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Chro
United States240 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 12 2014 10:51 Chro wrote: Mach vise is fine, it shows how specific devil fruit types are and how a small difference can make all the difference in how they're used. Now if they're dumb at using them thats a completely different issue. How is Vise using his devil fruit any differently than Miss Valentine? They both get really high in the air, turn really heavy, and crush whatever is below them. That's literally all Vise has done, and the only thing Miss Valentine did differently was use her weight to torture a guy by sitting on him. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 12 2014 11:05 Sentenal wrote: How is Vise using his devil fruit any differently than Miss Valentine? They both get really high in the air, turn really heavy, and crush whatever is below them. That's literally all Vise has done, and the only thing Miss Valentine did differently was use her weight to torture a guy by sitting on him. well Vise actually hits his target, thats different ya hes using the fruit in a very similar fasion but hes a minor character just like valentine so who cares? not every single fruit user can get wildly original and creative fruits to use | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 12 2014 11:12 Sentenal wrote: What, am I not allowed to complain about minor characters in a chapter where they were big players? well not for silly reasons, as the series get longer well see less an less characters that are completely unique unless its only going to be Luffy fighting the boss theres nothing wrong with 2 devil fruits being similar | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Or Oda forgot about miss something | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 12 2014 17:51 DarkLordOlli wrote: Miss whatever is dead, Vise has her fruit. Wouldn't be the first revived fruit (ace) Or Oda forgot about miss something No its a different fruit with a different name and (almost certainly from what we've seen) slightly different powers. Oda hasn't forgotten about Miss Valentine, he just made a variation to her and Mr. 5's fruit, and gave them to members of Doflamingo's crew (possibly to draw parallels). Whether he should be doing that is a different issue. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
Any chance it means Zoro cutting, destroying the bird cage?  Maybe? kekeke | ||
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sharkie
Austria18728 Posts
On December 12 2014 21:32 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Zoro ask Giant to take a nap, once he is awaken there is no more bird cage . Any chance it means Zoro cutting, destroying the bird cage? Maybe? kekekeIt means more of that when giant is awake DD is defeated by straw hats | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On December 12 2014 23:47 AsnSensation wrote: Valentine manipulates her weight. Vise manipulates the weight of the hugeass shield on his back Ah this makes sense. | ||
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Chro
United States240 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 13 2014 05:05 Chro wrote: One piece wiki says that its actually identical to the other fruit just a higher level of mass. Kilo kilo no mi goes from 1kg to 10kg while the super weight human fruit can only increase his weight but by tons instead of kgs. That's because the distinction we are pointing out isn't confirmed. Its very likely from looking at the panels, but it hasn't been stated explicitly. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
Oda is drawing a lot of parallels bstween this arc and alabasta. At least that's what I choose to believe and not that hes running out of ideas. | ||
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Chro
United States240 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On December 13 2014 07:37 Chro wrote: The wiki is a joint effort of alot more people and they write it out so they don't forget other things, alot more reliable than one person. They can be wrong but its a good place to check random facts. Here's him jumping on franky with just his belly (shield on back). "First you float then you smash into the ground". Another example It just seems like a stronger version of the fruit. Wouldn't say its oda not being creative, its just what the character is. In your very same example he says "my stomach hurts." Why does he say that? Miss valentine didn't say that when she plopped down. He says it because it's the shield on his back that's really heavy. He smashes the shield as well as himself onto the target. This is why he takes it off and holds it out in front of him when he's doing 10,000 ton attacks. He doesn't want to crush himself but he can pull off a 10 ton fall with minimal damage. So my theory still holds up in favor of "well it's just a stronger version of another fruit :^)" | ||
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Chro
United States240 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On December 13 2014 07:37 Chro wrote: The wiki is a joint effort of alot more people and they write it out so they don't forget other things, alot more reliable than one person. They can be wrong but its a good place to check random facts. Here's him jumping on franky with just his belly (shield on back). "First you float then you smash into the ground". Another example It just seems like a stronger version of the fruit. Wouldn't say its oda not being creative, its just what the character is. I was merely making an assumption on his powers worked to make them different from miss valentine because I think ODA is way too creative to create a ton ton fruit when he already has an kg kg fruit. Also just because opwiki (which is an amazing site) is a join effort doesn't make their "claim" more reliable than mine because they have the same facts to work with and as long as it isn't outright stated how Machvise's powers work, nobody can know. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On December 13 2014 08:20 Chro wrote: Whatever keeps your ego afloat. I have to assume he was trying to hurt him with that attack so he used his power, which didn't involve the shield. Won't get into one of those dumb forkrider arguments where you say he wasn't trying. You seem confused. Regardless of whether you have a 10 ton weight on your back or your front you still weight 10 tons more. He was still using his power, just didn't take the weight off his back. Also there's no need to insult people so relax. | ||
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