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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 30 2009 20:08 GMT
#2021
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight. If not, then all the complaints are really invalid, they aren't cheating with recycled animations or anything. They just made a really bad decision, probably decided that if they got away with airing order from season 1 they can get away with anything.

Patience, patience.

I think it's worse that every episode is fully and thoroughly produced. That means they think this is a good idea...
Hello
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 30 2009 20:10 GMT
#2022
On July 31 2009 04:34 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 02:46 Zozma wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Umineko episode 5] +
Damn, they took out all of my favorite parts from the tea party scenes.

+ Show Spoiler [game] +
Nothing matters until the episode 2 tea party nippa


Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 02:14 King K. Rool wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight.
? Aren't they already doing that? I mean sure fine, if they have more episodes to make up for this stuff I'll be less peeved, but srsly. It's really disappointing to wait what, 2 years, just to see the same episode like 4 times.

If they make up for the episode numbers lost then you have no reason to be annoyed at all, less peeved isn't enough. You can complain about a lack of content, but as we see with endless eight, they are only repeating the happenings of the episode. Other factors like voice acting and animation suggest that they are inserting new things instead of reusing the old, the kind of thing one would do if the only goal is to skimp on work. So really the only point you can complain about the series itself would be looking back at the conclusion of this season and evaluate it as a whole. You can certainly complain about how they implemented Endless Eight now, but I don't feel like it gives us any indication on the value of the whole affair.

What? I can be as annoyed as I want about endless eight. I'll still be annoyed at it (less so) even if they make up episodes. I don't really understand your point, especially when you tell me I have no reason to be annoyed if they did make up the episodes (new episodes won't suddenly make Endless Eight better). I don't want to see the same thing over and over again (no I don't give a crap that they're redrawing/animating/w.e). Endless Eight alone isn't Haruhi, so if you think I'm complaining about Haruhi then it's not that. I'm complaining about Endless Eight + Kyoani being trolls.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-30 20:28:10
July 30 2009 20:27 GMT
#2023
On July 31 2009 05:10 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 04:34 Ecael wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:46 Zozma wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Umineko episode 5] +
Damn, they took out all of my favorite parts from the tea party scenes.

+ Show Spoiler [game] +
Nothing matters until the episode 2 tea party nippa


On July 31 2009 02:14 King K. Rool wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight.
? Aren't they already doing that? I mean sure fine, if they have more episodes to make up for this stuff I'll be less peeved, but srsly. It's really disappointing to wait what, 2 years, just to see the same episode like 4 times.

If they make up for the episode numbers lost then you have no reason to be annoyed at all, less peeved isn't enough. You can complain about a lack of content, but as we see with endless eight, they are only repeating the happenings of the episode. Other factors like voice acting and animation suggest that they are inserting new things instead of reusing the old, the kind of thing one would do if the only goal is to skimp on work. So really the only point you can complain about the series itself would be looking back at the conclusion of this season and evaluate it as a whole. You can certainly complain about how they implemented Endless Eight now, but I don't feel like it gives us any indication on the value of the whole affair.

What? I can be as annoyed as I want about endless eight. I'll still be annoyed at it (less so) even if they make up episodes. I don't really understand your point, especially when you tell me I have no reason to be annoyed if they did make up the episodes (new episodes won't suddenly make Endless Eight better). I don't want to see the same thing over and over again (no I don't give a crap that they're redrawing/animating/w.e). Endless Eight alone isn't Haruhi, so if you think I'm complaining about Haruhi then it's not that. I'm complaining about Endless Eight + Kyoani being trolls.

Except I specified that I was talking about the season and consequently the Haruhi series, the tones in this thread isn't that Endless Eight was stupid, it is that KyoAni has fucked up the series completely.

Though I suppose that puts our complaints to be about different things rather.

On July 31 2009 05:08 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight. If not, then all the complaints are really invalid, they aren't cheating with recycled animations or anything. They just made a really bad decision, probably decided that if they got away with airing order from season 1 they can get away with anything.

Patience, patience.

I think it's worse that every episode is fully and thoroughly produced. That means they think this is a good idea...

Well I can see its point...they tried a bit too hard here :p Plan backfiring on a rather epic scale, in a bad way.
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
July 30 2009 20:29 GMT
#2024
The problem with Endless Eight is that the iterations don't add anything new to the overall plot. There needs to be some sort of justification to go above and beyond the point of where the light novel ended. As of now, I don't see that. It's constantly deja vu and I need to do something to rectify this situation, but there's no progress. It's nothing more than just red herrings and costume changes of the same tired two weeks.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 30 2009 20:30 GMT
#2025
On July 31 2009 05:27 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 05:10 King K. Rool wrote:
On July 31 2009 04:34 Ecael wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:46 Zozma wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Umineko episode 5] +
Damn, they took out all of my favorite parts from the tea party scenes.

+ Show Spoiler [game] +
Nothing matters until the episode 2 tea party nippa


On July 31 2009 02:14 King K. Rool wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight.
? Aren't they already doing that? I mean sure fine, if they have more episodes to make up for this stuff I'll be less peeved, but srsly. It's really disappointing to wait what, 2 years, just to see the same episode like 4 times.

If they make up for the episode numbers lost then you have no reason to be annoyed at all, less peeved isn't enough. You can complain about a lack of content, but as we see with endless eight, they are only repeating the happenings of the episode. Other factors like voice acting and animation suggest that they are inserting new things instead of reusing the old, the kind of thing one would do if the only goal is to skimp on work. So really the only point you can complain about the series itself would be looking back at the conclusion of this season and evaluate it as a whole. You can certainly complain about how they implemented Endless Eight now, but I don't feel like it gives us any indication on the value of the whole affair.

What? I can be as annoyed as I want about endless eight. I'll still be annoyed at it (less so) even if they make up episodes. I don't really understand your point, especially when you tell me I have no reason to be annoyed if they did make up the episodes (new episodes won't suddenly make Endless Eight better). I don't want to see the same thing over and over again (no I don't give a crap that they're redrawing/animating/w.e). Endless Eight alone isn't Haruhi, so if you think I'm complaining about Haruhi then it's not that. I'm complaining about Endless Eight + Kyoani being trolls.

Except I specified that I was talking about the season and consequently the Haruhi series, the tones in this thread isn't that Endless Eight was stupid, it is that KyoAni has fucked up the series completely.

Though I suppose that puts our complaints to be about different things rather.
That's fair. I just wasn't sure exactly what you were saying. Haruhi is fine, the other episodes were fine, it's just the dragging out of Endless Eight that annoys me.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-30 20:37:04
July 30 2009 20:36 GMT
#2026
On July 31 2009 05:29 TealLurker wrote:
The problem with Endless Eight is that the iterations don't add anything new to the overall plot. There needs to be some sort of justification to go above and beyond the point of where the light novel ended. As of now, I don't see that. It's constantly deja vu and I need to do something to rectify this situation, but there's no progress. It's nothing more than just red herrings and costume changes of the same tired two weeks.

Yeah, 8 episodes really hurt. I can understand 2, 4, and maybe even 6, but 8, lol. It has interesting intentions, but the execution really overestimated how much they can get away with.
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
July 30 2009 21:16 GMT
#2027
Three would of probably been the magic number. One being the the start, the second being sort of a WTF moment to fans and the third finishing things off.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 30 2009 21:53 GMT
#2028
On July 28 2009 12:35 Stripe wrote:
For those that are interested:

Fall Anime Chart
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



Fairy Tail and Darker than Black sequel, nice.

Also, has anyone else seen Kara no Kyoukai movie 6, yet?

+ Show Spoiler [XD] +
[image loading]
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 02:01:25
July 31 2009 02:00 GMT
#2029
So I've cut down on the shows I'm watching this season:

When the Seagulls Cry
Canaan
Needless
Kanamemo
Bakemonogatari
Sora no ManiMani

These are the shows worth watching this season. The only show I kind of regret stopping, is Tokyo Magnitude. It's something different for sure and it's a nice watch but it's just a single mom stuck with 2 kids she doesn't know in a disaster with the occasional random acts of horror that happen. Really fucking depressing.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 31 2009 04:28 GMT
#2030
On July 31 2009 05:27 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 05:08 PH wrote:
On July 31 2009 02:09 Ecael wrote:
Why are people complaining so much about Haruhi now? I think we have every right to complain when it ends and we get a result that is them skimping out on other episodes to torment us with Endless Eight. If not, then all the complaints are really invalid, they aren't cheating with recycled animations or anything. They just made a really bad decision, probably decided that if they got away with airing order from season 1 they can get away with anything.

Patience, patience.

I think it's worse that every episode is fully and thoroughly produced. That means they think this is a good idea...

Well I can see its point...they tried a bit too hard here :p Plan backfiring on a rather epic scale, in a bad way.

Well, on the bright side, maybe with so much of season 2 having been allocated to this nonsense, there'll be a season 3 in another five years!
Hello
Fluffy Pingu
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia41 Posts
July 31 2009 08:38 GMT
#2031
Has anyone mentioned Fairy Tail yet?
If no one has, I'm surprised!

That'll be the anime I'm anticipating the most for the Fall season.

I can't wait ^^
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 31 2009 10:36 GMT
#2032
Yet another asking for recommendations post...

But how about some good anime movies? I just realized that some of the best anime I've ever seen were all movies, even though I haven't seen many of them.

I've seen Akira, the Patlabor movies, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, of course the Ghibli movies and shit, and I just saw The Sky Crawlers. I'm DL'ing the original GitS movies (and 2.0).
Hello
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
July 31 2009 10:53 GMT
#2033
On July 31 2009 19:36 PH wrote:
Yet another asking for recommendations post...

But how about some good anime movies? I just realized that some of the best anime I've ever seen were all movies, even though I haven't seen many of them.

I've seen Akira, the Patlabor movies, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, of course the Ghibli movies and shit, and I just saw The Sky Crawlers. I'm DL'ing the original GitS movies (and 2.0).


I haven't seen that many either but namedropping some obvious ones that isn't Ghibli.


5 Centimeters per Second
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Perfect Blue
The Place Promised in Our Early Days
Millennium Actress
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 31 2009 11:08 GMT
#2034
On July 31 2009 19:36 PH wrote:
Yet another asking for recommendations post...

But how about some good anime movies? I just realized that some of the best anime I've ever seen were all movies, even though I haven't seen many of them.

I've seen Akira, the Patlabor movies, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, of course the Ghibli movies and shit, and I just saw The Sky Crawlers. I'm DL'ing the original GitS movies (and 2.0).

I don't remember any that really jump out that aren't those titles
Except The End of Evangelion, but you've probably seen that too.
Other titles... Grave of the Fireflies and Origin: Spirits of the Past.
For other cyberpunks, you need to watch Spriggan and Metropolis.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9049 Posts
July 31 2009 11:10 GMT
#2035
Can anyone recommends me a comedy/parody anime like Hayate no gotoku, Lucky Star etc...
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
July 31 2009 11:28 GMT
#2036
On July 31 2009 20:10 Garnet wrote:
Can anyone recommends me a comedy/parody anime like Hayate no gotoku, Lucky Star etc...

Minami-ke (1st season only I guess)
K-ON!
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
July 31 2009 11:45 GMT
#2037
On July 31 2009 19:36 PH wrote:
Yet another asking for recommendations post...

But how about some good anime movies? I just realized that some of the best anime I've ever seen were all movies, even though I haven't seen many of them.

I've seen Akira, the Patlabor movies, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, of course the Ghibli movies and shit, and I just saw The Sky Crawlers. I'm DL'ing the original GitS movies (and 2.0).


I watched and enjoyed most of what you mentioned (including GiTS 1 and 2). I would recommend Appleseed and Appleseed 2004 (? - I think it was 2004). The latter was produced later but you should watch it first if you want to watch them in timeline order (not particularly important imo).
Complete the cycle!
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
July 31 2009 13:25 GMT
#2038
On July 31 2009 20:10 Garnet wrote:
Can anyone recommends me a comedy/parody anime like Hayate no gotoku, Lucky Star etc...


Martian Successor Nadesico has a lot of comedy/parody elements, but it isn't much like your examples.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 31 2009 13:29 GMT
#2039
On July 31 2009 20:10 Garnet wrote:
Can anyone recommends me a comedy/parody anime like Hayate no gotoku, Lucky Star etc...

Seto no hanayome?

Not really looking forwards to Fairy Tail. I read the manga but it's only average for me, and the show will probably end up like Naruto or Bleach anime.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
July 31 2009 13:49 GMT
#2040

On July 31 2009 20:10 Garnet wrote:
Can anyone recommends me a comedy/parody anime like Hayate no gotoku, Lucky Star etc...


Try Azumanga Daioh
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