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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
January 07 2012 07:08 GMT
#35061
Just saw Usagi Drop, and I was very impressed. One of my new favourite animes now.
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EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
January 07 2012 07:13 GMT
#35062
On January 07 2012 16:08 salle wrote:
Just saw Usagi Drop, and I was very impressed. One of my new favourite animes now.


It will stay that way so long as you don't read the manga. (Don't do it, it continues where it left off...but its not worth it, no way, no hell.)
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 07 2012 07:13 GMT
#35063
How about watch that clip again and count how much of that scene is just focused on the breasts. They are TRYING to put your focus on that.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
January 07 2012 07:16 GMT
#35064
On January 07 2012 16:13 EMIYA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:08 salle wrote:
Just saw Usagi Drop, and I was very impressed. One of my new favourite animes now.


It will stay that way so long as you don't read the manga. (Don't do it, it continues where it left off...but its not worth it, no way, no hell.)


Usagi Drop manga isn't that bad. It's very weird and unexpected, but not that bad.
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
PedroBlanco
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada65 Posts
January 07 2012 07:20 GMT
#35065
Watch Yu Yu Hakusho.
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
January 07 2012 07:21 GMT
#35066
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 07 2012 16:03 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 15:51 EMIYA wrote:
Calm yourself.

It isn't truly dark, nor was it too gritty. Was I scared when he was carrying a loli while balancing on a brick wall between a sea of zombies because he could lose his balance and be eaten alive?

No. Because she had to pee and gave him a golden shower. <--- This is just one example of what I am talking about.

Maybe you could convince be otherwise if it had not been constrained within it's 12 episode format (no suprise seeing as it is pretty damn similar to the source material).

I was not using shounen in a negative connontaton, which you would recognize if you even knew where I was coming from-- and clearly you didn't because you needed me to spell out what made it similar to a shounen anime/manga. However, it does indeed NEGATIVELY affect it as a horror/pyschological type of anime, which anyone could tell you is what it was not inteded to go for in the first place.

You consider the girl having to pee there fanservice? ...Anyway, so what? Point? How does that change the fact that he was carrying a loli while balancing on a brick wall between a sea of zombies because he could lose his balance and be eaten alive? Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't change shit.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 15:54 tonight wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:50 Sentenal wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:46 tonight wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:41 Sentenal wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:38 tonight wrote:
The fan service takes away from any serious implications the show could possibly have because it is so over the top and obnoxious

How does that work? The serious implications are still there. Fanservice doesn't magically make other stuff disappear.


Yeah, I can take this scene pretty serious despite what the serious implications are.


Its an action scene where they are killing zombies. Even without the fanservice that scene wouldn't have been anything more than... killing zombies. What sort of serious implications is that scene taking away?


Yes, it's killing zombies, but it's not focused on that at all. It is clearly focused on the goddamn T&A which completely removes you from the scene and what's actually happening in the scene. The implications are that they are fighting to stay alive. That they are cornered and for all intents and purposes they look like they're going to be killed, but instead the part of that scene that sticks out more than anything else to anyone is that... the tits shaking all over the place and a goddamn magic bullet that can split the pair.


ps - the show was dumb, but I enjoyed it for what it was

I don't know about you, but the presence of fan service doesn't make me lose focus on the overall picture. The fanservice is blatantly obvious, yeah, no one can deny that, nor am I trying to say that it wasn't. But what I'm trying to say is that just because its there, it doesn't erase anything else thats going on.

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On January 07 2012 15:59 EMIYA wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:50 Sentenal wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:46 tonight wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:41 Sentenal wrote:
On January 07 2012 15:38 tonight wrote:
The fan service takes away from any serious implications the show could possibly have because it is so over the top and obnoxious

How does that work? The serious implications are still there. Fanservice doesn't magically make other stuff disappear.


Yeah, I can take this scene pretty serious despite what the serious implications are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNtlMjRqfQs&oref=http

Its an action scene where they are killing zombies. Even without the fanservice that scene wouldn't have been anything more than... killing zombies. What sort of serious implications is that scene taking away?


Ahahaha.

How about the fact that the viewer is supposed to be suspended in disbelief over whether or not the characters will surive the battle or not?

Not about how tits can move faster than the speed of sound, and not rip one's chest apart over the displacement of such force over the body.

Not about how you need to fire a gun off some girls tits, which is in turn making her aroused and embarassed.

I don't know, were so many things wrong with that scene it does not even need to be explained further.

What serious implications is it taking away? Seriously, what the hell does any of that have to do with anything? You already suspend disbelieve because its a fucking zombie anime. And you can't do any more than that? Take away the fanservice, and they are killing zombies. Leave the fan service in, they are killing zombies, except with lots of tits and ass shots. Changes nothing.



..yep, that scene is indeed fanservice. Anything and everything is sexualized in anime/manga even more so for HoTD when you take into account the Sato duos track record (they previously have only drawn and written explicit content) Obviously you haven't gotten that far down the rabbit hole.

This isn't a matter of concentration from the viewer, for example, because of such aforementioend scene I almost immediately know he will not fall off and die in the next remaining minutes of the episode. Any tension you had was immediately lost in favor of going 'he he' or 'thats hot'. We've already beaten the dead horse to death, and the horse's name is atmosphere.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 07:24:19
January 07 2012 07:22 GMT
#35067
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
January 07 2012 07:22 GMT
#35068
On January 07 2012 16:16 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:13 EMIYA wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:08 salle wrote:
Just saw Usagi Drop, and I was very impressed. One of my new favourite animes now.


It will stay that way so long as you don't read the manga. (Don't do it, it continues where it left off...but its not worth it, no way, no hell.)


Usagi Drop manga isn't that bad. It's very weird and unexpected, but not that bad.


Haha, well its a bit of an exaggeration, but you'll get my point if what you were expecting was a story about life and family, similar to something like Clannad After Story, and instead you get a very predictable and akward shoujo love-triangle-thing.
bubO
Profile Joined August 2010
United States367 Posts
January 07 2012 07:23 GMT
#35069
well.... i liked High school dxd :c don't really care about the fan service really but i got to say it is way over top.
Protoss...
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 07:34:29
January 07 2012 07:31 GMT
#35070
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...


Tsundere Sent sounds so gross.

On January 07 2012 16:23 bubO wrote:
well.... i liked High school dxd :c don't really care about the fan service really but i got to say it is way over top.


There was nothing in DxD that I could like. The animation was a little poor, and the fanservice was just wtf? They focus on a girl for two seconds and show her boobs bounce. Okay... Thanks for that?...
Skol
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
January 07 2012 07:31 GMT
#35071
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...


lol #tsundere

I can't believe we just spent the last 3 pages talking about HSotD and fanservice. :S
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 07 2012 07:34 GMT
#35072
On January 07 2012 16:31 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...


lol #tsundere

I can't believe we just spent the last 3 pages talking about HSotD and fanservice. :S

Highschool of the Dead is serious business.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 07 2012 07:34 GMT
#35073
On January 07 2012 16:31 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...


lol #tsundere

I can't believe we just spent the last 3 pages talking about HSotD and fanservice. :S


It was awesome
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
January 07 2012 07:35 GMT
#35074
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...

no way. I had the exact same argument with him awhile ago and although we made peace, I didn't get any tsundere apology. Guess he was just still in tsuntsun mode.

hoping Ayatsuji arc gets 3+ episodes. screen time should be proportional to awesomeness.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 07 2012 07:54 GMT
#35075
On January 07 2012 16:35 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...

no way. I had the exact same argument with him awhile ago and although we made peace, I didn't get any tsundere apology. Guess he was just still in tsuntsun mode.

hoping Ayatsuji arc gets 3+ episodes. screen time should be proportional to awesomeness.

Your 'Guide to Anime Music' blog didn't talk about JAM Project or Yoko Kanno.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 09:35:55
January 07 2012 09:06 GMT
#35076
soo Zero No Tsukaima next (again) ?


loosely based on the last 3 pages of HOTD.. ZnT is awesome because its easy to ignore fan service and if you can do that well you already got half your shit down. Also its dark and gritty because the master is a depraved loli superbitch who mistreats her poor slave and chronicles Sato? Saito's? trials and tribulations as an almost unconditionally loving servant who would do anything for her.


Go.... !!!

Seems like a leanish season. Ill maybe check out Another but mostly just pick up some random stuff I planned to watch and forgot about.

On January 07 2012 16:16 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:13 EMIYA wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:08 salle wrote:
Just saw Usagi Drop, and I was very impressed. One of my new favourite animes now.


It will stay that way so long as you don't read the manga. (Don't do it, it continues where it left off...but its not worth it, no way, no hell.)


Usagi Drop manga isn't that bad. It's very weird and unexpected, but not that bad.


No it was pretty bad, the teen angst among other things was overdone and well

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94273&currentpage=1423#28454



edit- it really shouldve had Yoko Kanno KH

Necrophantasia
Profile Joined May 2010
Japan299 Posts
January 07 2012 10:12 GMT
#35077
On January 07 2012 16:54 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...

no way. I had the exact same argument with him awhile ago and although we made peace, I didn't get any tsundere apology. Guess he was just still in tsuntsun mode.

hoping Ayatsuji arc gets 3+ episodes. screen time should be proportional to awesomeness.

Your 'Guide to Anime Music' blog didn't talk about JAM Project or Yoko Kanno.


To be fair his guide was about artists and not composers. It makes sense why yoko Kanno is not in.

Also, I must be the only person in the world who doesn't like JAM project.

Nyanfes final this weekend!!! May'n and Nakajima LIVE yeah!!!!!! I finally get to attend a Macross concert.

TIL nana mizuki is 31. How is she only now reaching the peak of her popularity.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
January 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#35078
On January 07 2012 19:12 Necrophantasia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:54 Sentenal wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...

no way. I had the exact same argument with him awhile ago and although we made peace, I didn't get any tsundere apology. Guess he was just still in tsuntsun mode.

hoping Ayatsuji arc gets 3+ episodes. screen time should be proportional to awesomeness.

Your 'Guide to Anime Music' blog didn't talk about JAM Project or Yoko Kanno.


To be fair his guide was about artists and not composers. It makes sense why yoko Kanno is not in.

Also, I must be the only person in the world who doesn't like JAM project.


It had Kajiura ?

I havent heard much JAM project but Im not a fan either.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 11:06:49
January 07 2012 10:57 GMT
#35079
On January 07 2012 19:12 Necrophantasia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:54 Sentenal wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:35 KazeHydra wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:22 tonight wrote:
Time to kill the convo. Sent and I made peace and will move on because it's pointless and I love him for being the biggest tsundere in the thread ~~~


<Sentenal> i-im not making peace because i like you, dont misunderstand... baka...

no way. I had the exact same argument with him awhile ago and although we made peace, I didn't get any tsundere apology. Guess he was just still in tsuntsun mode.

hoping Ayatsuji arc gets 3+ episodes. screen time should be proportional to awesomeness.

Your 'Guide to Anime Music' blog didn't talk about JAM Project or Yoko Kanno.


To be fair his guide was about artists and not composers. It makes sense why yoko Kanno is not in.

Also, I must be the only person in the world who doesn't like JAM project.

Nyanfes final this weekend!!! May'n and Nakajima LIVE yeah!!!!!! I finally get to attend a Macross concert.

TIL nana mizuki is 31. How is she only now reaching the peak of her popularity.

I dunno how someone is able to not like JAM Project, but whatever, different taste and all that. But, uhhh, if you are really going to tell me that his guide didn't talk about composers, maybe you should go re-read it. In particular, the part where he talks about composers. And makes no mention of Yoko Kanno.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
January 07 2012 11:41 GMT
#35080
On January 07 2012 16:22 EMIYA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 16:16 NationInArms wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:13 EMIYA wrote:
On January 07 2012 16:08 salle wrote:
Just saw Usagi Drop, and I was very impressed. One of my new favourite animes now.


It will stay that way so long as you don't read the manga. (Don't do it, it continues where it left off...but its not worth it, no way, no hell.)


Usagi Drop manga isn't that bad. It's very weird and unexpected, but not that bad.


Haha, well its a bit of an exaggeration, but you'll get my point if what you were expecting was a story about life and family, similar to something like Clannad After Story, and instead you get a very predictable and akward shoujo love-triangle-thing.

Hmm I guess that's one of the difficulties in making a good "slice of life" style story, there's really hard to find a good end or resolution to the story. Oh well, guess I won't look for the manga then.
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