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evilfatsh1t
Australia8881 Posts
aokiji will probably defect when the situation suits him. as for cross guild, i think this plotline is only mildly interesting because of mihawk and crocodile also. tbh i dont really see the significance of having this party become another factor in the search for one piece atm. what usage is there for this party as a plot device that other characters cannot already fulfil? | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On April 28 2023 16:25 evilfatsh1t wrote: as for cross guild, i think this plotline is only mildly interesting because of mihawk and crocodile also. tbh i dont really see the significance of having this party become another factor in the search for one piece atm. what usage is there for this party as a plot device that other characters cannot already fulfil? Oda needs to find a way to set up Zoro vs Mihawk. I think that's the only reason this is being written. Crocodile isn't interesting either, he's not a serious antagonist at this point and the character offers little we haven't yet explored. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
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CHEONSOYUN
605 Posts
imo this was one of the most memorable chapters in a long time because it really highlights just how powerful the central theme is in the story. Mihawk and Crocodile, two of the most powerful characters in the world/story if you look carefully are pissed that they're rightfully called out by Buggy as being jaded (losers) and unable to have big ambitions anymore; they recognized immediately how powerful and moving that common dream is. Even Buggy's crew of the worst criminals are taken aback by Buggy announcing he wants to obtain the One Piece. When you look at Blackbeard and Aokiji there's a very telling line where Blackbeard explains that none of their crew has any motivation to help each other achieve their own dreams. They're all only there because it meets their incentives; it's a great continuing contrast between Luffy and Blackbeard where they have a lot in common but very important differences in how they view the world. | ||
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
On April 20 2023 15:47 evilfatsh1t wrote: did you guys not see the latest chapter before you made your posts? seems pretty obvious what happened to law. im more curious who this new character mention is and why blackbeards ship is approaching egghead if neither aokiji or blackbeard are on it. the most obvious answer for the man marked by flames imo is dragon, but im not sure theres enough evidence for that. for starters i dont recall dragon having a completely black ship. also turns out this wasnt the first time the "man marked by flames" was mentioned. the last time was almost 30 chapters ago but it was a literal name drop only. Great, just found out I've been one chapter behind for a few weeks  Idk why Buggy would be a contender for One Piece, since he doesn't have any Poneglyphs. He would have to beat some sick crews to just get his hands on some scrolls. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 29 2023 03:21 herMan wrote: Great, just found out I've been one chapter behind for a few weeks Idk why Buggy would be a contender for One Piece, since he doesn't have any Poneglyphs. He would have to beat some sick crews to just get his hands on some scrolls. He’s the king of falling up due to his accidental charisma | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 28 2023 09:50 Zambrah wrote: Wasn’t he after Captain Johns treasure who I believed was revealed as a member of the Rocks pirates? That was the thing he got from Luffy in Impel Down. On April 29 2023 00:06 Hyperbola wrote: I don't get why the Cross Guild is perceived as such a threat. Crocodile is not that powerful of a fighter and Mihawk can barely muster up the motivation to get up in the morning. Now, if the Cross Guild started recruiting other former Shichibukai like Hancock, Law, or Moria, then I could see them growing as an actual force worthy of the "Emperor" title. Cross Guild is hyped by the world because no one besides Luffy/Zoro/Nami knows that Buggy is weak, so it looks like (with Mihawks bounty) a double-yonko yonko crew. All they know about Buggy is he was the co-leader of the Impel Down escape, now commands the majority of those escapees, sailed with Roger, and got into a public shouting match with Shanks. Dude looks like a beast, and looking like a beast is all that matters until he has to actually fight someone, which he never does. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 30 2023 07:57 Zambrah wrote: Wasnt the armband a map or clue or something and not actually Captain John's treasure? iirc buggy had a physical map and the arm band was needed to read/decode it | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
I think its kind of a great line to tie in Buggy through, someone else brought up the last poneglyph, if Captain John's treasure included poneglyph rubbing that'd be pretty sweet and lines up Buggy to pursue One Piece given hes already spent a bunch of time chasing this treasure and really should be fairly close to acquiring it by now lol. He'll probably stumble on due to his idiot's luck though, which would also be amusing. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
I could get onboard a luck roller thingy, but Buggy is not that. He gets smashed anytime anyone tries. Its not like Luffy shoved him to a diamond mine and then he stumbled upon a laser factory. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
That said, I'm super excited about seeing what happened between Cobra and the Gorosei. Maybe even Imu makes a cameo. The next chapter is probably going to be amazing. | ||
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
On May 07 2023 16:05 cLutZ wrote: I am consistently confused by peoples embrace of the "Boring Tale of Buggy". He sucks. He loses. He loses again. He gets lucky a few times. I could get onboard a luck roller thingy, but Buggy is not that. He gets smashed anytime anyone tries. Its not like Luffy shoved him to a diamond mine and then he stumbled upon a laser factory. I'm guessing that in this world of big shots and hardasses most guys are just regular joes, and Buggy certainly is one of them, making him relatable. Personally I see Buggy and his ambitions as a fresh vehicle to move the plot forward; like someone posted here earlier, I think he's the one to indirectly set up Zoro vs. Mihawk. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On May 10 2023 23:50 Hyperbola wrote: Looks like Oda is introducing more powerful characters last minute again. Nine holy knights? I really hope they're not as powerful as Admirals. Otherwise, they'd really cheapen the existing characters. That said, I'm super excited about seeing what happened between Cobra and the Gorosei. Maybe even Imu makes a cameo. The next chapter is probably going to be amazing. Idk tbh the WG faction kinda needed some bigger hitters with how stacked the pirates and RA are getting. Who knows how powerful they end up but makes sense the Gorosei would have some heavy hitters in reserve for their personal use. I thought that role was going to be CP0 but none of them seem to be that special. I read they got name dropped quite a while back too in some throw away line. Realistically the Vice Admirals besides Garp are fodder. WG power is pretty heavily concentrated in very few people so if Oda wants to start a global conflict the WG will need more just to have a relevant threat at different places. Especially if Egghead goes poorly for them so they don't get their clone toys to use. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On May 11 2023 04:52 Slaughter wrote: Idk tbh the WG faction kinda needed some bigger hitters with how stacked the pirates and RA are getting. Who knows how powerful they end up but makes sense the Gorosei would have some heavy hitters in reserve for their personal use. I thought that role was going to be CP0 but none of them seem to be that special. I read they got name dropped quite a while back too in some throw away line. Realistically the Vice Admirals besides Garp are fodder. WG power is pretty heavily concentrated in very few people so if Oda wants to start a global conflict the WG will need more just to have a relevant threat at different places. Especially if Egghead goes poorly for them so they don't get their clone toys to use. The Marines are the heavy hitters of the World Government. They're both part of the same government. The Marines just happen to be the military branch of that government. As you said, it makes sense for CP0 to be the "heavy hitters" of the WG since they're basically the CIA. But doesn't really make sense for there to be 9 random super powerful fighters that act as a defacto military. Either they should already be part of the Marines or they should be PMCs and Mercenaries that perform wet work for the world nobles (aka the Shichibukai and CP0). To come out of left field and create an entirely new faction from thin air is just bad writing. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8881 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
Maybe not because none of the CP's showed but just weird to introduce a new top tier this late in the game. 9/10 that ends poorly. We shall see. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8881 Posts
the revolutionaries are the usual enemy to the wg forces, like the pirates are to the navy imo. | ||
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