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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
January 21 2010 09:19 GMT
#3921
On January 20 2010 12:38 Mystlord wrote:


I know this is off topic, but does anyone know what the name of the song in that video is?

On topic: Last season's anime was pretty bad for me. I tried a lot of them out, I barely ended up finishing any of them. I looked up some animes mentioned recently in this thread, and Boogiepop phantom/genkutsuo are two that i haven't seen and sound pretty cool; definitely going to go try them out.

I agree with minami-ke season 1 being hilarious. The characters are great and it's a good anime to watch if you just want to enjoy yourself.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 21 2010 10:06 GMT
#3922
So I've been looking up some more, and saw something called Zero no Tsukihima. How is it? Is it comparable in quality to Toradora?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 21 2010 10:19 GMT
#3923
... Except I can't find any youtube episode 1 for Zero no Tsukihima. Where do you guys watch the episodes elsewhere?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 21 2010 10:28 GMT
#3924
It's worse as in you don't really care about any of the characters or the story and are pretty much watching it for the boy girl situations + fanservice. It's not very well written is what I'm saying. I particularly think Toradora wasn't super amazing either. I did while I was watching it. But I enjoyed Toradora more because the main relationship was more developed and interesting to follow for a good portion of the show.

It's kind of cute to watch and fun at times but have no higher expectations than what you see in the first episode or two. If you enjoyed those episodes, continue watching.
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Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 10:33:44
January 21 2010 10:31 GMT
#3925
Zero no Tsukaima. Imo, it's a lot of fun and really hilariously over the top. It's basically the normal cliche harem/romance/comedy done well, with the queen of tsundere voicing the tsundere. Compared with Toradora it doesn't have anywhere near the amount of complicated drama and is just kind of mindless fun.

Also, I use this site a lot: + Show Spoiler +
www.kumby.com
It has many animes that other sites can't get, but beware of the suspicious pop ups and ads. As long as you're smart about it, there won't be any spyware creeping onto your computer.

edit: Testie is pretty much right on the ball, and don't watch season 3 (it's mostly stupid)
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 21 2010 10:52 GMT
#3926
Possibly offensive question incoming: Is Strawberry Panic's pace like this throughout the entire anime? Or does it start picking up and getting interesting or exciting? After four episodes I considered staring at my feet and wiggling my toes for something more entertaining. The OP got me all pumped up for the show too.

This like Aria where apparently you should watch it after a hard days work and just need to relax? ;p
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
January 21 2010 12:40 GMT
#3927
On January 21 2010 15:44 FragKrag wrote:
Almost done with Lain (2 more eps!) and I still have very little grasp of what is going on T_T.

Also starting Berserk today; hopefully it's good :D


I didn't understand very much of lain while watching it the first time. However, the second time things became very clear and I didn't have any problem grasping the whole concept and thinking. Suggest you give it a try in a few years when you're a bit older!

I think you'll like Berserk though, it's pretty raw with lots of action and good atmosphere.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 21 2010 13:23 GMT
#3928
Ah, thanks. Because I couldn't find episode 1 of Zero, I'm currently staying up all night watching Shakugan no Shana right now.

Holy crap the drawing degenerates into something really terrible starting around episode 9...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Damian
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany335 Posts
January 21 2010 14:26 GMT
#3929
Is there a fourth season of Zero No Tsukaima ? 8[
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 14:56:31
January 21 2010 14:55 GMT
#3930
On January 21 2010 18:19 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 12:38 Mystlord wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_A5CzZb_GA


I know this is off topic, but does anyone know what the name of the song in that video is?

On topic: Last season's anime was pretty bad for me. I tried a lot of them out, I barely ended up finishing any of them. I looked up some animes mentioned recently in this thread, and Boogiepop phantom/genkutsuo are two that i haven't seen and sound pretty cool; definitely going to go try them out.

I agree with minami-ke season 1 being hilarious. The characters are great and it's a good anime to watch if you just want to enjoy yourself.

Kiseki by Uemura Kana, maxi single from 2005.

On January 21 2010 15:57 Mystlord wrote:
Ecael: Haha don't confuse the Light Novels with the Anime. It was much more mindless on screen I bet. There weren't obscure references at all. It was full of just animated cut-in scenes.

FragKrag: I doubt those final two episodes will help elucidate your understanding if you didn't get any others. And Berserk is good for the action (unless I'm confusing Berserk with some other anime).

orgolove: Clannad, Kanon 2006. Similar to Toradora but with more drama.

Not quite confusing the two, just saying that even the anime preserved the conversation aspect to a certain extent, it just went about it much more visually.

On January 21 2010 23:26 Damian wrote:
Is there a fourth season of Zero No Tsukaima ? 8[

Not yet, but we'll see one eventually I bet.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 16:34:15
January 21 2010 16:26 GMT
#3931
I didn't understand very much of lain while watching it the first time. However, the second time things became very clear and I didn't have any problem grasping the whole concept and thinking. Suggest you give it a try in a few years when you're a bit older!

Lain is a show where a rewatch is almost required -- as Shauni says, it makes wayy more sense the second (or third... or fourth...) time.

That said Shauni, what is "the whole concept and thinking"? I never identified one unified concept but rather a set of themes and such, so I'd be interested to hear your interpretation.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 21 2010 22:29 GMT
#3932
Ecael: It still felt really over the top, but that might just be me and I can't make any real judgments considering that I haven't read the light novels.

On January 22 2010 01:26 triangle wrote:
Show nested quote +
I didn't understand very much of lain while watching it the first time. However, the second time things became very clear and I didn't have any problem grasping the whole concept and thinking. Suggest you give it a try in a few years when you're a bit older!

Lain is a show where a rewatch is almost required -- as Shauni says, it makes wayy more sense the second (or third... or fourth...) time.

That said Shauni, what is "the whole concept and thinking"? I never identified one unified concept but rather a set of themes and such, so I'd be interested to hear your interpretation.

I think what he meant was grasping the concept of Lain, and then thinking about it. That said, here's my take on it:

I would agree that there is no "one theme" in Lain. It's impossible to characterize it as touching on any one subject because it talks about so many. Obviously though, the main starting point when talking about Lain should be the main character, which I'll put into spoilers.

+ Show Spoiler +

I think the first question that begs to be asked is: What is Lain? The series never really gives us a satisfactory answer to this, but we do know that at the very least, she transcends the "Real World". To me, Lain represents the border between the two extremes of thinking that are shown in Lain:

1. The Wired is more "realistic" than the Real World.
2. The Real World is more "realistic" than the Wired.

Lain herself ends up equivocating between the two, until we finally see the fracturing of her personality. However, I think her one major realization throughout the series is that neither of those world views is correct, because each has its faults. Instead, I think it's fairly clear by the end of the show that it's a basic human connection that Lain accepts as "reality".


I find it funny that I came to kind of the same conclusion as I came to with Haibane Renmei, but it's honestly what I see . You kind of see the same theme in Evangelion as well, but that's whole different discussion.
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Rufio
Profile Joined December 2009
241 Posts
January 21 2010 22:41 GMT
#3933
I'm craving for some Steampunk again after reading Mortal Engines. Can anyone help me with a good list of favorites of the genre? I've probably seen most of them already but recommendations are still welcome. Thanks.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 21 2010 23:37 GMT
#3934
On January 21 2010 15:44 FragKrag wrote:
Almost done with Lain (2 more eps!) and I still have very little grasp of what is going on T_T.

Also starting Berserk today; hopefully it's good :D

Berserk is good, but the ending makes you want to kill yourself. Its one of those endings that basically say "lolol go read the manga"
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
January 22 2010 02:01 GMT
#3935
On January 22 2010 08:37 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 15:44 FragKrag wrote:
Almost done with Lain (2 more eps!) and I still have very little grasp of what is going on T_T.

Also starting Berserk today; hopefully it's good :D

Berserk is good, but the ending makes you want to kill yourself. Its one of those endings that basically say "lolol go read the manga"


+ Show Spoiler +
Ahh the manga nerds. What are you talking about, the ending was perfect with all the tentaclerape and hopelessness in the abyss.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 22 2010 02:35 GMT
#3936
On January 21 2010 19:52 MYM.Testie wrote:
Possibly offensive question incoming: Is Strawberry Panic's pace like this throughout the entire anime? Or does it start picking up and getting interesting or exciting? After four episodes I considered staring at my feet and wiggling my toes for something more entertaining. The OP got me all pumped up for the show too.

This like Aria where apparently you should watch it after a hard days work and just need to relax? ;p


What do you mean by 'pace'? StoPani is a pretty low-quality yuri fanservice show, it's best to treat it like one. Occasionally there are 'drama' episodes, but most of them are just about Nagisa wandering around the houses, Tamao being a creepy stalker, Shizuma being emo/stoic as always, etc, and sometimes the episode detours over to the other two houses to follow Hikari around.

Really, StoPani is so in-your-face I'm not sure what you mean by 'slow pace'. Do you mean you thought people would hook up faster? The drama does pick up later on, but I wouldn't get your hopes up for it to turn into a good show or anything.
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
January 22 2010 02:38 GMT
#3937
On January 22 2010 11:01 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 08:37 Sentenal wrote:
On January 21 2010 15:44 FragKrag wrote:
Almost done with Lain (2 more eps!) and I still have very little grasp of what is going on T_T.

Also starting Berserk today; hopefully it's good :D

Berserk is good, but the ending makes you want to kill yourself. Its one of those endings that basically say "lolol go read the manga"


+ Show Spoiler +
Ahh the manga nerds. What are you talking about, the ending was perfect with all the tentaclerape and hopelessness in the abyss.

The anime is like 1/4 the manga. Guts hasn't even gotten the berserker armor...
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
January 22 2010 02:39 GMT
#3938
On January 22 2010 11:01 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 08:37 Sentenal wrote:
On January 21 2010 15:44 FragKrag wrote:
Almost done with Lain (2 more eps!) and I still have very little grasp of what is going on T_T.

Also starting Berserk today; hopefully it's good :D

Berserk is good, but the ending makes you want to kill yourself. Its one of those endings that basically say "lolol go read the manga"


+ Show Spoiler +
Ahh the manga nerds. What are you talking about, the ending was perfect with all the tentaclerape and hopelessness in the abyss.


are you kidding? That ending said... " We didnt finsih this shit but if u want more go read manga" like he said lol
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 02:48:51
January 22 2010 02:42 GMT
#3939
On January 21 2010 19:52 MYM.Testie wrote:
Possibly offensive question incoming: Is Strawberry Panic's pace like this throughout the entire anime? Or does it start picking up and getting interesting or exciting? After four episodes I considered staring at my feet and wiggling my toes for something more entertaining. The OP got me all pumped up for the show too.

This like Aria where apparently you should watch it after a hard days work and just need to relax? ;p


Theres plenty of drama once shizuma starts to make her move, i guess the second half of the season >>> first half

Its very in your face and its supposed to make fun of the genre a bit but i really enjoyed it so nothing bad there lol
Also the series is very well planned out so you easily get hooked on the drama and it is kinda silly but very satisfying

Since the relationships were fan decided you can see how awkward nagisa x shizuma is lol

edit: also what do you class as "high quality" yuri anime? I mean, theres marimite (which is shoujo) and...? Strawberry panic is pretty good ihmo because there isnt really much yuri anime out there of particular note that is as famous

edit: WTF did they do to that poor girl at the end of ep 3 of bund?!?!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
January 22 2010 02:59 GMT
#3940
hm, well I'm fine with unsatisfactory endings so Berserk seems like it would be fine. I wish more animes would be able to end a bit better, even if they are to promote the manga. I mean Ga-Rei: Zero was just a prequel, but it still had a satisfying ending T_T
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