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On June 23 2023 07:43 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't understand why anyone is even bothering to talk about this live action adaptation. Sometimes I feel like the internet is an abused housewife that just keeps coming back to her husband no matter how much he beats her.
I feel like its more like watching Nascar and kinda hoping to see a wreck.
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United States97276 Posts
On one hand though it’ll help us understand people in the verse’s eye popping reaction to seeing Luffy’s stretching in action because it’s def going to look bizarre in live action. Buggy’s fruit will too.
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The Buggy design choice is IMO just bad. He's comic relief, not IT.
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I thought the Japanese Death Note live action was decent. And the Phoenix Wright one was a very fun bad movie.
Overall I expected this to be terrible considering how unrealistic everything in OP is, but seeing the places and ships was kinda nice.
Also Buggy starts out as a threat and mainly becomes comic relief after. But that first fight against him was fairly rough for Luffy.
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On April 20 2023 20:05 Hyperbola wrote:
Things aren't looking good for Garp here. Aokiji is more than a match for him. Couple that with the rest of the Blackbeard crew and I think this will turn out to be Garp's Marineford moment. I can see Shiryu turning invisible and stabbing him in the back to leave an opening for Aokiji to throw the knock out punch.
Shiryu is a one trick pony. But hey, if it keeps working, why stop doing it?
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On July 13 2023 07:10 cLutZ wrote:
Garp-Kuzan hype growing.
You have a habit of raising enemies hype hype hype
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Aokiji is such an enigma to me. He makes no sense. This is a guy who was in the running for fleet admiral (aka the most powerful position in the OP world) and is now playing small fry with Blackbeard's butt buddies. He could absolutely annihilate everyone in Blackbeard's crew and could maybe even defeat Teach himself. What on earth is he hoping to achieve in his position? To find One Piece and then stab Teach in the back last minute? Is he a deep cover agent for sword? I certainly hope so because otherwise he just looks pathetic.
If he's a double agent then this fight would also make a lot more sense since he's definitely holding back against Garp. Just enough to demonstrate "loyalty" to teach but not enough to kill Garp and massacre all of his subordinates.
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On July 14 2023 03:12 Hyperbola wrote:
Aokiji is such an enigma to me. He makes no sense. This is a guy who was in the running for fleet admiral (aka the most powerful position in the OP world).
Definitely not true in 2023.
Also, can an Admiral defeat a Yonko?
I'd say we haven't seen much from BB and while Aokiji has a powerful fruit, can they go head to head?
Truly the questions we'd expect from a shonen, so...
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No way Kuzan would flip to a heel, he has some noble objective instead of just suddenly enjoying piracy. It would be cool to see him turn evil, but then again this is One Piece.
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On July 14 2023 23:41 Nirli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2023 03:12 Hyperbola wrote:
Aokiji is such an enigma to me. He makes no sense. This is a guy who was in the running for fleet admiral (aka the most powerful position in the OP world). Definitely not true in 2023. Also, can an Admiral defeat a Yonko? I'd say we haven't seen much from BB and while Aokiji has a powerful fruit, can they go head to head? Truly the questions we'd expect from a shonen, so...
Any Admiral probably not, one of the two strongest? Probably has a good shot.
I agree that his motivation doesn't really make sense to me, even after the flashback.
Also death flags for Garp everywhere.
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Damn, even though I was already expecting it, Garp's sendoff hit me right in the gut.
He's obviously not dead. Declared "MIA" by the narrator and Aokiji freezing his chest wound basically confirms he'll remain alive. But still, when a legendary character like him sacrifices himself to pass the torch to the next generation it's always an epic moment. Glad to see that Oda's still got it.
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How bout that Koby hype as well? Dude is clearly already high tier vice admiral strength.
Also, what was that final shot for Garp 5v1 Commanders vs. Garp? I'd like his odds if it was any commander but Kuzan in that position. IMO the evidence is pretty good he and Sakazuki had huge level ups during their duel.
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could probably use a spoiler tag if youre this early
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Tbh I kinda hope Garp's dead. Luffy has a long ongoing fairly complex but often hostile relationship with Kuzan and I kinda want to see their grudge match, especially if Kuzan turned evil. Would also be cool to see him and Koby team up against Kuzan, although at this point Luffy may just be enough to solo him. It's still difficult to rate both Luffy and Kuzan, both may be stronger than BB by now.
That being said I strongly doubt it, both because he's depicted as a morally complex and conflicted character and because of the way it ended was somewhat open. So I'm kinda expecting a rescue arc in the middle of the upcoming Blackbeard conflict and Kuzan switching sides.
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i dont think theres anyway garp is dead, the most obvious indicator being him "mia" rather than explicitly dead. i think overall garp had to be used as a plot device in order to justify strawhats vs bb in the future. with im's increasing presence in the story its become clear that the final boss is more likely im rather than blackbeard, meaning luffys reason to fight blackbeard is diminished. obviously theres still the fact that blackbeard caused ace to be captured and such, but theres not a lot of blatant animosity between the 2 characters other than that at the moment.
as for aokiji i dont think hes evil at all. to me it seems pretty clear that hes become disenchanted with the marines and has now found his own goal or purpose, whatever that may be. his association with the blackbeard pirates are simply a means to an end and his fight with garp takes place because for the time being, he requires his association to blackbeard more than whatever utility garp provides him through their past relationship. hes ice cold, but hes not evil imo. i dont expect him to be a villain figure for the remainder of the story because i dont think whatever his end goal is, that goal is inherently wicked.
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Austria24417 Posts
Don't think there's any need for further SHs vs BB setup after he captured Ace to get him executed. Also just his status as a yonko automatically puts him in Luffy's way.
I don't think Aokiji is evil either. There's too much setup here with Garp being the head of Sword, a unit that officially goes rogue but still works for the marines, and Aokiji being his disciple. At the end of this, Garp's unit has escaped with Coby (whom they set out to rescue) and he himself is KO'd with a power we know doesn't automatically kill people. Everyone else there would have outright killed Garp, but Kuzan still "defeated" him, preserving his cover as a member of BB's crew.
If Kuzan is an undercover Sword agent infiltrating the BB pirates, he's done some outstanding work here.
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Garp is so strong its crazy - who else could solo BB crewmates and fleet admiral level kuzan at the same time and not be KOed instantly
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On July 24 2023 17:54 Olli wrote:
Don't think there's any need for further SHs vs BB setup after he captured Ace to get him executed. Also just his status as a yonko automatically puts him in Luffy's way.
I don't think Aokiji is evil either. There's too much setup here with Garp being the head of Sword, a unit that officially goes rogue but still works for the marines, and Aokiji being his disciple. At the end of this, Garp's unit has escaped with Coby (whom they set out to rescue) and he himself is KO'd with a power we know doesn't automatically kill people. Everyone else there would have outright killed Garp, but Kuzan still "defeated" him, preserving his cover as a member of BB's crew.
If Kuzan is an undercover Sword agent infiltrating the BB pirates, he's done some outstanding work here.
on the flipside it would be an interesting thing if it turns out he had wholeheartedly defected due to Blackbeard's charisma and overall philosophy managing to win over Aokiji
there's a lot of obvious and a lot of subtle parallels between Luffy and Blackbeard so I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case (could be wrong tho)
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One interesting thing about Luffy that contrasts with Goku and Naruto is lack of former enemies as new longer-term allies. Robin kinda counts, but he never fought Miss All Sunday and she wasn't ever really on Crocodile s side
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