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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 31 2009 13:52 GMT
#2041
On July 31 2009 05:27 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 05:10 King K. Rool wrote:
On July 31 2009 04:34 Ecael wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:46 Zozma wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Umineko episode 5] +
Damn, they took out all of my favorite parts from the tea party scenes.

+ Show Spoiler [game] +
Nothing matters until the episode 2 tea party nippa


On July 31 2009 02:14 King K. Rool wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight.
? Aren't they already doing that? I mean sure fine, if they have more episodes to make up for this stuff I'll be less peeved, but srsly. It's really disappointing to wait what, 2 years, just to see the same episode like 4 times.

If they make up for the episode numbers lost then you have no reason to be annoyed at all, less peeved isn't enough. You can complain about a lack of content, but as we see with endless eight, they are only repeating the happenings of the episode. Other factors like voice acting and animation suggest that they are inserting new things instead of reusing the old, the kind of thing one would do if the only goal is to skimp on work. So really the only point you can complain about the series itself would be looking back at the conclusion of this season and evaluate it as a whole. You can certainly complain about how they implemented Endless Eight now, but I don't feel like it gives us any indication on the value of the whole affair.

What? I can be as annoyed as I want about endless eight. I'll still be annoyed at it (less so) even if they make up episodes. I don't really understand your point, especially when you tell me I have no reason to be annoyed if they did make up the episodes (new episodes won't suddenly make Endless Eight better). I don't want to see the same thing over and over again (no I don't give a crap that they're redrawing/animating/w.e). Endless Eight alone isn't Haruhi, so if you think I'm complaining about Haruhi then it's not that. I'm complaining about Endless Eight + Kyoani being trolls.

Except I specified that I was talking about the season and consequently the Haruhi series, the tones in this thread isn't that Endless Eight was stupid, it is that KyoAni has fucked up the series completely.

Though I suppose that puts our complaints to be about different things rather.

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 05:08 PH wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight. If not, then all the complaints are really invalid, they aren't cheating with recycled animations or anything. They just made a really bad decision, probably decided that if they got away with airing order from season 1 they can get away with anything.

Patience, patience.

I think it's worse that every episode is fully and thoroughly produced. That means they think this is a good idea...

Well I can see its point...they tried a bit too hard here :p Plan backfiring on a rather epic scale, in a bad way.


they are fucking up the series completely. If I ever reccomend the series to someone in the future I'll have to be like "Ignore the 8 episodes of total shit in season 2." Its ridculous to think they've got some magical episode 9 or 10 or whatever thats going to make me go oh this season is suddenly good again!

Any way you look at it endless 8 as they did it was one of the most retarded things I've seen a popular anime do and its hurt not only the entire kyoani reputation, but the series as a whole.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 31 2009 20:44 GMT
#2042
On July 31 2009 19:53 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 19:36 PH wrote:
Yet another asking for recommendations post...

But how about some good anime movies? I just realized that some of the best anime I've ever seen were all movies, even though I haven't seen many of them.

I've seen Akira, the Patlabor movies, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, of course the Ghibli movies and shit, and I just saw The Sky Crawlers. I'm DL'ing the original GitS movies (and 2.0).


I haven't seen that many either but namedropping some obvious ones that isn't Ghibli.


5 Centimeters per Second
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Perfect Blue
The Place Promised in Our Early Days
Millennium Actress

On July 31 2009 20:08 Mystlord wrote:
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On July 31 2009 19:36 PH wrote:
Yet another asking for recommendations post...

But how about some good anime movies? I just realized that some of the best anime I've ever seen were all movies, even though I haven't seen many of them.

I've seen Akira, the Patlabor movies, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, of course the Ghibli movies and shit, and I just saw The Sky Crawlers. I'm DL'ing the original GitS movies (and 2.0).

I don't remember any that really jump out that aren't those titles
Except The End of Evangelion, but you've probably seen that too.
Other titles... Grave of the Fireflies and Origin: Spirits of the Past.
For other cyberpunks, you need to watch Spriggan and Metropolis.

On July 31 2009 20:45 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 19:36 PH wrote:
Yet another asking for recommendations post...

But how about some good anime movies? I just realized that some of the best anime I've ever seen were all movies, even though I haven't seen many of them.

I've seen Akira, the Patlabor movies, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, of course the Ghibli movies and shit, and I just saw The Sky Crawlers. I'm DL'ing the original GitS movies (and 2.0).


I watched and enjoyed most of what you mentioned (including GiTS 1 and 2). I would recommend Appleseed and Appleseed 2004 (? - I think it was 2004). The latter was produced later but you should watch it first if you want to watch them in timeline order (not particularly important imo).

5 Centimeters per Second
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Perfect Blue
The Place Promised in Our Early Days
Millennium Actress
Origin: Spirits of the Past
Spriggan
Metropolis
Appleseed
Appleseed 2004 (or whatever it is)

Cool, thanks.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 00:10:19
August 01 2009 00:08 GMT
#2043
I won't say that Disappearance will make you think that Endless Eight was good, I've said myself that it has really gone too far. Was the repetition retarded? Eh, arguable, the very presence of the Disappearance plotline gives a reason to it. Was doing it 8 times retarded? Yes, but they've gotten away with a pretty screwed up airing order in the past, they might have decided that, the hype and the cultism about Haruhi means they can get away with this too. They were wrong, but the mentality isn't that flawed. Like I said, we can look upon this affair much more easily after the season is over, perhaps making arguments like "This repetition caused them to drop content that should have been there" and such. But looking at it without knowing what the future holds and claiming doom is fairly pointless.

Though we've all had our share of moments when we exclaim that MBS will ruin SC2, I suppose this is only natural.

Someone mentioned Nadesico, that was a really good anime in its own way...if we define the anime to mean Ruri and her constant baka baka and the plethora of content they never showed in theatrical or animated release. The parody will be difficult to spot though, in the context of animes from that time it is much more apparent. From recent years, dunno, first time I watched it I never quite felt the parody as much as I did the pain of watching a show held together by one character :p
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 06:57:35
August 02 2009 06:57 GMT
#2044
Yeah, I liked it, but only after thinking about each episode.


Also, I have a Haruhi question, and I apologize if it was discussed before. As someone new to the series, I've watched the first few episodes in Haruhi order, but want to know if that's the best idea. Would it be better to watch it in Kyon order the first time? What about the 2009 episodes?

Yes, I know plenty about Endless Eight.
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genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 07:06:12
August 02 2009 07:04 GMT
#2045
Not sure about season 1 order, but 2009 episodes are in normal order. I suppose if you want to mix it up you can watch Endless Eight backwards.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 02 2009 07:11 GMT
#2046
If what you know isn't from reading (or in other words, you don't know what is going to happen), then that has no particular bearing :p

For season one, I recommend viewing from the broadcasting order, it was done that way as to break up the monotony that would've resulted from airing it in chronological order. With season 2 (or 1+new), I'd suggest following the broadcasting order again, largely because the issue from season one should be more or less solved with the increased content.

About Nadesico, yeah, if you think carefully about all the stuff that were added in you'd fine that it is really a reflection of the kind of things we see up to that point. If we give it the benefit of the doubt (and from reading the light novels, I can't help but feel that's looking at the situation too optimistically), it becomes quite a good parody. One of rather different style from the stuff we see nowadays and with completely different jokes, but parody nonetheless. Without that though, it has little merit on its own except for Ruri. Somehow she became the most fleshed out character of them all, go figure. The way they approached the movie and the game also suggest against the parody idea, though it can't really be denied that's possibly one of the goals.

If nothing else though, baka baka is immortalized.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
August 02 2009 08:03 GMT
#2047
Someone tell me, has Endless Eight ended yet?
POGGERS
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 02 2009 08:06 GMT
#2048
Nope.
Will end in the next episode though.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
August 02 2009 08:15 GMT
#2049
omg 1 more week wtf
POGGERS
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:28 GMT
#2050
On August 02 2009 17:15 konadora wrote:
omg 1 more week wtf

I hear you! OMGOMGOMGOMG!
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
August 02 2009 16:23 GMT
#2051
what's endless eight?
TransfuSe
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada201 Posts
August 02 2009 16:26 GMT
#2052
when does the nanoha movie come out? D:
Hello.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 02 2009 16:28 GMT
#2053
Endless Eight is just a chapter in Haruhi that is the same fucking episode replayed 8 times. It's slightly different each time, but still contains for the most part the exact same fucking content.

So basically, just imagine watching something 8 times from different angles and a slightly different voice track.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
afg-warrior
Profile Joined June 2007
Afghanistan328 Posts
August 02 2009 17:00 GMT
#2054
i didnt bother going through 103 pages to see if it was already posted but has anyone seen "sword of the stranger" ? its a full length anime film. has some crazy animations in the action scenes

[image loading]
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 02 2009 18:53 GMT
#2055
lol fusion showed me this a long time ago when he convinced me to watch lucky star
I still love this clip
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 21:02:29
August 02 2009 20:59 GMT
#2056
haha, I remember that part in Lucky Star. Cracked me up.

On August 03 2009 02:00 afg-warrior wrote:
i didnt bother going through 103 pages to see if it was already posted but has anyone seen "sword of the stranger" ? its a full length anime film. has some crazy animations in the action scenes

[image loading]

Is the movie itself any good?
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afg-warrior
Profile Joined June 2007
Afghanistan328 Posts
August 02 2009 22:28 GMT
#2057
On August 03 2009 05:59 PH wrote:
haha, I remember that part in Lucky Star. Cracked me up.

Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 02:00 afg-warrior wrote:
i didnt bother going through 103 pages to see if it was already posted but has anyone seen "sword of the stranger" ? its a full length anime film. has some crazy animations in the action scenes

[image loading]

Is the movie itself any good?


i say its really good. i have seen it on DVD. liked it a lot
"Yeah fuck multiplayer I'm only in this for the xel'naga" snowdrift86
Stripe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States67 Posts
August 02 2009 22:47 GMT
#2058
Hahaha at the Lucky Star clip. I watched the series in its English dub and it was my favourite anime just behind Haruhi Season 1. I just couldn't get used to the Japanese voices that clip though.... The English voices just sounds more natural to me. Oh well, I guess I have to get used to them for the Lucky Star OVA since Bandai isn't dubbing it...
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
August 02 2009 23:23 GMT
#2059
dubs
vomittttttttttttt
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 02 2009 23:34 GMT
#2060
The only show I prefer to watch dubbed is Samurai Champloo.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
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