

Alot of the "science" parts of MLA is kinda bullshit, so don't dwell too much on them. As long as you get the general idea of what they are trying to tell you, you will be fine, but as with 99% of science fiction, if you think hard enough about it long enough, the "fiction" part starts to out-weigh the "science" part.

1. They mentioned it at some point, but based on Alternative III, Humanity learned that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures, right? The idea behind Sumika is that she was kept "alive" by the BETA, so that maybe they would consider Sumika as the 00 Unit as being "alive" in order to communicate/do the things the 00 Unit does. Its a big gamble, since its mostly just assumptions, since Humanity knows next to nothing about the BETA, but its the best assumptions they can draw based on what they know.

2. Yeah, she killed the original brain, thus "killing her". The 00 Unit is a copy, so technically its not the same.

3. That is one of the mysteries of the BETA you will eventually find out.

4. The important thing is that the 00 Unit can understand the BETA, so you are right about that. However, the BETA recognizing the 00 Unit as living will help out that goal by a whole lot. Bear in mind that the BETA don't consider Humanity as living creatures. Now, lets say some random rock came up to you and started asking you questions. Would you answer? If you don't believe something is alive, then obviously you don't really consider it intelligent, and wouldn't converse with it. Alternative III made use of Russian Espers, and they were able to understand the BETA a little bit, but seeing as how the BETA didn't think they were alive, they weren't able to get any meaningful information from them.

Alot of the "science" parts of MLA is kinda bullshit, so don't dwell too much on them. As long as you get the general idea of what they are trying to tell you, you will be fine, but as with 99% of science fiction, if you think hard enough about it long enough, the "fiction" part starts to out-weigh the "science" part.