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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18478 Posts
August 02 2023 18:44 GMT
#32801
Haha nice job
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
August 03 2023 02:56 GMT
#32802
So is did Vegapunk build the "mother flame" weapon or did he just create a mother flame reactor that the Gorosei used to power Uranus?

That said, it's interesting that Uranus can create holes in the ocean and that raises the sea level somehow? I wonder how many times it's been used in the past. Maybe the One Piece world's oceans are so vast and land is so hard to come by due to interference from the ancient weapons.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 03 2023 04:03 GMT
#32803
My reading is he created a one time power source using a reactor that the Gorosei need more of to keep powering their extinction machine.

Also, I question Oda's commitment to physics with this hole in ocean = rise in sea level thing.
Freeeeeeedom
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 03 2023 04:56 GMT
#32804
On August 03 2023 13:03 cLutZ wrote:
My reading is he created a one time power source using a reactor that the Gorosei need more of to keep powering their extinction machine.

Also, I question Oda's commitment to physics with this hole in ocean = rise in sea level thing.


Maybe its like extreme gravity and it pushes the landmass below the ocean.
Never Knows Best.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8713 Posts
August 03 2023 05:16 GMT
#32805
i had to go back and read what happened on egghead before the scene changed. seems like a lot has happened since, now that york is a hostage and the entire ensemble is somehow together
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria373 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-03 17:41:59
August 03 2023 17:40 GMT
#32806
Half of the chapter felt like filler, the other part had some nice stuff, but now we'll need flashbacks /again/. Should've had a smoother transition given that we haven't seen the SHs for literally 6 months or something...
And now WSJ is on break and another week without a chapter. If it wasn't for spoilers, I probably would've stopped reading until Christmas.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 03 2023 22:15 GMT
#32807
Why do we want to see flashbacks to a stomp and York being forced to tell the Seraphim to listen to Stella?
Freeeeeeedom
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria373 Posts
August 04 2023 07:06 GMT
#32808
Didn't say 'want', I don't like flashbacks at all.

It's just that a massive amount of things just happened off-screen. We'll see.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 05 2023 02:56 GMT
#32809
The only thing I need to see on egghead before the big breakthrough fight is lore dumps and tech.
Freeeeeeedom
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-09 13:36:57
August 09 2023 13:32 GMT
#32810
A couple of pages back (around the point the pirate island raid by Garp started) someone complained how inflated Garp's power is. After reading a batch of ~5-10 chapters I have to say I came to the exact opposite conclusion.

Garp is a well-known heavily explained and displayed marine hero, with accolades and a long history of fights against the most powerful of many eras. I have a hard time being surprised if he can create earth-sized holes. On the other hand when the new(?) power-ups and fruits of the Whitebeard captains were displayed first in that introductory chapter and now during the fight I thought those are some bullshit owerpowered fruits. Pica was something and now Pizarro is a whole island? That can move within the island's environment but is not the island itself? (He seem to move around buildings as well?) Jesus is even more strong than strong, the doctor's horse got a fruit and the doc got something even better fruit than Queen? I found it surprising no-one got surprised by this as much as I was.

Garp and Kuzan at least have history and progression with their respective powers/fruits.

The death of Cobra and the Nefertari-letter was very cool! I remember when I was a kid around 2000 most of my imagination was about the meaning of D. It was for me the most important mystery that got me into One piece. It's nostalgic slash uplifting to get that lore in the center of some chapters now again after 23 years.

Edit: Oh yeah and teleportation, sure. I mean it makes sense for an evil crew which is after the best fruits to gain some good fruits but their types and abilities seem to be an improvement and more generally themed than any specific fruit we encountered.
The heart's eternal vow
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 10 2023 03:25 GMT
#32811
Yeah, Garp's feats in the past more than explain his performance at Hachinosu. Battled Roger, 1 shot drill-head-guy in his prime, casually blew up mountains as a warm up.
Freeeeeeedom
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
August 13 2023 14:18 GMT
#32812
Hey the next chapter dropped very early this weekend with rough translations. (Check reddit)

+ Show Spoiler +
I find it kind of funny how Sentomaru is talking a big game against Kizaru when he was effectively one-shot by Lucci only a few chapters ago. I suppose a point in his favor is that he has known Kizaru for quite some time and is therefore more prepared to deal with his powers. Also Kizaru will probably hold back against Sentomaru since they've been family for so long. Still, I don't except Broad Axe to last very long.

I don't know how much longer this arc will last since the Straw Hats just need to activate their mecha to fly away, however, Oda has shown the ability to stretch out chase sequences considerably before. Anyone remember how Big Mom ran after the Straw Hats shouting "Wedding Cake" for 30 chapters? Therefore, I predict an equally drawn out 30 chapters of fighting on egghead. Here's how I think it'll play out:
  • Luffy will fight Kizaru and defeat him
  • Vice admirals will fight the Straw Hats and get completely annihilated
  • Mars will make his move and order all of the Seraphim to attack the Straw Hats
  • Straw Hats will defeat the Seraphim and escape
  • Saturn will either get taken prisoner or fall into the ocean or meet some other terrible fate
  • The world government will freak the fuck out and label Luffy as public enemy #1, raising his bounty to Roger's level
  • Morgans will publish all of this in his next article and Luffy will become deified as god of liberation (second coming of Nika)

Thoughts? We'll see how many I get right...
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 13 2023 20:59 GMT
#32813
+ Show Spoiler +
A blackbeard ship also arrived at Egghead's shores some chapters ago, that will definitely play a role as well.
The heart's eternal vow
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
539 Posts
August 13 2023 21:29 GMT
#32814
real question is

+ Show Spoiler +

does vegapunk survive? if not then how many of his entities like York or the big record of his knowledge survive?
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 14 2023 03:13 GMT
#32815
+ Show Spoiler +
I still think the ultimate question is of the PX-3s and the Sepharim. I don't think Vegapunk can ethically let the government have and keep them, so if there is any hint of a Gorosei around either (A) the command structure is not how they think, or (B) he's got to permanently take them offline.
Freeeeeeedom
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 14 2023 08:24 GMT
#32816
On August 14 2023 12:13 cLutZ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I still think the ultimate question is of the PX-3s and the Sepharim. I don't think Vegapunk can ethically let the government have and keep them, so if there is any hint of a Gorosei around either (A) the command structure is not how they think, or (B) he's got to permanently take them offline.

+ Show Spoiler +
I guess it depends whether this sub-plot is an Astro boy story or a Gundam story.
The heart's eternal vow
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
August 18 2023 03:16 GMT
#32817
Now that a better translation is out, the conversation between Saturn and Kizaru has been recontextualized. Earlier it seemed like Kizaru basically said "No, I'm doing this my way", and now it's more along the lines of "Please let me do this my way." You might think this is a minor difference but it's important in establishing Kizaru as a loyal middle manager. He's not going to disobey direct orders and let the Straw Hats go like Fujitora did in Dressrosa or Aokiji did in Water 7. This is a fight Luffy absolutely has to win. There will be no talk no jutsu this time. Now, that's not to say some bullshit can't come out if left field to interrupt the fight, but I'm still thinking that this is the arc we'll finally see an Admiral go down.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8713 Posts
August 18 2023 07:32 GMT
#32818
waited to see the official release rather than early translations.
firstly i thought the hancock thing was pretty clever. a very oda way of getting the situation handled.

as for what happens, all i can say is i dont think a huge fight will break out with kizaru going down. seeing as there are a whole bunch of ohara's records in elbaf too, i expect vegapunk to make the escape with the strawhats so that we get another huge lore dump in elbaf.

therell probably be some casualties for a few side characters or something, or maybe the appearance of one of blackbeards crew will force kizaru back to protect saturn, but at the end of the day i think the strawhats will escape on sunny and egghead will come to a close.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria373 Posts
August 18 2023 15:04 GMT
#32819
BB after Kizaru's fruit, you heard it here first. SHs aren't the targets, the Marines are.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18478 Posts
August 19 2023 06:12 GMT
#32820
On August 19 2023 00:04 Nirli wrote:
BB after Kizaru's fruit, you heard it here first. SHs aren't the targets, the Marines are.


That would be so sick
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