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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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OskO
Profile Joined February 2011
Argentina369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 11:54:47
March 08 2012 11:48 GMT
#3421
On March 08 2012 17:14 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:14 LaughingTulkas wrote:
So I'm going to ignore Forikorder (who's either just dumb or a troll) and go back to the theorycrafting, what roles are left to fill?

Lets sum up what we have

Captain - Luffy
1. First Mate - Zoro
2. Navigator - Nami
3. Sniper - Usopp
4. Cook - Sanji
5. Doctor - Chopper
6. Archeologist - Robin
7. Shipwright - Franky
8. Musician - Brook

In chapter one Luffy says he wants 10 people to join him, so we have at the very least two more roles to fill. I can't imagine Oda would forget what Luffy says in chapter 1. So what other roles are there?

Fishman - Jinbe

But that leaves at least one more. Some posibilites, some are dumb, some are possible, just trying to brainstorm roles on a ship as well as fighting techniques.

Giant - Many crews have a giant, could luffy find one? or could we see the return of weakyoshi with full control of her power?
Cannoneer/Grenadier - someone who uses explosives? often there was a gunpowder expert on board ship, since Usopp is all plants now, this could be open.
Scout - maybe someone with exceptional vision, and perhaps super speed but not as strong?
Spy - An expert in camouflage and gaining information in sneaky ways
Tailor - perhaps silly, but someone who works on clothes/sails etc would be unique, and give the crew free costume changes and probably some good chances for humor as well.

You can take the time to shoot them all down if you want, I probably won't care to answer though, but I'm interested to see what other people might come up with. What other roles are left?


After Jimbei I think the next crewmate will be...

A female ninja who is also a tailor and that comes from the same land that samurai guy came from.

Yes, I'm serious.

Also:
Giant - Not possible due to them not fitting on the ship
Cannoneer/Grenadier - Overlaps with Usopp and Franky
Scout - Overlaps with Usopp
Spy - Overlaps with Robin


IMO, one can argue that Giant overlaps with Monster Point. Being that the case, over time they managed to get a Giant into the crew without the hassle of him not fitting on the ship.

Edit: Also, I liked better Law's old hat.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 08 2012 12:23 GMT
#3422
While Luffy does pick people mostly based on who he likes, it's Oda who has created characters that Luffy needs and likes. Though yes jobs are no longer that important since all the essential jobs are filled hence the next crew member may have a non essential secondary job if they join if they have a "job" at all.

And there is no reason the crew needs a Logia user.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
March 08 2012 12:27 GMT
#3423
On March 08 2012 21:23 BlackMagister wrote:
While Luffy does pick people mostly based on who he likes, it's Oda who has created characters that Luffy needs and likes. Though yes jobs are no longer that important since all the essential jobs are filled hence the next crew member may have a non essential secondary job if they join if they have a "job" at all.

And there is no reason the crew needs a Logia user.


Ya no reason... still would be cool to have someone with a half decent fruit power LOL.
Lifes too short to be small.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 08 2012 23:57 GMT
#3424
On March 08 2012 21:27 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 21:23 BlackMagister wrote:
While Luffy does pick people mostly based on who he likes, it's Oda who has created characters that Luffy needs and likes. Though yes jobs are no longer that important since all the essential jobs are filled hence the next crew member may have a non essential secondary job if they join if they have a "job" at all.

And there is no reason the crew needs a Logia user.


Ya no reason... still would be cool to have someone with a half decent fruit power LOL.

Straw hat already op he doesn't need someone with a good fruit power
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
March 09 2012 00:22 GMT
#3425
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 00:23 GMT
#3426
On March 09 2012 08:57 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 21:27 Sickkiee wrote:
On March 08 2012 21:23 BlackMagister wrote:
While Luffy does pick people mostly based on who he likes, it's Oda who has created characters that Luffy needs and likes. Though yes jobs are no longer that important since all the essential jobs are filled hence the next crew member may have a non essential secondary job if they join if they have a "job" at all.

And there is no reason the crew needs a Logia user.


Ya no reason... still would be cool to have someone with a half decent fruit power LOL.

Straw hat already op he doesn't need someone with a good fruit power

i think Logia sorta goes against the SH "style" if it makes sense

generally the strawhats go into fights as the underdog and generally get pretty beat up all through the fight before managing to finish the enemy off with guts and willpower so if they did have a logia user now would be the time to introduce it since pretty much everyone from now on whould ahve Haki or some anti-logia counter measure
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 09 2012 00:29 GMT
#3427
I'm trying to remember the last time oda threw a genuine plot twist at us we weren't expecting, probably water 7? Generally he seems to just continue building his universe and giving us exactly what he wants ( :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
RedBlargh
Profile Joined July 2011
99 Posts
March 09 2012 00:41 GMT
#3428
Law is such a badass. 100 HEARTS! Any bets on Law being in possession of Luffy's heart from when he operated on Luffy in the submarine? Could be interesting :O
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 00:51:49
March 09 2012 00:50 GMT
#3429
On March 09 2012 09:41 RedBlargh wrote:
Law is such a badass. 100 HEARTS! Any bets on Law being in possession of Luffy's heart from when he operated on Luffy in the submarine? Could be interesting :O

LOL, crazy idea, but it could actually be possible with his ability.
And would be yet another reference to a movie, bitchesoda love references.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 00:57 GMT
#3430
On March 09 2012 09:41 RedBlargh wrote:
Law is such a badass. 100 HEARTS! Any bets on Law being in possession of Luffy's heart from when he operated on Luffy in the submarine? Could be interesting :O

i certainly hop that sometime in the last 3 years someone tried to feel his heartbeat

that would be hilarious, next arc could be them breaking into amrineford to get it back
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
March 09 2012 04:00 GMT
#3431
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 04:13 GMT
#3432
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 09 2012 06:09 GMT
#3433
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 06:12 GMT
#3434
On March 09 2012 15:09 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.

when his bussiness causes him to lose his arm and be severly injured and possibly killed or some other way be incapable of joinging the crew, ill say ill told you so
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 09 2012 06:15 GMT
#3435
On March 09 2012 15:12 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:09 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.

when his bussiness causes him to lose his arm and be severly injured and possibly killed or some other way be incapable of joinging the crew, ill say ill told you so

You expect Jinbe to die? Seriously?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 06:17 GMT
#3436
On March 09 2012 15:15 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:12 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:09 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.

when his bussiness causes him to lose his arm and be severly injured and possibly killed or some other way be incapable of joinging the crew, ill say ill told you so

You expect Jinbe to die? Seriously?

yup

hell die or get some big injury or for some reason cant go with them on the ship

something will either kill him or shackle him to fishman island
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 09 2012 06:19 GMT
#3437
On March 09 2012 15:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:15 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:09 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.

when his bussiness causes him to lose his arm and be severly injured and possibly killed or some other way be incapable of joinging the crew, ill say ill told you so

You expect Jinbe to die? Seriously?

yup

hell die or get some big injury or for some reason cant go with them on the ship

something will either kill him or shackle him to fishman island

So just so we are clear

You think that Jinbe is going to die

And the Samurai who showed up in the current arc is going to join the crew

Is that correct?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 06:22 GMT
#3438
On March 09 2012 15:19 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:17 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:15 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:09 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.

when his bussiness causes him to lose his arm and be severly injured and possibly killed or some other way be incapable of joinging the crew, ill say ill told you so

You expect Jinbe to die? Seriously?

yup

hell die or get some big injury or for some reason cant go with them on the ship

something will either kill him or shackle him to fishman island

So just so we are clear

You think that Jinbe is going to die

And the Samurai who showed up in the current arc is going to join the crew

Is that correct?

right, except as i just said in the very post your quoted at the very least i expect him to not go with them on there ship for some reason most likely remaining on Hishman Island and as i posted earlier in the thread it is possible he does join them and acts as there muscle on fishman island
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
March 09 2012 06:47 GMT
#3439
On March 09 2012 15:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:15 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:09 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.

when his bussiness causes him to lose his arm and be severly injured and possibly killed or some other way be incapable of joinging the crew, ill say ill told you so

You expect Jinbe to die? Seriously?

yup

hell die or get some big injury or for some reason cant go with them on the ship

something will either kill him or shackle him to fishman island

When Jinbe and Neptune talked together at the end of the last arc, Jinbe himself said that he couldn't go with the SHs yet due being one of Bigmom's subordinates, and if he stops working for her FI and the rest of the Sun pirates are going to incur her wrath. After this arc its likely that luffy will encounter Bigmom and defeat her (or whenever this ends up happening) and Jinbe will be able to either join them for the fight against Bigmom or join the crew after she falls.
To kill off a potential crew mate who has pretty much accepted an invite and fits in the crew as a helmsman and as an insurance against the weakness of ability users is a silly silly waste.
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2012 07:57 GMT
#3440
On March 09 2012 15:47 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 15:17 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:15 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:12 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 15:09 Sentenal wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 09 2012 13:00 killa_robot wrote:
On March 09 2012 09:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Why do people think that maybe later on Jimbe can join the Straw Hats? He's a pirate who's probably going to reassemble his own crew (sun pirates) and most likely become anally to the Straw Hats. All the friends they've made won't join the crew, but a large number of them will most likely support them.


Because Luffy asked him to join the crew, and he accepted? He just said he had to do some things first before he could join him.

technically he didnt accept he jsut said that luffy should ask him later doesnt mean that next time luffy asks hell be able to accept

http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/649/6

How much more clear does it need to get that Jinbe will join in the future? Luffy invited him, he said he would like to but he has things he needs to do first. Then he promises that after he takes care of stuff, he will go meet up with the Strawhats, and join the crew.

when his bussiness causes him to lose his arm and be severly injured and possibly killed or some other way be incapable of joinging the crew, ill say ill told you so

You expect Jinbe to die? Seriously?

yup

hell die or get some big injury or for some reason cant go with them on the ship

something will either kill him or shackle him to fishman island

When Jinbe and Neptune talked together at the end of the last arc, Jinbe himself said that he couldn't go with the SHs yet due being one of Bigmom's subordinates, and if he stops working for her FI and the rest of the Sun pirates are going to incur her wrath. After this arc its likely that luffy will encounter Bigmom and defeat her (or whenever this ends up happening) and Jinbe will be able to either join them for the fight against Bigmom or join the crew after she falls.
To kill off a potential crew mate who has pretty much accepted an invite and fits in the crew as a helmsman and as an insurance against the weakness of ability users is a silly silly waste.

source? im pretty sure Jimbei was never ever affiliated with Big mam since he was a Shichibukai and banned from even being on fishman island
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