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BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
October 15 2011 11:34 GMT
#30141
maybe you wanna follow Mirai Nikki this season. Real romance right there.
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
October 15 2011 11:37 GMT
#30142
school days
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 15 2011 11:38 GMT
#30143
we are just a bunch of yandere fans aren't we lol
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 15 2011 11:40 GMT
#30144
On October 15 2011 13:20 Sentenal wrote:
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On October 15 2011 12:37 EchOne wrote:
On October 15 2011 11:43 Sentenal wrote:
On October 15 2011 11:32 EchOne wrote:
I watched this GC out of curiosity and I must say... Sentenal I don't think you're justified in comparing this GC boy to Amuro. Gundam E1 showed that Amuro is smart, resourceful, proactive, and doesn't give a fuck about evacuation orders, hiding in shelters, or military regulations. GC E1 showed that Shu is awkward, cowardly, and reacts first to a strange girl getting arrested in front of him by telling himself "I wanted to touch her."

On another note I finished 08th MS Team and it was quite good. My only criticisms were the spontaneity of Shiro and Aina's romance, and the relative disconnectedness of E12 (which on its own was rather cute.) Both understandable, since the show was not a romance, and was originally 11 episodes. The fights were basically all great, especially the final one against Norris ("This one's an Ace!"). The characters were also effective, and the war situations generally well written.

Amuro was a little bitch for like 25 episodes of Gundam, and then he was a little bitch again when he showed up in Zeta. I mean, Amuro got salty that Bright slapped him, and that he had to fight, stole the Gundam to run around the desert in an Emo adventure, single handedly made the Battle of Odessa even harder for the Federation, and then expected the White Base to welcome him back with open arms? The dude in GC is an Amuro. Amuro invented an character archetype that TONS of anime MC fall into. Even Shinji in Evangelion is based on Amuro.

I still don't see how this is comparable. Amuro definitely has fits in the first part of his first show, but he always manifests it assertively. Insubordination and desertion are stupid, but they take more balls than constant whining and self-pity. In Zeta he refuses to fight for all of 2 or 3 episodes then promptly does some crazy civilian aircraft ram attack shit. And now he's the inspiration for Shinji, who's actually a pussy at all times and essentially has no assertiveness at all?

Refusal to fight should also be separated from being too scared to fight. Amuro's insubordination always involved fighting in ways that disobeyed orders so the only times he could possibly have been scared, and thus a pussy, were his one desertion in 79 and his few episodes of house arrest in Zeta. So somehow Amuro possibly manifesting fear for 5 or so episodes out of a much longer career causes him to be the archetype for impotent, cowardly protagonists? I'm not persuaded. If anything, much of his insubordination in 79 resulted in him being cocky and overconfident in his piloting abilities. Confidence and Shinji don't belong in the same sentence.

And of course there's zero comparison on a first episode basis. Amuro opens his career with 0% bitch, while Shu's only defining features are his weaknesses.

Anyways Shu is definitely archetypical. Everyone has seen the cliches. I have my doubts that they originated with Amuro.

Dude, I can't understand how you can argue this. Amuro invented the type of "unwilling emo teenager thrown into war, who matures over the course of the series". The last part is certainly up in the air since we have only seen episode 1, but it is definitely a safe bet that will happen. There just isn't any arguing that he is the basis for other characters like Shinji, Kira, Banana G, Renton, etc, and now this dude in GC. Yeah, they all have their differences. Thats what makes them different characters. And in Shinji's case, the goal of Eva was to be a "deconstruction", and therefore Amuro got deconstructed. That was Shinji's entire point.

Honestly when talking about mecha archetypes of MCs, its not like he is even close to the other "main" types. He isn't anything like Kabuto Kouji. He isn't anything like Nagare Ryoma. He isn't like Kamille. He isn't like Judau. He isn't like Heero. He isn't like Noriko. Can you honestly say he is more like any of those characters, than he is like Amuro in early 0079?


That's exactly what I see in Amuro.

That's partially why I didn't drop Gundam out of complete hate of Amuro: it's that it was understandable why he was acting like a total panzy.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9590 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 11:47:57
October 15 2011 11:42 GMT
#30145
Newer gundams need more corporal punishment. Like slapping histeric bitches and hitting emo teenagers.

Although I think FFFpeeps are doing a great job with subbing, I had to choose underwater over them :<
Ika is all about the squiddly puns in the phrases and sadly FFFpeeps have only dry text T.T

Although I did prefer the FFFpeeps episode name translations like "Won't you invade?" instead of the "Who's up for a squid-vasion?" =(
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 15 2011 11:44 GMT
#30146
On October 15 2011 20:42 Latham wrote:
Newer gundams need more corporal punishment. Like slapping histeric bitches and hitting emo teenagers.


That is why Bright is best character in all of Gundam (thus far).

I need to finish it. -.-
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
October 15 2011 11:51 GMT
#30147
I also recommend school days
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 15 2011 11:53 GMT
#30148
On October 15 2011 20:51 Gao Xi wrote:
I also recommend school days

for Sekai
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13085 Posts
October 15 2011 12:05 GMT
#30149
On October 15 2011 20:13 ForeverAzerG wrote:
any recomendations for some good interresting 17+ anime preferably with quite a bit of violence and romance ^_^


Kara no Kyoukai. Its a bunch of movies tho.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 15 2011 12:19 GMT
#30150
On October 15 2011 21:05 SkelA wrote:
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On October 15 2011 20:13 ForeverAzerG wrote:
any recomendations for some good interresting 17+ anime preferably with quite a bit of violence and romance ^_^


Kara no Kyoukai. Its a bunch of movies tho.


I think he was asking for a bit of violence and romance.....not a bit of romance and violence. xD

But Kara no Kyoukai is good, so watch that too anyway.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 15 2011 12:21 GMT
#30151
On October 15 2011 20:13 ForeverAzerG wrote:
any recomendations for some good interresting 17+ anime preferably with quite a bit of violence and romance ^_^

Zero no Tsukaima, supposedly romance but just with a lot of violence
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 12:45:28
October 15 2011 12:45 GMT
#30152
On October 15 2011 21:21 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 20:13 ForeverAzerG wrote:
any recomendations for some good interresting 17+ anime preferably with quite a bit of violence and romance ^_^

Zero no Tsukaima, supposedly romance but just with a lot of violence


Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit*

I should watch that some day. >.>
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 15 2011 12:45 GMT
#30153
On October 15 2011 21:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 21:21 Blasterion wrote:
On October 15 2011 20:13 ForeverAzerG wrote:
any recomendations for some good interresting 17+ anime preferably with quite a bit of violence and romance ^_^

Zero no Tsukaima, supposedly romance but just with a lot of violence


Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit*

if by hit you mean explosion lol
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 15 2011 15:45 GMT
#30154
On October 15 2011 20:38 Blasterion wrote:
we are just a bunch of yandere fans aren't we lol

Everyone loves Yanderes. It's just if you're willing to admit it.

On October 15 2011 21:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 21:21 Blasterion wrote:
On October 15 2011 20:13 ForeverAzerG wrote:
any recomendations for some good interresting 17+ anime preferably with quite a bit of violence and romance ^_^

Zero no Tsukaima, supposedly romance but just with a lot of violence


Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit*

I should watch that some day. >.>

You might lose some brain cells, but it's mildly amusing in its own way. Minus the fanservice, it's actually not too bad.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 15:50:43
October 15 2011 15:50 GMT
#30155
On October 16 2011 00:45 MoonBear wrote:
You might lose some brain cells, but it's mildly amusing in its own way. Minus the fanservice, it's actually not too bad.


you know its not to bad losing those brain cells either since those were the ones that contain memories of ZnT, that having been said it forces me to run through it again quickly to watch season 4.
Sereal
Profile Joined September 2011
94 Posts
October 15 2011 16:07 GMT
#30156
On October 15 2011 21:45 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 21:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 15 2011 21:21 Blasterion wrote:
On October 15 2011 20:13 ForeverAzerG wrote:
any recomendations for some good interresting 17+ anime preferably with quite a bit of violence and romance ^_^

Zero no Tsukaima, supposedly romance but just with a lot of violence


Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit* Baka! *hit*

if by hit you mean explosion lol


I watched the first 5 or 6 episodes, the violence is nothing like Kara no Kyoukai. It's like Pokemon violence. Stuff goes boom, but shortage of blood and gore. If anything, it's just an anime featuring an unfortunate tsundere.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 16:23:44
October 15 2011 16:23 GMT
#30157
Actually asking in this thread for recommendations instead of just looking at the mod note for that list is only going to yield you troll suggestions.

On October 15 2011 20:38 Blasterion wrote:
we are just a bunch of yandere fans aren't we lol

What else can one be a fan of.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
October 15 2011 16:59 GMT
#30158
hai gaiz, i watch school days and it was purty good. r der anymore good anime like it?

WHAT NOW?
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
October 15 2011 17:06 GMT
#30159
u could watch sailor moon if u like school days
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Jenovah
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia28 Posts
October 15 2011 17:53 GMT
#30160
I'm very impressed with Type-Moon, i've always been a fan of Fate series and after watching fate/zero... I have to say... it totally out matched other anime... The quality... It's just too good.... It just make most of the other anime look so cheap... =_=...
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